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  • #31
    Mestoglu didn´t see much minutes last year either in this team, he is not very important for TBF. Mestoglu is the most talented player in this team but if you just 200 as a big your chances are not very good, he will be pro, maybe even a solid pro. I would not overrate this situation. Karahan Efeoglu(SF) got always very much minutes in this generation but he is not important for turkish bb. Yigit Tekin(PG, next season NCAA) is with the team, he had knee injury. He has questionable potential for pro level because of playmakingskills and more because of his NCAA-decision but at this level he is a machine. Arda Duraklar(C) will go to NCAA too, he is raw but interesting potential as a real 210 with his 3 point shooting but with NCAA it will be tough, again very bad decision. This 2004 generation is one of the best of all time, even if some players will not get real playingtime, we will see most of them at pro level. If Samet Yigitoglu starts to protect the rim then he will play in the NBA. For TBF he is the most important player in this generation.

    Originally posted by Toruko View Post
    Cengiz totally went under my radar but watching some highlights he can really go easily to the rim
    Özgür Cengiz was by far the best player of the U15 NT in the U16 TBF tournament in February 2020 and then came corona. In the 2021 season(6-7 BGL games) he was not very good and he had a bit too small role in the U16 NT. But this season was good for him in the youth league and under coach Cem Akdag(ex-coach of Ömer Yasir Kücük), he had 100% freedom. He must work on his playmaking, must increase his vision but ballhandling, shot making are above average for turkish standards and he is a leader but his biggest plus is his high IQ, kid is just clever and very positive his face is still very very young and he doesn´t bulked up, Emir Arda Sivas already bulked up. It´s easy in highlights to go to the rim but in reality he is just decent in those situations and he benefits from his cleverness. You know who is the one and only good turkish PG in driving, his name is of course Derin Can Üstün(07). We must follow Melih Tunca(05, Efes, not pure PG but more PG as Eray Büyükcangaz, Yagiz Aksu) next season too, he has bigger potential as almost all turkish PG prospects. Mehmet Efe Demirel(05, C, Efes) was a very interesting big but after his hard knee operation he had very big problems in his comeback but he is in this U18 NT, again very bad decision from TBF because kid must work on his body. He had decent foot speed, after injury very heavy foots.

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    • #32
      FIBA listed Berke Büyüktuncel 206 as well as Efe Tahmaz and Kerem Kuthan Konan. According to FIBA Eray Büyükcangaz has grown too and is listed 202 cm now. This is surely the tallest NT of all time.

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      • #33
        The final Turkish roster of the U18 team.

        Özgür Cengiz
        Berke Büyüktuncel
        Emir Arda Sivas
        Karahan Tuan Efeoğlu
        Eren Deniz
        Yiğit Hamza Mestoğlu
        Eray Büyükcangaz
        Buğra Çal
        Ege Tan Yıldızoğlu
        Mehmet Efe Demirel
        Kerem Kuthan Konan
        Samet Yiğitoğlu

        Most expected names on the list. I expected just the new Besiktas player Efe Tahmaz. He isnt ready for level A (more of a project for the following years) but that he couldnt make it in the final U18 roster is weird but ok. This is one of the best youth teams of all time and this team has almost everything. Especially the forward positions are thriving and also the guards can all create their shots to a certain extend. We have size and defense. The average size should be like 204cm or near.

        A medal is expected and the color is more like gold.

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        • #34
          Lithuania final roster (in logical C to PG order)
          Motiejus Krivas 214
          Matas Vokietaitis 204
          Emilis Bartninkas 204
          Kajus Leliukas 204
          Paulius Murauskas 204
          Kristupas Keinys 201
          Domantas Šarauskas 200
          Rokas Jocys 196
          Arūnas Rimkus 194
          Modestas Babraitis 193
          Laurynas Klimas 186
          Kajus Kublickas 188
          The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Toruko View Post
            The final Turkish roster of the U18 team.

            Özgür Cengiz
            Berke Büyüktuncel
            Emir Arda Sivas
            Karahan Tuan Efeoğlu
            Eren Deniz
            Yiğit Hamza Mestoğlu
            Eray Büyükcangaz
            Buğra Çal
            Ege Tan Yıldızoğlu
            Mehmet Efe Demirel
            Kerem Kuthan Konan
            Samet Yiğitoğlu

            Most expected names on the list. I expected just the new Besiktas player Efe Tahmaz. He isnt ready for level A (more of a project for the following years) but that he couldnt make it in the final U18 roster is weird but ok. This is one of the best youth teams of all time and this team has almost everything. Especially the forward positions are thriving and also the guards can all create their shots to a certain extend. We have size and defense. The average size should be like 204cm or near.

