Alperen Sengun thread!

[Toruko]

Sengun putting it together offensively. At that side of the court he will be brilliant. But it's interesting how much tougher he can get. Sabonis pushes him out of his way too easily. Nevertheless, huge talent offensively:

https://twitter.com/BradeauxNBA/stat...53932867604480

He has his weaknesses and strengths defensively but it is also mostly carelessness. To gain his full strength he will need 2-3 years which is totally ok and normal.

[Straight forward]

Sengun putting it together offensively. At that side of the court he will be brilliant. But it's interesting how much tougher he can get. Sabonis pushes him out of his way too easily. Nevertheless, huge talent offensively:

https://twitter.com/BradeauxNBA/status/1615353932867604480

[Toruko]

Alperen Sengun did it! His first triple double with 10 points 10 rebounds and 10 assists and 1 steal against Sacramento. May more be following...

[SaliH]

Bruh, that play was absolutely NASTY! Too bad that the refs called it as an offensive foul, especially considering that in 99% of the cases they don't do that.

It is very frustrating how in absolutely every game the refs make such dumb calls against Alpi.

[Toruko]

Dunk of the year with being 20.

[Straight forward]

Sengun is the hybrid of 4 players: D. Sabonis, Jokic, D. Motiejunas (NBA version), L.Scola.

[Toruko]

Sengun with a monstrous game against OKC which drafted and gave him away. In any ordinary team he would have his first triple double and this without using him as a hub like Sabonis or Jokic. He is really hard to stop on 1 vs 1 and he is heavily respected in the low post. He gets doubled nearly every time nevertheless his true shooting percentage is amazing.

He had 21 points, 19 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

[Toruko]

It appears Senguns season average will be like around 20 points, 10 rebounds and 3-4 assists but he is very stable with his stats. There are no jumping stats like the one of Cedi Osman for example. His only lack in the offense is his outside shot from the 3p-line but it will come around too in a couple years.

[Toruko]

Seng?n with one of the best games in his career against the Clippers establishing himself in the NBA with 26 points (8/13) from the field and 10/11 from the ft line with 13 rebounds 2 assists and 1 steal in 30 minutes. Elite low post creator for himself and others. Looks way more fluent and stronger showing very good instincts grabbing offensive rebounds.

[Toruko]

I will say this - Bona + Berke is the frontline that I would like to have for LTU NT in the future (potentially one of the best D frontlines in Europe).

This will be the line up if we have to defend the last possession

Sengun is a nice contributor if not forced to be a leader.

Sengun is one of the top 3 player of an NBA team and a candidate for an allstar in 2 years with being newly 20 year old. The Turkish NT will be his team. Idk what kind of standards you have but he is gonna dominate European tournaments in future.

His kind of players should be spending time on the bench down the stretch and there's huge issues in the backcourt. You have good role players as guards, but no pieces needed for winning. If you will somehow get perimeter stud/star then you have a team, but at this department there no much room for optimism.

There is more than enough quality to be competitive for European top level.

Nothing new these days - Sengun, Bona, Berke are great big prospects, but no perimeter prospects of premium level.

Osman, Korkmaz, Bitim (in the future) are more than enough for European standards and with a big rotation Sengun, Bona, Berke and Yurtseven its a top European team. In addition very good role pieces who will grow in the following years.

So you see I am not that pessimistic but time will tell.

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I will say this - Bona + Berke is the frontline that I would like to have for LTU NT in the future (potentially one of the best D frontlines in Europe). Sengun is a nice contributor if not forced to be a leader. His kind of players should be spending time on the bench down the stretch and there's huge issues in the backcourt. You have good role players as guards, but no pieces needed for winning. If you will somehow get perimeter stud/star then you have a team, but at this department there no much room for optimism. Besides Turkey never had many good guards, that's one of the main attributes of your school. Nothing new these days - Sengun, Bona, Berke are great big prospects, but no perimeter prospects of premium level.

