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  • #46
    Originally posted by Lewis View Post
    wow you guys are really complicated.
    Why do you think there was a war there in the first place?
    Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
    Artificial Nature

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    • #47
      Wow, Bosnia has some nice players. I really didnt know they all were Bosnians. I hope they have a good coach, cuz they can surprise. I mean only all Domercant and Teletovic can light it up from downtown. How about Suton if he will really play for them?
      Dude can play, saw him few times in March.

      I would say smth like this:

      Bremer
      Domercant
      Teletovic
      Suton
      Kikanovic

      Dunno who is the coach but he really has something to work with. This team is Eurobasket material IMO.

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      • #48
        Bajramovic realy isn't know as good coach.

        they are still wating for Fiba to give them a green light for Preldzic and Varada because they played in Slovenian (Preldzic) Serbian (Varada) youth temas. Also only one naturalized plaer can play so it will be Domercant or Bremer
        Jordi Bertomeu sucks!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pohani komarac View Post
          hope they can make surprise and qualify for EB
          me too. go bosnia

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Lewis View Post
            wow you guys are really complicated.
            This is Balkans, my dear friend...

            Good luck to the Bosnian NT. I would like to see them qualifying for the Eurobasket.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
              Why do you think there was a war there in the first place?
              Stupid me !!!!!!!
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              • #52
                Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
                Why do you think there was a war there in the first place?
                most people think that the war in bosnia and croatia had religious roots. that was only smoke screen. the reason, of course, as always was money and power. a lot of politicians and not just ex-yugo politicians got filthy rich out of the balkan wars. the biggest benefactor of the war, as always was "the almighty" USA. they sold the weapons and arms to all 3 sides. admittedly the war became very religious in character but only because the old communist guard was not able to initially enlist enough people willing to die for lost causes. religion on the other hand was perfect motivator. orthodox against catholics, orthodox against muslims, catholics agains muslims. very sad. in the process the west succeced in destroying one of the greatest countries ever to exists. it was the very simple case of "divide and conquer". the height of west's arrogance was when serbia was bombed. americans think they can intervene in other's counties internal affairs. in serbia's case was on the pretext of saving poor albanian population of kosovo. in reality they don't care about albanian muslims (or bosnian muslims). their objective was to make serbia weak. the only country in recent times who had balls to say fcuk off to america and before that to cut down to pieces very strong yugoslavia.
                while i don't agree with what serbian politicians did in kosovo and before that in my republic bosnia, people need to know that most of them were in kahootz with foreing powers de-stabilizing yugoslavia for years after tito's death. bosnian muslim population was misled by bunch of religious freaks. that same population was only nominally muslim. meaning that 95% had no idea or cared for islam. they ate pork, they didn't circumsised the boys, they drank alcoloh, they observed no religious holidays. as a result we have radicalized population that was left alone during the 4 year war. west did not want to help and they feel betrayed.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by pohani komarac View Post
                  Bajramovic realy isn't know as good coach.
                  he is a "great" coach, until the start of the third quarter
                  then his teams usually dissapear..
                  if Bosna (basketball club) could have hired Vukoičić bosnian federation should have done the same.. either with hiring Vukoičić or some other foreign coach..
                  you can't expect Bajramović to lead a team with so much talent when he never had to cope with players like that..
                  or when he did that didn't turn out to be a good thing..
                  you can make a really good team and most importantly team with a great future in front of them..
                  Gordić, Đedović, Preldžić (if he can get the permission to play for B&H), Teletović and Kikanović..
                  that is a starting five which can play together for the next 7-9 years and I doubt Serbia, Croatia or Slovenia have a starting five for the future stronger then this one..
                  but coaching is the problem..
                  second problem which has really hurt B&H over the years is a lack of a strong interior player which can cope with strong bodies that teams usually have under the basket..
                  they didn't have that.. they could have it now with Varda.. he is not a monster player but is good enough to give them some kind of light at the end of a tunnel..
                  it could have been a great summer for them, but with Bajramović at helm I doubt it... too bad 'cause I would really like to see them performing on the big stage again 'cause this time I believe they could create a lot of problems to anyone.. a lot more then they did in 2005..
                  but the coach.. argh..
                  "Heja, heja Cibosi, hrabri kao vukovi,

                  heja, heja cibosi, vodite nas k pobjedi. "

