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  • sagenas
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    Originally posted by auris1 View Post
    what is acronym for pbl?
    is it russian league?
    or philippines basketball league?if it is that,so he is right.
    Otherwise i assume he did not get his "cut" )
    vtb ,for me,takes a bit wrong direction in general - instead of having few strong teams and short,cut throat tournament they chooses to expand geography wise disregarding and diminishing overall level.i prefer up to 4 teams from russia and 2 from lithuania ,add some ukrainians and one latvian,plus polish champs(or even second one) so it all makes sense.maybe they can even get more euroleague level teams,who knows,but not this shit from estonia,finland or kazakhstan
    Профессиональная баскетбольная лига

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  • auris1
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    Originally posted by vaslover View Post
    All is good and wonderful, but only one thing a little bit confusing. Disgusting and annoying behavior vice-premier of Russia Sergey Ivanov a little bit tiring. Really. His constant BELITTLING the PBL and the same time cheap constant PRAISE of VTB league seems quite ridiculously...
    I really hope that one day the lithuanians withdrew from VTB league and tournament immediately will cease to exist.
    What is acronym for pbl?
    Is it Russian league?
    Or Philippines basketball league?If it is that,so he is right.
    otherwise i assume he did not get his "cut" )
    VTB ,for me,takes a bit wrong direction in general - instead of having few strong teams and short,cut throat tournament they chooses to expand geography wise disregarding and diminishing overall level.I prefer up to 4 teams from Russia and 2 from Lithuania ,add some Ukrainians and one Latvian,plus Polish champs(or even second one) so it all makes sense.Maybe they can even get more euroleague level teams,who knows,but not this shit from Estonia,Finland or Kazakhstan

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  • Jazz
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    Anyone know why Dynamo, CSKA, UNICS and Khimki weren't in the Russian Cup this year? I know three of those teams were in Euroleague or Eurocup, on top of VTB and PBL commitments, but was there any reason other than busy schedules?

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  • vaslover
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    Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
    Didn't know about this. I think there's enough "space" for the two competitions, it makes no sense to start a war with PBL. But I guess money talks louder
    Agree with you. Money talks louder and louder...

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  • rikhardur
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    Originally posted by vaslover View Post
    All is good and wonderful, but only one thing a little bit confusing. Disgusting and annoying behavior vice-premier of Russia Sergey Ivanov a little bit tiring. Really. His constant BELITTLING the PBL and the same time cheap constant PRAISE of VTB league seems quite ridiculously...
    Didn't know about this. I think there's enough "space" for the two competitions, it makes no sense to start a war with PBL. But I guess money talks louder

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  • vaslover
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    All is good and wonderful, but only one thing a little bit confusing. Disgusting and annoying behavior vice-premier of Russia Sergey Ivanov a little bit tiring. Really. His constant BELITTLING the PBL and the same time cheap constant PRAISE of VTB league seems quite ridiculously...
    I really hope that one day the lithuanians withdrew from VTB league and tournament immediately will cease to exist.

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  • Straight forward
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    Originally posted by Mindozas View Post
    Scariolo is (or maybe already "was") hugely overrated IMO. While Kurtinaitis surely surprises me as a coach, didn't expect that. The way he overplayed Kazlauskas in VTB final was impressive and IMO that was a key to victory
    That's why I'm complaining all season long about Rytas After Kurtinaitis, Anzulovic, Trifunovic and to be honest Maskoliunas (even if he's better than first two) looked miserable. Kurtinaitis is probably one of the best coaches in terms of charisma and ability to motivate players. He improves physically every team that he handles, sets up very intense defence and has some talent to make the best of each player individually (even if offensive sets probably not his strongest spot). IMO, Kurtinaitis can make some noise in Euroleague next season and I think he can go far as a coach generally.

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  • Mindozas
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    Scariolo is (or maybe already "was") hugely overrated IMO. While Kurtinaitis surely surprises me as a coach, didn't expect that. The way he overplayed Kazlauskas in VTB final was impressive and IMO that was a key to victory

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  • auris1
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    Originally posted by Billy Bounce View Post
    The incapable Scariolo has an excuse: Langford was healthy back then
    funny remark here.
    He is not THAT bad,is he?

    Kurtis complimented Scariolo saying that the players in the team were well chosen - it just that he never produced results.
    It it just damn mentality in there i think that Scariolo could not adapt to - but Kurtis knows a thing or two how to handle a team/how to handle himself in there.His credentials/experience as a player with soviet union (mainly russian) system and ever growing maturity as a coach gave overdue results straight away.

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  • sagenas
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    Kurtinaitis did just a great job. Good luck for Chimki in PBL play-offs.


    ///

    Coming back to Astana topic..they were saying "big names" + NBA lock-out === ? Possible thing for sure.

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  • pohani komarac
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    Originally posted by Billy Bounce View Post
    The incapable Scariolo has an excuse: Langford was healthy back then

    All in all kudos to Kurtinatis for not being afraid to bench Monya , when he did all possible to bring CSKA back from the grave.

    Shved, Vorontsevich were pretty solid, all the rest -

    BTW, interesting that close to the end, when everybody was tired as hell Kurtinatis instructed to give the ball ( and all offense) into Loncar hands and it worked.

    Pashutin used the same trick with Lampe in ULEB Cup final . Both guys are a pulsating black hole in defense, but their offensive skills are simply AWESOME. Yep, with capital letters.
    i would also give more credit to papadopulos. he created 3 stright times for loncar.........bur what realy suprised me that planinic didn't screw game

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  • Billy Bounce
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    Originally posted by goga78 View Post
    What a change a coach makes... After the incapable Scariolo who used a very big budget and a ver deep roster to run a one-man show, Kurtinaitis has turned this eternal loser team into a bunch of resilient fighters who have beaten Unics and CSKA back-to-back and will surely have a word or two more to say in the PBL playoffs as opposed to what could be expected a month ago.

    Congratulations to Khimki and their new VTB Final Four MVP Vitaly Fridzon!
    The incapable Scariolo has an excuse: Langford was healthy back then

    All in all kudos to Kurtinatis for not being afraid to bench Monya , when he did all possible to bring CSKA back from the grave.

    Shved, Vorontsevich were pretty solid, all the rest -

    BTW, interesting that close to the end, when everybody was tired as hell Kurtinatis instructed to give the ball ( and all offense) into Loncar hands and it worked.

    Pashutin used the same trick with Lampe in ULEB Cup final . Both guys are a pulsating black hole in defense, but their offensive skills are simply AWESOME. Yep, with capital letters.

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  • goga78
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    What a change a coach makes... After the incapable Scariolo who used a very big budget and a ver deep roster to run a one-man show, Kurtinaitis has turned this eternal loser team into a bunch of resilient fighters who have beaten Unics and CSKA back-to-back and will surely have a word or two more to say in the PBL playoffs as opposed to what could be expected a month ago.

    Congratulations to Khimki and their new VTB Final Four MVP Vitaly Fridzon!

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  • auris1
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    Originally posted by Walken View Post
    Astana's budget for next season will be approximately $ 5 million. from the old team is likely no one left. Samruk-Kazyna will be general sponsor. current coach Strebkov continue working in the club (not yet known in what status)
    It will be like middle east clubs for top european football players in their twilight.
    Although in current financial climate some big names might sign as well,who knows

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  • ArnoldPettybone
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    Khimky won the title after a hard fought battle with CSKA which ended 66-64 in favor of the "Moscow regioners". A small token of success after a disappointing season at both PBL and Euroleague, congrats to them!

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