[Toruko]

In my opinion that's the recipe for disaster Not that I have intentions to spoil anyone's enthusiasm. Game finisher should have at least 2 treats: ball handler, can shoot. Sengun doesn't have either. Bigs do not close games, specially in FIBA, but in NBA generally also.

Thats why we hope Sengun developing. Its clear Korkmaz and Osman have no room for finishing games in the NBA and thats a big problem and right now Sengun has the room for it. So far for offense but the real problem of the Turkish team is on the other side. Stops in the defense... If we can solve the defensive problem and we will the following tournaments the Turkish teams will be very competitive.

Korkmaz, Osman thus far haven't been able to carry Turkey and they are not getting much better or any younger. You need true pieces at perimeter, leader, game closer. Larkin has not been the answer too and it won't be in 2025 as well as it seems to be most realistic next stop for Turkey. You need very obvious perimeter piece, but there's no such. My prediction that you will be naturalizing other American guard for 2025.

This is true Korkmaz and Osman are not able to do it by themselves but they still are very valuable pieces with being 27 (Osman) and 25 (Korkmaz) year old.

In addition that there are guys with those ages.

Osmani 98, Omer Yurt7 98 ,Hazer 99, Bitim 99, Kabaca 00, Sengun 02, Bona 03, Buyuktuncel 04. These guys can have right now have an impact on the game right now on NT level. The Turkish NT was and will be one of the youngest NTs in Europe.

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For Europe Korkmaz and Osman are more than enough. True they have no superstar upsides but if they were in Europe they would be top 2-3 players in top European teams. Decision making is surely a problem but making decisions lead to scoring. We have a talented enough team to deliver points how smart it gets doesnt matter. What we dont have is a good defense and with Bona and Berke this will change too.

We need just one player on the offense who can finish games and this will hopefully be Sengun, this is what we all hope.

In my opinion that's the recipe for disaster Not that I have intentions to spoil anyone's enthusiasm. Game finisher should have at least 2 traits: ball handler, can shoot. Sengun doesn't have either. Bigs do not close games, specially in FIBA, but in NBA generally also.

Korkmaz, Osman thus far haven't been able to carry Turkey and they are not getting much better or any younger. You need true pieces at perimeter, leader, game closer. Larkin has not been the answer too and it won't be in 2025 as well as it seems to be most realistic next stop for Turkey. You need very obvious perimeter piece, but there's no such. My prediction that you will be naturalizing other American guard for 2025.

Maybe Korkmaz though...Still 25yo surprisingly...

[Toruko]

Playmaking is not about scoring It's about pace control, decision making, IQ, facilitating. I agree that Bona + Berke can be great potentially if you will find some real studs of perimeter. But there's no such guys in the horizon. No guys with star potential as it seems now.

For Europe Korkmaz and Osman are more than enough. True they have no superstar upsides but if they were in Europe they would be top 2-3 players in top European teams. Decision making is surely a problem but making decisions lead to scoring. We have a talented enough team to deliver points how smart it gets doesnt matter. What we dont have is a good defense and with Bona and Berke this will change too.

We need just one player on the offense who can finish games and this will hopefully be Sengun, this is what we all hope.

[Straight forward]

Seng?n might not be a natural shooter but he is developing a reliable jumper. Mehmet Okur was also without a reliable jumper when he entered the NBA and he became one of the best shooting bigs in the league. Seng?n has a very soft touch and showed serious development in creating mid range jumper in Eurobasket and his outside shot look also much better in the NBA comparing to last season. We dont need him to be the next Curry. He just needs to be respected from outside so that he can utilize his great face up game too.

If not there are multiple alternatives. We have 3-4 shooting fours in development who have been taking serious roles in their teams. Play maker position is a problem but scoring was never a problem of a Turkish team. What we need is defense and we couldnt have a better guys with Bona and B?y?ktuncel.

Playmaking is not about scoring It's about pace control, decision making, IQ, facilitating. I agree that Bona + Berke can be great potentially if you will find some real studs of perimeter. But there's no such guys in the horizon. No guys with star potential as it seems now.