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  • #76
    I mean I would love to see Lithuania winning something big, but simply France, Serbia, Germany are surely stronger today and Spain most likely too. So there's no objective ground for it.

    Then Latvia, Greece, Slovenia and some others on the same tier.

    So...
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
      I mean I would love to see Lithuania winning something big, but simply France, Serbia, Germany are surely stronger today and Spain most likely too. So there's no objective ground for it.

      Then Latvia, Greece, Slovenia and some others on the same tier.

      So...
      It's third NT summer in a row. Very few NBA players will play.

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      • #78
        Eurobasket 2025 rosters will be clearly weaker than 2024 was.

        First year on new olympic its time to integrade new tallents and start preparing them for 2028 and dont expect big results in their first summer.


        LTU fans need to stop dreaming and see reality. Making top 8 for Lithuania basketball is good result last 10 years.


        9th place, 9th place, DNP, 15th place, 6th place, DNP Thats how looked last 6 fiba tournaments.

        This is simply strenght of our NT in 2017-2024.


        And i dont see new euroleague star or new 10pts nba player comming to change this trajectory in 2025. Without adding such calibre star results wont change drastically

        The best scenerio we can expect in 2025 is to have 2023 NTs vibes when tallent was limited,but pieces fit together.
        Last edited by Shawshank; 08-22-2024, 08:10 AM.

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        • #79
          Looking at the roster I can say its certainly weaker than 2022

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          • #80
            Dirtyh​, not sure about it. There's a gap in 2026, so why not to play in 2025 when you know you will rest next summer? But some teams as Serbia may not attract Jokic and maybe even Bogi who is not getting younger. Probably no Giannis for Greece too so, yeah, things might get interesting.

            SS, you finally got it. Good for you. Besides, I do expect Buzelis to be +10ppg in the rookie season. Something like 9-14ppg with not goof FG % is what I see for Matas in his first year.

            Toruko, why do you see that? I don't see it at all if it will be the roster like I said (and who knows maybe Grigonis, Ulanovas, Butkevicius will still play and such, but I think we should spill new blood). If you look at 2022 roster, best 4th and 5th players were Jokubaitis and Brazdeikis. They both will be way better than in 2022, specially Jokubaitis I think who has higher ceiling. Then if Buzelis comes it's a whole another story. Yeah, still young, but still a piece with some amazing abilities. Sabonis should be better than 2022. Let not his injured and not prepared self make you think that he's useless. With full preparation and mesh, he still can be a force. JV won't be as good, that's true and maybe Grigonis out (but both choked in knock out stage so...). IDK, at the very least I don't see that 2025 would be obviously weaker. I would actually be more on the side that this team having higher upside. Specially if younger pieces as Sirvydis, Tubelis, Marciulionis, Rubstavicius will provide something and they can cause it's a players with good upside. Not all of them would off course, but if some Sirvydis and Tubelis provides it's already nice. And Marciulionis can bring D and facilitation at the very least for his grindy 15-18mpg. It's much more tricky than you guys say.
            Last edited by Straight forward; 08-22-2024, 11:09 AM.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • #81
              Rumor is, Balciunas offering NT head coach post to Kurtinaitis...

              Not sure I'm a fan of that. Not idea that to think about it. He had some amazing success giving all possible freedom to Chuck Eidson. The game plan to give all possible freedom to Jakucionis and Buzelis?

              He would bring more discipline and kinda old school values...that's good. But as a specialist I think he's way outdated. He doesn't grasp the game detailed enough just as Maksvytis and maybe even more. On other hand, maybe Kurtinaitis would have more balls defining proper roles. Maksvytis was pathetic at this. Like random redneck "fizrukas" just made mediocre most pathetic decisions. I liked how Kurtinaitis made 20yo or so Gecas the leader of Rytas. Dude had balls to do that. Maybe he would have balls to unleash Jakucionis and Buzelis at the right time (like instantly, flat out).