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Picek View Post
                    he is a "great" coach, until the start of the third quarter
                    then his teams usually dissapear..
                    if Bosna (basketball club) could have hired Vukoi?i? bosnian federation should have done the same.. either with hiring Vukoi?i? or some other foreign coach..
                    you can't expect Bajramovi? to lead a team with so much talent when he never had to cope with players like that..
                    or when he did that didn't turn out to be a good thing..
                    you can make a really good team and most importantly team with a great future in front of them..
                    Gordi?, ?edovi?, Preldži? (if he can get the permission to play for B&H), Teletovi? and Kikanovi?..
                    that is a starting five which can play together for the next 7-9 years and I doubt Serbia, Croatia or Slovenia have a starting five for the future stronger then this one..
                    but coaching is the problem..
                    second problem which has really hurt B&H over the years is a lack of a strong interior player which can cope with strong bodies that teams usually have under the basket..
                    they didn't have that.. they could have it now with Varda.. he is not a monster player but is good enough to give them some kind of light at the end of a tunnel..
                    it could have been a great summer for them, but with Bajramovi? at helm I doubt it... too bad 'cause I would really like to see them performing on the big stage again 'cause this time I believe they could create a lot of problems to anyone.. a lot more then they did in 2005..
                    but the coach.. argh..
                    thanx picek for this info. i must admit that i haven't been in touch lately with bosnian team as i live on the other side of the world and with job, kids and all find it bit hard to follow all the comings and goings. greatly appreciated

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Delibasic View Post
                      the biggest benefactor of the war, as always was "the almighty" USA.they sold the weapons and arms to all 3 sides.
                      LOL, we rock !!!!!!!!!1

                      Americans think they can intervene in other's counties internal affairs.

                      Actually, the American government is the one to blame
                      Don't blame it on us, We'r just common ppl, we can't control what our goverment does, even though there are a bunch of morons that actually support all that stupidity.


                      But that has nothing to do with Basketball, does it?
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                      • #56
                        PG position is problem for Bosnia. Gordic can spent some minutes at point, but he is really a two-guard and is not very efficient at distrubuting the ball and getting the team in offensive sets.
                        My blog about european hoops http://insidehoops.blog.com

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                          LOL, we rock !!!!!!!!!1




                          Actually, the American government is the one to blame
                          Don't blame it on us, We'r just common ppl, we can't control what our goverment does, even though there are a bunch of morons that actually support all that stupidity.
                          true, it's the government. but who elects the governments, i ask you. the people. don't tell me that americans didn't lect bush for 2 terms. one term could have been seen as aberration, 2 terms is sheer ... well you know what.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Delibasic View Post
                            true, it's the government. but who elects the governments, i ask you. the people. don't tell me that americans didn't lect bush for 2 terms. one term could have been seen as aberration, 2 terms is sheer ... well you know what.
                            Well, I'm proud to say that I was not among the Freacking ignorants that voted for 'im.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                              Well, I'm proud to say that I was not among the Freacking ignorants that voted for 'im.
                              i have to say that in my travels i met many americans. mostly from new england or southern california, i also met some from seattle. and they're all very progressive, open minded people. i haven't met any from america's "interior" but i get a feeling that those folks tend to be more conservative and less acceptable of others. my conclusion that east coast and west coast (in general) are the driving force behind america in every way, economic and political. they realized what bush is really about and as a result we have obama as a president (thank god).

                              good on you for voting democrat

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                              • #60
                                Delibasic, you realise that they have a two-term system in the US? Bush didn't win because he couldn't run for President...anyway, this is a basketball forum and half of what you said in your political rant is ridiculous anyway...

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