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    Adem Bona started balling only 1,5 years ago, yet the development he has been showing in this short span of time is impressive. His physical frame is already promising and he is learning so fast. He has so many deficiencies in his game, but if he continues to work like this and keeps on relying on his weaknesses as he has been doing so far then he can be a very interesting player. Great work ethic. Great potential.

    I swear when I first saw this guy 1,5 years ago he was not able to dribble even a little bit. And now see this...

    Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
    Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

  • #2
    Originally posted by slice me nice View Post
    Adem Bona started balling only 1,5 years ago, yet the development he has been showing in this short span of time is impressive. His physical frame is already promising and he is learning so fast. He has so many deficiencies in his game, but if he continues to work like this and keeps on relying on his weaknesses as he has been doing so far then he can be a very interesting player. Great work ethic. Great potential.

    I swear when I first saw this guy 1,5 years ago he was not able to dribble even a little bit. And now see this...

    https://twitter.com/FIBA/status/1156932536666169344


    This is his first nt game after having one year personal bb training. Actually his first game in Turkey.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by slice me nice View Post
      Adem Bona started balling only 1,5 years ago, yet the development he has been showing in this short span of time is impressive. His physical frame is already promising and he is learning so fast. He has so many deficiencies in his game, but if he continues to work like this and keeps on relying on his weaknesses as he has been doing so far then he can be a very interesting player. Great work ethic. Great potential.

      I swear when I first saw this guy 1,5 years ago he was not able to dribble even a little bit. And now see this...

      https://twitter.com/FIBA/status/1156932536666169344
      indeed, Slice. What is his story? is he really born in 2003? How did he end up in Turkey?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Toruko View Post


        This is his first nt game after having one year personal bb training. Actually his first game in Turkey.
        Yes. I watched this game in hall
        Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
        Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

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        • #5
          Originally posted by slice me nice View Post
          Adem Bona started balling only 1,5 years ago, yet the development he has been showing in this short span of time is impressive. His physical frame is already promising and he is learning so fast. He has so many deficiencies in his game, but if he continues to work like this and keeps on relying on his weaknesses as he has been doing so far then he can be a very interesting player. Great work ethic. Great potential.

          I swear when I first saw this guy 1,5 years ago he was not able to dribble even a little bit. And now see this...

          https://twitter.com/FIBA/status/1156932536666169344
          He is listed as 2003 born. Is it true tho?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
            indeed, Slice. What is his story? is he really born in 2003? How did he end up in Turkey?
            http://www.basketfaul.com/haber?haber=73776

            http://basketfaul.com/haber?haber=79769

            I think Turkish wont be a problem for you.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by saritasbora View Post
              He is listed as 2003 born. Is it true tho?
              Look at his childish face and you know its true. If hes older then not more than a couple month.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Toruko View Post
                http://www.basketfaul.com/haber?haber=73776

                Ekpe Udoh'un yakın k÷ylŘsŘ Adem Bona - BasketFaul.com - turkiyenin basketbol portali


                I think Turkish wont be a problem for you.
                haha, thanks.
                When I go to Turkey, though, the first a couple of hours, people hearing me talk look at me weird... not the pronunciation or choice words, about which I'm picky, but the broken flow of speech... but then everything gets back to normal quickly.
                Last edited by Levenspiel; 08-02-2019, 08:22 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                  indeed, Slice. What is his story? is he really born in 2003? How did he end up in Turkey?
                  A Turkish coach who was working in Kuwait meets a African coach there. The African coach gets him to watch Bona's clips. The Turkish coach likes him and offers him to a basketball agent. Then he ends up in Turkey and starts to play for our Regional League.

                  You can never be 100% sure if he is '03 born or not. But he seems like that. The face is so childish so does his behaviors.
                  Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
                  Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

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                  • #10
                    Eurosport TŘrkiye ekibinden Kuzey Kılıš, FIBA U18 Avrupa Şampiyonası'nda TŘrkiye’yi başarıyla temsil eden Adem Bona’nın oyun ÷zelliklerini kaleme aldı.