              On other hand, Kurtinaitis kept Kalnietis, Pocius, Janavicius aside NT in 2009 and took some cringey Mazutis, Jomantas...But it was mainly Butautas...Butautas is typical "Maksvytis". The redneck with "fizrukas" mindset. He would make the most pathetic decisions. He would take fucking Lukauskas, but would not unleash 19yo Buzelis Hate that kind of Lithuanian coaching scrubs, simply hate. Idiots.

              So, it's a bit tricky, and more like NO to me, but I have to say it's would also be interesting to have Kurtinaitis in the NT.
              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
              Buzelis, Lelevicius
              Murauskas, Sirvydis
              Tubelis, Krivas

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              • #82
                We are anyway fucked because of having to choose between mediocre Lith coaches. So, it's meh if it's Kurtinaitis, Zibenas or whoever else.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                  We are anyway fucked because of having to choose between mediocre Lith coaches. So, it's meh if it's Kurtinaitis, Zibenas or whoever else.
                  But we won gold with Sireika. Maybe there's hope
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                    We are anyway fucked because of having to choose between mediocre Lith coaches. So, it's meh if it's Kurtinaitis, Zibenas or whoever else.
                    ATM, to me Kurtinaitis > Zibenas. Kurtinaitis nevertheless is respected old school dude. And I think Kurtinaitis has more guts to make some brave decisions, defining the roles looking at players abilities and not age.
                    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                    Buzelis, Lelevicius
                    Murauskas, Sirvydis
                    Tubelis, Krivas

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                    • #85
                      I'm sorry, but Javtokas answers are ridiculous. He has no idea what's he's doing, what he's going to do, he has no vision, no ideas, no power, nothing. It's almost cringey and this guy has to beat pro active Balciunas.
                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • #86
                        NT coach candidates is maybe uleb level , federation main head is more interested in stealing money than results, NT didnt have even one elite perimeter player last 15 years and most ltu fans still living in world where LTU NT ale is top 4 team


                        Lithuanian basketball overall becoming funny from all perspectives

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                          NT coach candidates is maybe uleb level , federation main head is more interested in stealing money than results, NT didnt have even one elite perimeter player last 15 years and most ltu fans still living in world where LTU NT ale is top 4 team


                          Lithuanian basketball overall becoming funny from all perspectives
                          Such generalizations are funny.

                          Lithuania is 6th in Europe FIBA ranking. Ahead 1 Serbia, 2 Germany, 3 France, 4 Spain, 5 Latvia.

                          Lithuania is not becoming funny. Lithuania is blessed to have such level players as Buzelis and Jakucionis again.

                          To me it's funny to hear all these speculations. You need 1-2 game changers, those who would bring wins. Even USA in 2028 the way their talent shapes, will have issues, cause they don't have their next obvious Kobe, Lebron, KD, Curry level players.

                          All this money, system, infrastructure, coaching level is important, but it comes down to the main thing - exceptional players. We were broke in 1992, but we had Rooney, Sabas, Kurtinaitis, Karsis and they carried us to the medal. We had no BB school, no courts, no money, nothing. Yet we had Sabas and Rooney, boom.

                          I like Spanish example the most. They have the best or second best BB school in the world, but they don't have next Pau, not even next Rubio. And they are in trouble in this very moment. They don't have next special player.

                          It all comes down to this. Lihuania is blessed to have Buzelis and KJ.
                          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                          Buzelis, Lelevicius
                          Murauskas, Sirvydis
                          Tubelis, Krivas

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                          • #88
                            It all comes down to this. Lihuania is blessed to have Buzelis and KJ.
                            Let them first become something.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                              Let them first become something.
                              LTU basketball has no busts of such level prospects. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but highly unlikely.
                              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                              Buzelis, Lelevicius
                              Murauskas, Sirvydis
                              Tubelis, Krivas

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

                                LTU basketball has no busts of such level prospects. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but highly unlikely.
                                The question is if they can carry a team or not. Every of those countries you mentioned above have player who are the best players in their NBA teams or one of the top three at least.

                                The next question is if their skill set can compensate the weaknesses of the team. There is a looong way to go.

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