2024 Lithuanian NT

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Coach that had them for 1,5 years knows them and their abilities way better than me or you.

Don't hold coach idiot who clearly knows more about those players.

D.Giedraitis have no offence that's the problem with him and why even trinchieri benched in Lietkabelis 2halfs.

Evans did by far best job on Sirvydis.


You know how I know that Dimsa is better than other LTU backourt players? Because he gets coaches assignments to defend opponents best players.

Other our NT candidates on perimeter never even does that.Why? Because their own coaches knows they suck in defence

those who most often defend opponents leaders and will get cooked the most normal


I saw 1,5 years how Dimsa played better under Kazys and 4 months how Giedraitis played better under Trinchieri.

They are same level players only for one coach one fits better and for other coach other better.

Coach Maskvytis invited to camp the one that fits him more.

Don't need to picture like one is 45 best LTU player and other 7th best.

No they both are somewhere in 10-18 range and neither of will be diffrence in winning or lossing .They are helpers and their playing time depends on what coach needs.

If Brazdeikis would be in I'm almost sure Dimsa wouldn't be invited

So again you interested discussing 10-15th spot players way more than top 5 that matter the most

I mean you're trying. You try to justify Maksvytis. But the thing is that Dimsa could only be better option to guard wings. Or Buktevicius (who if fully ready is way better defender than Dimsa). But when it comes to those 180cm players, hands down D. Giedraitis is at another level. Literally. Way better than Dimsa and even better than Butkevicius. I know you know it and I know that you knew that I know that you know. So it's pointless. Just admit it. No-one cares BTW how Dimsa looked last season or whatever. It's about who's better player now. And Trincieri had his word. Never put freakin' Maksvytis and Trincieri in the same line. Maksvytis is complete scrub compared to Trinchieri.

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Smitd and Dimsa were big minutes players last season to team which made top 8

With new coach got their minutes cut from starters to bench players and looks way worse players.

Do they forgot how to play ? Or simply for trinchieri style Giedraitis and Manek is better fit?

I Want NT coach take players that fits his style he wants to play


I said here multiple times i would take d.Giedtaitis for puerturico game but that I see big difference maker with such passive offence

But im surprised that coach took player that played better under him

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I said here multiple times i would take d.Giedtaitis but i'm in pissed that he took player that played better under him ?

No I'm not

Yeah, we so how Dima was stopping serious players against Serbia. Hell even how he defended against Estonia in last game. Or how "well" he coped with Sirvydis. Just shinning for both Maskvytis and Trinchieri indeed.

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It's funny how people still don't get that Maksvytis is a coach of scrubs. For him it's much more natural to take Zukauskas instead of Sedekerskis, Maldunas instead of Tubelis, even if first two are average scrubs and last two are legitimate talents. Or in a bit less obvious examples, to take Kariniauskas instead Marciulionis, Dimsa instead Giedraitis and so on. He loves average scrubs and is built to coach such material. Period. That's because he's a scrubby average coach himself.

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Listen you want to see what you want to see.

I saw Dimsa playing better under NT head coach 1.5 year that happend

I saw Dimsa being solid in 2023 world champ way better than R.Giedraitis 2022 or Sirvydis 2023 that aldo happend

Dimsa shown me he can play .That he sucks under Trinchieri for 4 months yes that also happend

Coach took player that played better under him normal desicion for those who remembers more than last 4 months

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Listen you want to see what you want to see.

I saw Dimsa playing better under NT head coach 1.5 year that happend

I saw Dimsa being solid in 2023 world champ way better than R.Giedraitis 2022 or Sirvydis 2023 that aldo happend

Dimsa shown me he can play .That he sucks under Trinchieri for 4 months yes that also happend

Coach took player that played better under him normal desicion for those who remembers more than last 4 months

I didn't compromise pretty nice impact of Dimsa. He's a nice average player with nice motor, hustle and heart. But NT is not a place to just credit average "fighters", NT is a place where we have to put pieces that gives us best chance to win. Dimsa and Normantas looked clueless defensively against Serbia. That the main game. I want us to have chances to win big games. IMO, the guy who showed that he can stop and strongly slow down elite EL guards, that's Giedraitis, deserves a spot more. Dimsa never showed that. He just showed solid D and offensive is some games. Giedraitis has elite skill - defense. And that's the difference. I take the player who has that elite skill and I need that against PR and not only that. I believe that going against Serbia, we have more chances with Giedraiti on the court because of his elite D and not with Dimsa who has no D against true agile guards and only slightly better offense (which is debatable).

Dimsa in LKL playoffs - 5.8ppg, 1.4apg, 5eff. Dovis - 4ppg, 2.6apg, 4.8eff.

Such a huge difference offensively...

