2025 Lithuanian NT

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That nba kid who average 2 pts per game after first 10 nba games is prevailing ?

Right now Buzelis looks like total gamble and just raw project far from being sure deal.


What elite coaching are you still dreaming? our head coach is baku coach that loses every single game in 3rd europes league and other coach is podcaster

Second elite option is far as possible from NT with Balciunas winning elections.


Yes most likely they will come to men NT like basketball history teaching us after turning 23 old age and having real men body and some experience in their heads


Thats why im saying Buzelis and Jakucionis is not 2025-2028 cycle players. Even if they make debut in 2027-2028 but just as role players,not some game changers.


Game changing players if NT will achieve anything must come 1996-2002 born players in 2025-2028

I meant Buzelis development won't be affected by the "minds" of Pacesas That's the best news. As a project he has everything to succeed, it's only a matter of time.

I don't dream, I simply say if we had elite coaches - we had much more fluent and spot on transition of talent to the NT. Now situation is clear. Jasikevicius is not coaching and there is zero other elite coaches.

Only time will tell how fast and how much these 2 will be ready. Buzelis will need time, but don't forget he'll be 24yo in Olympics. We'll have to wait and see. I can only say that I never seen LTU 18yo guard as Jakucionis. No-one facilitated and run the game so dynamically and dominantly. I can see Jakucionis getting real role in the NBA next season already. He's that good, dynamic and manipulative with the ball, hands down. My gut feeling and long term vision positions 22yo KJ as very very capable PRO already. Not complete game changer on FIBA court yet maybe, but already top notch talent with bursting aggression.

This is exactly the perspective now the way KJ looks on the court, it's not even about his numbers, he just runs the show entirely:

Jakucionis has good size at 6-foot-5 and 200 pounds, drawing fouls while orchestrating the Illini offense like a maestro. Enjoy him while you can—he’ll be terrorizing NBA defenses in a year.

https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2024/11/13/24294061/ho-hum-illinois-basketball-is-elite-again-illini-bigten-hoops-collegehoops-marchmadness-ivisic-riley

[Toruko]

That nba kid who average 2 pts per game after first 10 nba games is prevailing ?

Right now Buzelis looks like total gamble and just raw project far from being sure deal.


What elite coaching are you still dreaming? our head coach is baku coach that loses every single game in 3rd europes league and other coach is podcaster

Second elite option is far as possible from NT with Balciunas winning elections.


Yes most likely they will come to men NT like basketball history teaching us after turning 23 old age and having real men body and some experience in their heads


Thats why im saying Buzelis and Jakucionis is not 2025-2028 cycle players. Even if they make debut in 2027-2028 but just as role players,not some game changers.


Game changing players if NT will achieve anything must come 1996-2002 born players in 2025-2028

Its correct that SF is relying too much on too many young guys but I would not rule out the possibility of one guy taking over in early stage. It wont be Buzelis since it tells a lot that he cant minutes with the Bulls. I expected way more to be honest. Kasparas Jakucionis has his weaknesses since he has to become far more efficient but he is a superb play maker and rebounder for his level. If you had watched the PAO game yesterday Jokubaitis was horrible in his last two minutes. He does not have what needs to be a game finisher.

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Its correct that SF is relying too much on too many young guys but I would not rule out the possibility of one guy taking over in early stage. It wont be Buzelis since it tells a lot that he cant minutes with the Bulls. I expected way more to be honest. Kasparas Jakucionis has his weaknesses since he has to become far more efficient but he is a superb play maker and rebounder for his level. If you had watched the PAO game yesterday Jokubaitis was horrible in his last two minutes. He does not have what needs to be a game finisher.

Toruko, you're relying on old news. There's nothing inefficient about KJ LOL At least not after 2 transcendent games. Some-one posted on twitter than KJ may be the guy of "analytics" so far in the NCAA (entire NCAA). He is averaging 11,5ppg with overall 7 shots in 2 games But he got to the FT line 16 times. Dude's is a beast and constantly progressing. I just hope his progression line won't brake cause now it's just surreal. Each month he's different monster. I wouldn't exclude possibility that at the end of NCAA season NBA world will have KJ as locked top 3 pick. There's realistic chance for it if his scoring game will transcend too as amazing as his facilitation does now.

[Shawshank]

Its correct that SF is relying too much on too many young guys but I would not rule out the possibility of one guy taking over in early stage. It wont be Buzelis since it tells a lot that he cant minutes with the Bulls. I expected way more to be honest. Kasparas Jakucionis has his weaknesses since he has to become far more efficient but he is a superb play maker and rebounder for his level. If you had watched the PAO game yesterday Jokubaitis was horrible in his last two minutes. He does not have what needs to be a game finisher.

One youngsters yes... usually there is one youngster per olympic cycle in LTU NT that is helping NT at 21-22 age as top 9 rotation player,but not in role as some kind leader or anything close to that.

