FIBA U16 Europe 2024 (2008 born or younger)

[Srle]

Serbia vs France game was the finals before the finals. Its too bad Bikic got injured in the quarterfinal ,he couldn't help much in the semi's. Also Serbian coach did horrible job managing rotations and the minutes of some of the players at this tournament.I am not impressed by the amount of the talent in this age group. I think combined 2005-2006 generation is much more talented than 2007-2008 in Europe.I don't see many top prospects here.

[Toruko]

I tell you what happened. After the time-out with 8 minutes still to play in the 4th quarter Spaniards increased their intensity in defense and Greeks did not match-up and continued to play soft in defense while their offense collapsed. In addition Spaniards started hitting threes. Game over.

You cant give up a 12 points lead that easily.

[fasoulaki]

Sorry but this is really their dumbness nothing else. They had a 12 points lead. You have to bring this home.,

I tell you what happened. After the time-out with 8 minutes still to play in the 4th quarter Spaniards increased their intensity in defense and Greeks did not match-up and continued to play soft in defense while their offense collapsed. In addition Spaniards started hitting threes. Game over.

[Toruko]

Sorry but this is really their dumbness nothing else. They had a 12 points lead. You have to bring this home. Anyway the 08 is really poor in terms of NBA talent but the 09 generation will provide many NBA talents from Europe.

[Toruko]

I can. I have seen this movie many times.

It was so unnecessary. There was no hint of a come back. Greece made so many unnecessary TOs.

[fasoulaki]

I can. I have seen this movie many times.

[Toruko]

I dont believe this! OMG

[Toruko]

I expect them to follow the greek tradition and loose today against Spain.

No, Spain is far too weak this time. I am pretty sure that Greece will secure Gold at home. You are too pesimistic.

[fasoulaki]

There are several reasons including yours and mines but I like your U16 team. Youll find ways to be competitive.

I expect them to follow the greek tradition and loose today against Spain.

[Toruko]

Do you remember Lazaros Papadopoulos?

2006 WC how cant I know him?

In my personal opinion, the current problem with young talents in Greece is mainly due to the euro crisis and the associated austerity measures. In addition, the old head of the greek basketball federation was not mentally flexible enough in his old age to adapt to a changing basketball world.

There are several reasons including yours and mines but I like your U16 team. Youll find ways to be competitive.

[fasoulaki]

Abosi is one.

Ah thanks.I will look him up

No Greek big that I can remember of could score from post ups. Thats your weakness.

Do you remember Lazaros Papadopoulos?

I think the coming Greek basketball crisis is not solely based on the aging/decreasing population but also in your raising quality and culture.

In my personal opinion, the current problem with young talents in Greece is mainly due to the euro crisis and the associated austerity measures. In addition, the old head of the greek basketball federation was not mentally flexible enough in his old age to adapt to a changing basketball world.

[fasoulaki]

Let me write it this way. I have no problem with Dorsey, I had never a problem with big Sofo but if Greece would play with lets say 8 African rooted guys, it would be a bit strange. I wouldnt want it for Greece or for Turkey or any other European country.

I do not care where their "roots" are. Anyone who feels Greek, e.g. because they were born in Greece or (at least) one of their parents is Greek and they got their Greek citizenship legally, I am fully in favor of letting them play for Greece.

[Toruko]

No, we need some who can not only jump, but also shoot the three and free throws like the guys from South Sudan. Climate change combined with wildfires will turn Greece into a South Saharan country one way or another. But stop kidding do you know any african immigrant kids playing for the greek youth national teams?

Abosi is one. He was in your U18 team if I am not mistaken. He looked very solid last year but this year he was really bad. I think the coming Greek basketball crisis is not solely based on the aging/decreasing population but also in your raising quality and culture. Basketball became very fast and bases on athleticism and Turks and Greeks are not that athletic so new ways of being useful/successful must be found.

Especially, raising bigs is a big problem for the Greek basketball. Even big Sofo, Giannis or even Papadopoulos they all had fundamental issues. Giannis for example is really bad in defending post up situations. Generally, he defends really bad in the Greek NT. No Greek big that I can remember of could score from post ups. Thats your weakness.

We Turks cant raise guards on the other hand. Take a random Greek guard, lets say Mouratos or Liotopoulos. It does not matter. They are simply better than any Turkish guard. Of course sometimes a talent like Tunceri or Kutluay pops up but there is no system. The problem of Greek basketball is the lack of scoring.

[Toruko]

The whole conversation started by this :

You don't consider Walkup as an issue but Dorsey for our national team.
Probably I don't get your dark humor..

Let me write it this way. I have no problem with Dorsey, I had never a problem with big Sofo but if Greece would play with lets say 8 African rooted guys, it would be a bit strange. I wouldnt want it for Greece or for Turkey or any other European country.

The issue with the naturalization: Its not somehting that I prefer. I would even say I am strictly against it BUT if even Spain uses the possibility why should I deny using Larkin or Walkup? I mean if the Serbs are against it or the Lithuanians its honorable and the Serbs can afford it which makes them to a basketball country. We Turks are not at that level yet.

[tonia]

And I asked you already naturalized Walkup, not Dorsey. No need to feel attacked.

The whole conversation started by this :

I think you have more than enough. 4 Antetokoumpos + Dorsey. If you are not careful, you may look like a South Sahara country.

You don't consider Walkup as an issue but Dorsey for our national team.
Probably I don't get your dark humor..