            A medal is expected and the color is more like gold.
            Crazy PF rotation in this year's version of U-18 team. Both Büyüktuncel, Konan and Mestoğlu have great upsides. Even if we can promote only one of them to senior NT as a regular high-level contributor, this will save the next 15 years of senior NT in that position.
            Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
            Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

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            • #36
              Originally posted by slice me nice View Post
              Crazy PF rotation in this year's version of U-18 team. Both Büyüktuncel, Konan and Mestoğlu have great upsides. Even if we can promote only one of them to senior NT as a regular high-level contributor, this will save the next 15 years of senior NT in that position.
              Yeah about the PF there is no need to worry although Mestoglu is worrisome I must say. The PG position is really more of a problem right now but finding just one proper guy who can control the pace, defend and make plays and we have a very decent team.

              Actually there are rumors about Kerem Kuthan Konan leaving Besiktas and playing for Buducnost second team.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Toruko View Post
                Yeah about the PF there is no need to worry although Mestoglu is worrisome I must say. The PG position is really more of a problem right now but finding just one proper guy who can control the pace, defend and make plays and we have a very decent team.

                Actually there are rumors about Kerem Kuthan Konan leaving Besiktas and playing for Buducnost second team.
                Actually PG is the strongest position right after PF. Sivas, Cengiz and Yıldızoğlu are more than enough for this level.

                Konan, Doğan and Yiğitoğlu are all the toys of an agent. They are doing wrong. They are going/have gone to very wrong destinations. He may leave Besiktas, I don't care at all, but I would want them to join more proper basketball academies.
                Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.
                Mustafa Kemal ATATURK

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by slice me nice View Post
                  Actually PG is the strongest position right after PF. Sivas, Cengiz and Yıldızoğlu are more than enough for this level.

                  Konan, Doğan and Yiğitoğlu are all the toys of an agent. They are doing wrong. They are going/have gone to very wrong destinations. He may leave Besiktas, I don't care at all, but I would want them to join more proper basketball academies.
                  I wasnt talking about this level. Its time for a new Tunceri or similar impactful combo guard. One 1,2 to 1,5.

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                  • #39
                    OK, just 51+ difference I expected more tbh. No, just kidding...

                    Ok we started very excited and our guards Emir Arda and Özgür Cengiz couldnt show much because of their excitements and lack of experience. Cengiz needs to bulk up and improve his handles. He is a good shooter but I liked Emir Arda Sivas defense a lot. He did a great great job.

                    The ice was broken by Eray Büyükcangaz, played very efficient and smart but he shies away when he drives to the rim. His kick out passes are good but he should have the ability to finish more at the rim.

                    We struggled a big due to forwards who play without the ball. Fikret Dogan saw it thanks god and turned to three guards.

                    Samet Yigitoglu showed today that he is one of the best maybe the best center in this tournament. I always knew that he can shoot and today he showed it once. Very mobile and when he can show some rim protection draft discussions will start

                    BTW I never expected Efe Demirel to be such a defender. Offensively very raw but good defender.

                    Ege Tan Yildizoglu was in a different dimension today. Great court vision, reading, ball pressure. He was the MVP. When he shoots like today consistently we have one more great guard.

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                    • #40
                      Many kids and "scouts" without plan writing just bullshit on twitter about turkish team, just funny...... Problem is again not clear roles and not big enough roles for the most important players(most important for turkish bb in this team) like Kerem Konan, Eray Büyükcangaz. Turkish bb not only lacking talent on PG. Secondary ballhandler position is also very very thin therefore Eray Büyükcangaz is a very important prospect for turkish bb. It´s not important if he will perform bad or good in this tournament, we will see him on senior level for sure, kid has real potential.

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                      • #41
                        There is a huge and annoying difference in strength in the U18 EC in Izmir. The first five teams are too strong for the rest. You cant draw any conclusion if France beats Macedonia with 50 points difference or Turkey beating Poland with 50

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                        • #42
                          That poster by Almansa. This Turkey also lacks proper PG. Permanent problem.
                          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                          Buzelis, Lelevicius
                          Murauskas, Sirvydis
                          Tubelis, Krivas

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                          • #43
                            Spain's ball movement and team ball is at another level + very good defence. I like Almansa and No. 7 Rodriguez. The latter dynamic guard, seems like a bit taller Navarro at times.
                            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                            Buzelis, Lelevicius
                            Murauskas, Sirvydis
                            Tubelis, Krivas

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                            • #44
                              You can win or lose, its not important but you must give your most important players(Kerem Konan and Eray Büyükcangaz) the biggest roles. Only talent is important, only talent. Sadece ve sadece yetenek, hic bir baska sey önemli degil bu organizasyonlar da, istedigin gibi kaybet ama büyük oyuncularin parlasin, sadece ve sadece yetenek. Sampiyon olsan ve Ege Tan en cok süre alan oyuncun olsa ne kazanirsin? hic bir sey. Sadece yetenek......

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                              • #45
                                Spain's basketball school seems to be the machine. There's a good chance they are taking yet another gold. It's actually find pretty amazing that today senior team is not elite, and takes some random American (huge blow and shame!), cause that's not gonna be for too long. Maybe just for one tournament 2022. Later Rubio will come back, Alocen and Nunez will be establishing their positions and so on.
                                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                                Tubelis, Krivas

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