But 95% of main top 9 players is 23+ and older thats how it goes in top 10 NT level roster of small population country.


Can it be some Jakucionis top 9 rotation player? maybe but main winning production must come from men born in 1996-2002 to win games in 2025-2028.

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Pacesas asked about Rubstavicius and NT in window games : "as matau jis daro pazanga,bet rinktineje turi zaist geriausi,jaunystes kreditas man nelabai veikia, jaunimas turi zaist jaunimo rinktinej"

I knew you were cherry picking and just being confirmation bias as usually I watched the video and Pacesas also said - "turi buti ryskiai geresnis, ar but bent tam paciam lygy, kad isstumt vyresni, kuris yra uzsitarnaves, paaukojes ne viena vasara (...) toks bent mano poziuris, nezinau, koks Rimo".

So you just took one part out of the context. I believe even Pacesas (or Kurtinaitis) aren't that blind not to sense world class material when it will be all obvious even for their level BB mind. Well, at least I hope.

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One youngsters yes... usually there is one youngster per olympic cycle in LTU NT that is helping NT at 21-22 age as top 9 rotation player,but not in role as some kind leader or anything close to that.

But 95% of main top 9 players is 23+ and older thats how it goes in top 10 NT level roster of small population country.


Can it be some Jakucionis top 9 rotation player? maybe but main winning production must come from men born in 1996-2002 to win games in 2025-2028.

Dude, you're reaching Hepcat level. You are barely stand as respectable poster with that shit, LOL. Watch a player, don't preach your schemes here.

[Shawshank]

dinosour expert

I dont care that you dislike it. Thats is reality what happens in most olympic cycles according to our basketball history. Every cycle like clock one real tallent helps men NT and others needs time to grow up and mature to help top 10 level NT.


Your blind hope of horoscope predictions is just drinking bar talks and now seeing how Buzelis from nr 1 picks 3 years ago ...now is 2pts per game raw project with unclear nba future.Thats why nobody knows what will be from those talented kids when they will start playing high level men players.


According to your 2020 predictions here Sirvydis,Jokubaitis,Brazdeikis,Sedekerskis,Sabonis ,Tubelis should have been killing in 2024 olympics. Didnt they do that? no,they failed to qualife to olympics...


Thats why im laughing at 2024 your horoscope predictions how 22 and 24 old youngsters ale gonna be great in 2028 olympic summers playing top 10 world players. aha sure

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According to your 2020 predictions here Sirvydis,Jokubaitis,Brazdeikis,Sedekerskis,Sabonis ,Tubelis should have been killing in 2024 olympics. Didnt they do that? no,they failed to qualife to olympics...

22yo Jokubaitis was the best player of NT in WC. He also was the best player this summer in the final of qualification, so. Brazdeikis almost carried us to stacked EB 4finals and was most clutch player. All players who you mention playing well, except maybe Sirvydis who really struggled this summer. So it's not about age.

KJ and Buzelis are bigger prospect than these you mention (except Sabonis, but Sabonis is center and that's other story). And, again, why you pretend to know anything about KJ if you don't follow him? To me it's funny how you don't even know the player, but still trying to squeeze him into your schemes. It's a lunatic territory, dude. Did Doncic, Wemby, or OK let's take it more adequate example as Schroder sucked balls in FIBA as 22yo? No, they were really good. It wouldn't be a first time when world class player is good being 21-22yo. Hell, even take our Karnisovas, who wasn't world class player, he was dropping 12ppg in Olympics as 21yo. It's about the TALENT. Get to know with players we talk about. Don't act like lunatic. Respect posters here or you can get the fuck off with your bullshit, alright?

[Shawshank]

I repeat you were singing in 2020 here how Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,Brazdeikis,Sabonis,Tubelis,Sed ekerskis will put lithuania Nt on other level compared to 2017-2021.


All of them sucked in 2024 olympic summer and couldnt even beat weakest olympic team of 2024 and wasnt even close to be top 8 Nt in loaded 2024 summer.


Now you are singing same song how other 2 talented kids will change everything in their very early inexperience players ages.... playing versus top 10 worlds player in 2028 olympics

aha sure good fairy tale horosocope prediction well done )



And now better make seriuos plan from born 1996-2002 experience proffesionals how to make olympics in 2028.

Inexperience youngsters in 2028 olympic battles will help our men NT as much as your praised Sirvydis or Tubelis did in 2024.