And again no-one cares what was happening 1.5yo ago. Players in such span goes from meh to MVP levels. Take for example Sengun. Last season he was still well "meh", this season he already played at the all star level basically. It's about NOW (and a bit about future). Surely not about what was freakin' happening 1.5yo Marciulionis was riding the Gaels bench 1.5 years ago, now he would rip into two pieces Kariniauskas alive.

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You called him a scrub yes you did

Could tell which one from

Lekavicius,Jokubaitis,R.Giedraitis,Brazdeikis,Sirv ydis is better defenders than Dimsa?


Because it's seems Dimsa is worst defender ever reading your comment with which I disagree seeing our backourt players and seeing that his own coaches gives him assignments to defend leaders.


Heart of 2023 NT mediocre roster help them alot to reach top 8 first time in 7 years

Scrubs is those players who played in lkl 5-10 level teams all their career.Yes they dont deserve being in NT camp

Players that from youth was top 3 ltu tallent in his age group, player with multiple seasons in euroleague,multiple fiba tournaments and shown multiple times being better in some specific roles than some 10pts lithuania euroleague players no he is not a scrub and its not suprising that such player is invited to the camp

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Scrub to me is average player by all means. Dimsa is a scrub. He's essentially Eurocup level player. I talk about him cause Maksvytis said he took him instead of Giedraitis. IDK if Grigonis when he's fully on it is worse defender than Dimsa. I doubt. But you are right we also should talk about why the hell R. Giedraitis is needed when we already have Sirvydis? We we need so many offensive players? Giedraitis cut is just by all means is stupid, period. Both Dimsa and Giedraitis had to be in the camp. We don't need Grigonis, Sirvydis, R. Giedraitis in one camp. At least how I see it. I actually don't understand how R. Giedraitis is still in the NT after being complete trash in 2019, 2021, 2022 and missing 2023 for no reason. How many trashy tournament he needs more to be a gonner? This is ridiculous. We take a player to provide in fucking NT. That's the goal.

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I repeat why he took him because for 1,5 years Dimsa played better than D.Giedraitis in this coach systems thats why. Its very difficutl for you understand coaches logic?


DImsa and Smit is not so bad as last 4 months is showing in Trinchieri system . Such situations happens million times when players with new coach is loosing place in a team.


and you still talking about his defence like his total crap when our best guards is way worse thats funny and your argumentrs makes no sense


Somehow i never heard you talking about Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,Brazdeikis defences and how manny good guards they have slow down ?

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I repeat why he took him because for 1,5 years Dimsa played better than D.Giedraitis in this coach systems thats why. Its very difficutl for you understand coaches logic?


DImsa and Smit is not so bad as last 4 months is showing in Trinchieri system . Such situations happens million times when players with new coach is loosing place in a team.


and you still talking about his defence like his total crap when our best guards is way worse thats funny and your argumentrs makes no sense


Somehow i never heard you talking about Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,Brazdeikis defences and how manny good guards they have slow down ?

The problem is not that Dimsa in invited. The problem is that D. Giedraitis is not. Because the latter is the best perimeter defender in the country.

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18yo Nolan Traore is invited to the main camp of Olympic French NT. It only shows again how provincial we are. Serbia would show huge interest in 18yo Topic last summer, now France to 18yo Traore. While we fucking ride with Kariniauskas...Dead end province.

I will only remind you that Jakucionis was more efficient than Traore in ANGT finals with 32eff while Traore had 26. Traore has more explosive first step and is surely better athlete, but I don't treat Traore smarter and more fundamentally sound PG. Jakucionis is superior passer and most likely will be better shooter. Traore just has really great athleticism and ability to get to the rack.

My point is, there's no way LT provincial moron coaches (a la Maksvytis) would ever invite 18yo Topic/Traore/Jakucionis, even if there wouldn't be Jokubaitis. Not even if we talk about first round world class material prospects. And it's a huge problem. Cause it shows how provincial, conservative and narrow-minded we are when it comes to coaching and decision making. With each year I'm shivering with this attitude more and more.

I'm referring to the fact Marciulionis is forced to play with reserve NT second year in a row even if last summer already it was more than obvious that he deserved a ticket to the main camp. The same goes for Tubelis and so on. This summer Jakucionis can just play for U18, it's understood, but I'm talking about how our coaches ignore talent and slows down the development of NT. We are provincials in BB and it's sad. Only our talent always bailed us out. Starting with Rooney/Sabas and so on.

We need personalities as Kazlauslas who would be able to drag us off from provincial quag. The one with balls to take young talent and to properly evaluate our talent pool.

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The problem is not that Dimsa in invited. The problem is that D. Giedraitis is not. Because the latter is the best perimeter defender in the country.

With that i agree D.Giedraitis should have been invited to camp,not because with his supper passive offensive mindset he would be game changer,but because he is best small guard defender.