                    16 yaşındaki dev: Adem Bona

                    Eurosport T├╝rkiye ekibinden Kuzey Kılı├ž, FIBA U18 Avrupa Şampiyonası'nda T├╝rkiye’yi başarıyla temsil eden Adem Bona’nın oyun ├Âzelliklerini kaleme aldı.

                    Devşirme konusu T├╝rkiye i├žin daima bir ikilem yaratır. Başarılı olunan durumlarda, "Bu başarıda bir de T├╝rk olmayan vardı." deriz. Başarının gelmediği durumlarda ise, "Onu devşirme yoluyla almayıp kendi oyuncularımızla devam etseydik en azından denemiş olurduk." deriz. 2003 doğumlu Adem Bona, bu deme├žlere şimdiden yakalanmış gibi g├Âr├╝n├╝yor. Zira gen├ž oyuncu FIBA U18 Avrupa Şampiyonası'nda sergilediği performansla birlikte, ESPN'den The Stepien'e kadar hemen hemen b├╝t├╝n scout d├╝nyasının ilgisini topladı.

                    K├╝nye
                    Doğum tarihi: 28 Mart 2003
                    Uyruk: Nijerya
                    Takım: Pınar Karşıyaka
                    Boy: 205 cm
                    Kilo: 95 kg
                    Pozisyon: Uzun forvet
                    Onu ├Âne ├žıkaran ├Âzelliği: Atletizm
                    En ├žok geliştirmesi gereken ├Âzelliği: Şut

                    2018-2019 sezonunda Basketbol Gen├žler Ligi’ndeki istatistikleri
                    Oynadığı ma├ž sayısı: 26
                    S├╝re ortalaması: 23,1
                    Sayı ortalaması: 9,3
                    Ribaund ortalaması: 7,3
                    Asist ortalaması: 1,3
                    İsabetli şut y├╝zdesi: %55,3
                    İsabetli serbest atış y├╝zdesi: %55,2
                    Blok ortalaması: 2,4
                    Top ├žalma ortalaması: 0,6
                    Top kaybı ortalaması: 2,3

                    Atletizm
                    Adem Bona hen├╝z 16 yaşındaki bir oyuncuya g├Âre inanılmaz -bununla birlikte kariyerinin ilerleyen d├Ânemlerinde geliştirmesi gereken- fiziksel ├Âzelliklere sahip. 205 santimetrelik boyunun yanı sıra kanat a├žıklığı 217 santimetre olan Adem, bu ├Âzelliğini atletizm zek├ósıyla entegre ederek g├Âze hoş gelen bir oyun sergiliyor. Hem tepeden hem de forvetlerden topu alıp kendi pozisyonunu yaratabiliyor, yani potaya penetre ederek skor ├╝retebiliyor.

                    Adem kendi pozisyonunu yaratma konusunda başarılı ama bu konuda biraz sınırlı. Aslında kreatif ├╝retim konusunda elit seviyede olmasına gerek yok, zira boyalı alana g├Âm├╝l├╝ kaldığı zaman ├žok daha etkili. Potanın iki adımlık ├ževresinde etkin bitirici ├Âzelliğe sahip olan uzun forvet, ├Âzellikle dipten yaptığı topsuz katın ardından pozisyonu harika sma├žlarla bitirebiliyor. Klasik tepe pick&roll oyununda ise i├žeriye tam zamanında devrilerek potayla arasındaki mesafeyi sma├ž, turnike veya yakın mesafe şuta kadar kısaltıyor. Tabii bazı pozisyonları alley-oop’la bitirdiğini s├Âyleyebiliriz.

                    H├╝cum silahları
                    ├ť├ž sayılık atışlarda b├╝y├╝k sıkıntı yaşıyor. Orta mesafe şutlarda ise ├žok y├╝ksek bir isabet y├╝zdesine sahip değil ancak gelecek adına ├╝mit vadediyor. Yani şut mekanizması geliştirilebilir.