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Stop squeezing everything into your silly schemes Look what's happening in BB instead. Watch players. We need world class pieces. Jokubaitis development has been disappointing, at some point he looked like he can reach even NBA. I'm not saying optimism was even remotely nearly as equal as about current KJ, but still. FIBA requires top notch pieces, world class players. Now you, as a naive boy still preaching your own agenda how you will search game changers in 1996-2002 (or whatever age). Meaning you as a naive as always and still think it's about the age Look for world class players and not for players in any fucking certain age, Jesus If you can't see that there's absolutely zero world class players and game changing material among 1996-2002, you can't see anything in BB None will be game changer in today's FIBA. Yous till think age will grow you a players, LOL. Just like your fucking prime 1992 gen gave you medals that you were preaching here everyday for 5 fucking years. Age won't give you a single fuck, dig it? You either have wolrd class talents or you don't. Watch basketball you're naive f...

If none of KJ/Buzelis won't turn into world class material PROs we're totally fucked, OK? That is as simple as that. Forget your ages and your stupid generations.

[Shawshank]

No you are wrong experience matters alot when all best players show up in olympic summer. Because best players is taking advantage of every weakness.

I saw how in modern strong fiba 2012 Valanciunas,2016 sabonis and Grigonis and 2024 Sirvydis,Jokubaitis,Tubelis how they performed in loaded olympic summers at 20-23 age ... moment and level was clearly too big for them

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Because its tottaly diffrent level and difrent emotional preparation needed to play well in such atmosphere because opponnets is good nba and best euroleague players. Not raw kids from ncaa or amateurs lkl veterans as their opponents


top 10 2023 ncaa player+lkl mvp 2024 or uleb leading scorer looked like nobodies in olympic qualification...that was not even main olympic stage !


So you can tell this fantasies to some old grandma in park how inexperience at 22 and 24 old youngster will be game changers in 2028 olympics.Those who have seen olympic basketball knows that very unrelistic

Best worlds players is experience wolfs that have seen everything in basketball and some just talented kid isnt outhinking or outplaying them in olympic stage


Team need experience men winners to beat other experience champions in real battle in last minutes in Olympic stage...

Not just have blind hope that some young little pussycat with close to zero fighting experience will beat best fighting lions on main stage

[Hepcat]

Dude, you're reaching Hepcat level.

Start paying attention to a player's production instead of his style and you may eventually reach my level yourself.

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No you are wrong experience matters alot when all best players show up in olympic summer. Because best players is taking advantage of every weakness.

I saw how in modern strong fiba 2012 Valanciunas,2016 sabonis and Grigonis and 2024 Sirvydis,Jokubaitis,Tubelis how they performed in loaded olympic summers at 20-23 age ... moment and level was clearly too big for them

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Because its tottaly diffrent level and difrent emotional preparation needed to play well in such atmosphere because opponnets is good nba and best euroleague players. Not raw kids from ncaa or amateurs lkl veterans as their opponents


top 10 2023 ncaa player+lkl mvp 2024 or uleb leading scorer looked like nobodies in olympic qualification...that was not even main olympic stage !


So you can tell this fantasies to some old grandma in park how inexperience at 22 and 24 old youngster will be game changers in 2028 olympics.Those who have seen olympic basketball knows that very unrelistic

Best worlds players is experience wolfs that have seen everything in basketball and some just talented kid isnt outhinking or outplaying them in olympic stage


Team need experience men winners to beat other experience champions in real battle in last minutes in Olympic stage...

Not just have blind hope that some young little pussycat with close to zero fighting experience will beat best fighting lions on main stage

No-one knows how much KJ and Buzelis will be ready in 2028. Point is, we can't win big without world class players. You mention Sirvydis choking, but forget that your prime players as Ulanovas, Grigonis, Butkevicius choked in 2024 as well. Are they inexperiened also? Ask Maksvytis way the team couldn't even compete with PR.

Your problem what you think matured players will come and do the job. No, they want. If the level is not there, you can wait for player until he's 40, you won't get it from him. That's why it's do or die for LTu to develop top notch, world class material. For a decade now we can't win without world class players (centers aside). You can search in your schemes for most experienced or whatever, it doesn't matter if they don't have enough talent. The end will be the same - we will suck a cock.

And the funniest part is, you cherry pick and that's extremely funny You mention JV in 2012, you mention Sabonis in 2016, but you don't mention 21yo Kanrisovas with 12pts in 1992, 24yo Jasikevicius in 2000 when he was dropping +20 in the knock out stage and was best player, you don't mention 24yo Macijauskas who was scoring 27,3ppg as 24yo in 2004. So, please, be pathetic else where with your BS and your schemes. Go discuss with Hepcat in the private section, you have a lot off court things to discuss.

[Dreamcatcher]

I would love to see Shorts playing in upcoming game against Lith team. He alone could put Lith team on the edge of risking to lose the game making it interesting. He is probably the hottest EL player at the moment.

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I would love to see Shorts playing in upcoming game against Lith team. He alone could put Lith team on the edge of risking to lose the game making it interesting. He is probably the hottest EL player at the moment.

Let's just secure EB ticket.