                    Set h├╝cumlarında topsuz alana perdeler g├Ât├╝rerek takımdaki kısalara şut pozisyonu yaratabiliyor. Aslında bu ├Âzelliğe ├žoğu uzunda rastlayabiliriz ancak Adem Bona’nın hen├╝z 16 yaşında olduğunu ve patlayıcı atletizm tehdidi nedeniyle kendisini savunan oyuncunun ikili yardıma gitmesini engellediğini s├Âylemekte fayda var. Normalde topsuz alanda perde yapan bir uzun, kendisini savunan oyuncunun bir adım ├Ân├╝ne ge├žer; ├ž├╝nk├╝ perdeyi alan kısa, rakip uzunun g├Âr├╝ş alanına girmiştir. Eğer Adem ortalama bir atletik yapıya sahip olsaydı kısaya ikili baskının gittiğini g├Ârebilirdik, ancak o inanılmaz bir atletizm ├Âzelliği barındırıyor. Risk edilemez. Gen├ž yıldız adayı kariyerinin ilerleyen yıllarında ├╝├ž sayılık atışlarını en azından %30 civarlarına ├žıkarabilirse pick&pop oyunlarında yaratacağı tehditle de g├╝n├╝m├╝z basketbolunun aradığı bir numaralı isimlerden birisi olacaktır.

                    Savunma
                    Muazzam bir savunma yeteneğine sahip. Perimetre, adam değişimi, alan savunması veya bire bir... Adem, savunmanın b├╝t├╝n departmanlarında takımın bir numaralı ismi. Normalde onun kadar atletik olan bir uzunun, kısaların hızı ve deliciliği karşısında yavaş kalması doğaldır. Ancak bu durum Adem i├žin ge├žerli değil. S├╝rekli ├žalışır durumda olan motoru ve geniş kanat a├žıklığıyla kısalar karşısında bir duvar gibi kalabiliyor. Hızlı elleriyle birka├ž adımlık mesafeyi kontrol edebiliyor. Ayak koordinasyonu ve pozisyon okuma becerileri ├╝st d├╝zey.

                    Bire bir savunduğu uzunlar karşısında da etkili bir savunma performansı sergileyen Adem, ├Âzellikle post’ta rakiplerine adeta nefes aldırmıyor. Temastan ka├žınmıyor ve rakibini bunaltarak onu hataya s├╝r├╝kl├╝yor. B├╝t├╝n bunları yaparken faul almaktan olabildiğince ka├žınması ├žok ├Ânemli bir ├Âzellik. Blok yapmak ise Adem i├žin bir rutin. Pozisyon okuma becerisini fiziksel ├Âzelliğiyle birleştirerek birka├ž adım geriden gelip muazzam zamanlamayla birlikte blok yapıyor.

                    Ribaund ve asist
                    Adem, bir uzundan beklenen ribaund performansının ne azını ne de ├žoğunu sergiliyor. H├╝cum ribaundlarında etkili değil; elit bir uzun olmak istiyorsa bunu geliştirmeli. Savunma ribaundlarındaysa fazla hata yaptığını g├Ârmek zor. Pas ve asist, kanat a├žıklığının kendisine getirdiği artılardan bir diğeri. G├Âr├╝ş alanı ├žok geniş olmasa da pozisyonu bitiremeyeceğini anladığında dışarıya paslar ├žıkararak takımı adına alan a├žıyor. Set h├╝cumlarında pick sonrası topla buluşup bazen boyalı alana paslar g├Ânderebiliyor. Basketbol zekası ger├žekten de b├╝y├╝leyici.

                    Hen├╝z 16 yaşında
                    Adem Bona’nın hen├╝z 16 yaşında olduğunu unutmamak gerekiyor. Şu ana dek g├Âsterdiği performans onu geleceğin en iyi uzun adaylarından birisi h├óline getirdi. Tabii ├žok gen├ž olduğu i├žin kariyerinin ilerleyen d├Ânemlerinde şutlarının daha iyi olduğu, top h├ókimiyetinin ve h├╝cum ribaundlarının ├╝st seviyelere ├žıktığı senaryolar kendisine bu adaylığı getirdi. Fiziksel gelişimi de unutmamak gerekiyor. ├ľzellikle kol kasları biraz ince gibi g├Âr├╝n├╝yor. V├╝cudunun alt kısmı sağlam ancak bacakları biraz daha gelişmeli. Keza omuz ve g├Âğ├╝s b├Âl├╝mlerindeki kaslar da hen├╝z yerine oturmuş değil.

                    Kısacası Adem’in ├Ân├╝nde uzun bir yol var ancak o, yola en iyi arabayla ├žıkmışa benziyor...
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                    • #11
                      This sounds very promising. As the author said all he needs to do is have a resemblance of outside shot and develop his body, and he already has a spot in the BSL. If he can keep developing technically and mentally, which is very likely considering he is new to basketball, he can make it to serious Euroleague minutes and even NBA in the best case. He is with Karşıyaka, right? It's a good place for his development.
                      Dilimde şarkıların g├╝nd├╝z gece
                      Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbah├že
                      Bu d├╝nyayı yakarız senin i├žin
                      Şampiyonluk gelince

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                      • #12
                        What are the citizenship rules in Turkey? He got Turkish citizenship just in one year? He had never been in Turkey before and then begins to play for Turkish youth NT after a year or so?

                        I remembered a story of Ilyasova who was Uzbekistanian and then he appeared to be Turkish.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                          What are the citizenship rules in Turkey? He got Turkish citizenship just in one year? He had never been in Turkey before and then begins to play for Turkish youth NT after a year or so?
                          well, I didn't really know, so I checked on google. here is what I've found.

                          "You need to be of adult age (according to your country of origin), and you must have lived in Turkey for at least 5 years, with a total interruption of less than six months. This is reduced to 3 years if you are married to a Turkish national or if you are a foreigner born on Turkish soil."

                          so, go figure. Bona meets exactly zero of these criteria . but see this part:

                          "Your chances of obtaining citizenship will be greatly improved if you can demonstrate that you can make a valuable contribution to Turkish culture and society – if you work for a Turkish company, for example, or are a professional athlete or university professor."

                          We also know the government is selling passports in exchange of money (i.e. buying property). In short, you have tons of rules to follow to get a TR passport, but anything is possible if you are rich or an athlete.

                          Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                          I remembered a story of Ilyasova who was Uzbekistanian and then he appeared to be Turkish.
                          it's shorter, "Uzbek". Ilyasova's story is more mysterious. you can go and check that thread for nostalgia, but the most likely explanation is that he's from Uzbekistan, and not from Eskisehir as officially claimed.
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                          • #14
                            That'a a no-brainer to call Bona is surely a defense first big man for NBA standards. What he has been displaying in UCLA defensively is enough to have a room in a NBA team in future. He is the main reason why UCLA has the best defensive rating in college basketball. These are the obvious things that everyone sings from the same songbook.

                            Regardless, I have problems with the way he has been treated on offense since the beginning of season. He doesn't get any share on offense unless it is a second chance point or alley-oop position. His defensive contribution has not been rewarded with regular post-up games. The team only let him running floor to seek positions on offense. Bona developed his footwork and post-up over the years and I would expect his team to utilize him from this point of view to be honest. They obviously keep his terms with ball on offense minimum which is a bad sign for his development. Jaime Jaquez, Jaylen Clark and Tyger Campbell dominating the ball in UCLA and Bona only shares 7% of UCLA offenses which is a low percentage even for the standard of defensive center.

                            I don't like the idea of him being only a defensive anchor. He is more than his. The kid shows big potential on offense when he is trusted. I do understand the construction of his team and role that is given to him, but still some flexibility on offense should be tolerated, especially for the developing players.
                            Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
                            Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

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