Both Dimsa and D.Giedraitis is role players for some matchups not game changers like you imagine and making so much noise like top 6 lithuanian wasnt invited


Picturing that Dimsa have no chance defending Puerturico midgets,but Jokubaitis,Sirvydis,R.Giedraitis will have thats simply nonsense.



If Lithuania will achieve good result like top 8 it must come from Jokubaitis and Grigonis on perimeter. They played in elite euroleague clubs every day.

Other perimeter candidates never shown real leading things on euroleague levels and in winning situations. Jokubaitis and Grigonis atleast had moments of that


Players that never shown before on highest levels and suddenly from nowhere will star showing on highest Olympic stage where best of best worlds perimeter stars will play? thats unrelistic and hoping for some miracle

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OK, so we agree on most things. Dovis is just a role player, true. But, again, in that particular game against PR, which will be led by 3 super dangerous midgets, he becomes SUPER important. And Maksvytis didn't see this, and that's stupid. Can we agree on that?

There's sill a path to fix that. To take Marciulionis who more or less is one the same tier with D. Giedraitis defensively, but has way more facilitation and pure play making skills. If Maksvytis foreseen this decision, I would say my bad, but knowing his attitude there's very little chance for Marciulionis. And Kazys made just way too many mistakes and some super dum decisions. I lost any belief in him and I think he is simply demoralized and super confused coach ATM.

I don't mention Joku, Sirvuha, R. Giedraitis, Kuzminskas (and even Grigonis is not very good defender) defence cause they are trashy defenders. Everybody knows that they are all about offense. What's to discuss here. My problem is that we have too many offensive wings in this team.

I don't expect miracles and big wins as I said. I just hope that Jokubaitis, Grigonis, Sirvuha will have good tournaments as guards. This would alone be pretty satisfactory and would give us a chance to be competitive even against the best team likely (competitive and being able to win are 2 different things).

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I agree with for Puerturico game and qualification D.Giedraitis looks needed more than Dimsa or R.Giedraitis or Sirvydis

Maksvytis was asked who will be defenders and he said something like: Arnas,Dimsa and added its not about just defence.


Maybe coach after 2 years coaching this team saw its impossible to have good defensive team when centers is bad defenders,guards is bad defenders ... I dont know what his motives are not including Giedraitis ,but i dont think he is idiot coach at all like you do


Seeing what and how coach/federation are talking,seeing they invited 4 huge centers in 15 candidate list for me is clear signs Valanciunas wont play in qualification.



last 10 minutes to go score is close and olympic ticket on the line im going with

Sabonis,Sedekerskis,Arnas,Grigonis,Jokubaitis 6th man Ulanovas (that could take either Arnas or Sedekerskis place in crunch minutes too)

thats my most ready battle tested proffesionals thats shouldnt lose their heads and gives our fans best chances to win and qualife to olympics


Dmo give Sabonis 8minute rest. Lukas gives Jokubaitis 8minute rest and after that im not sure about neither of our players maybe also Kuzminskas that i would trust in olympic deciding game in 15k wild hostile envirenment

But overall 8 max 9 man rotation that what good coaches does in elimination games


Thats who is main players and they will decide 2024 summer.All other are more less role players.Anything we will get from remaining players is a bonus.

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OK, I heard your arguments. But Maksvytis putting his ass into trouble thinking he can get away with merely offensive players. Besides I think he took that idea "best players should play" too trivially and primitively. He has to construct winning team and not to take biggest names.

In my opinion, in today's game particular match-ups should never be under-emphasized. Both PR and Italy are small ball teams. So emphasizing lumberjacks for qualification is plain stupid, unless our coaches are even more stupid than I think and didn't learn a dingle thing from Slovenia- LTU game in 2021. The narrative also was we will "smash them inside". Yeah, good luck with that. I think that players as D. Giedraitis and even Marciulionis could be very important in the game against PR. You just have to have pieces that you can throw in front of those midgets. Otherwise they will be dropping 20pts on you. Maksvytis probably doesn't realize that Howard was dropping 19.5ppg in EL, in freakin' EL. Yeah, inefficient 20pts, but, damn, to do that in EL, some business. You overemphasize that emotional factor. Maybe you wouldn't play Marciulionis in the second half of 4th quarter, but against those midgets with his LOCK DOWN defense and reliable handles he can easily be 20mpg player, the same Jokubaitis could play together with him in some stretches and Grigonis to move to 3 (where he is not that bad defender). I do believe Ulanovas should play entirely 4 against PR and Italy and Sedekerskis should face some 5 position time. Thus way we would have pretty good D and pretty good O. So 2 way punch.

Maksvytis should watch this to understand what is waiting for him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5TO2AxmUk&ab_channel=NBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGGCbBFLDjE&ab_channel=TOPBASKETBALLHIGHLIGHTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrXsuw1jyA&ab_channel=FIBA-TheBasketballChannel

PS: One thing shouldn't be overlooked. Sirvydis can bomb the hell out of any team in a good day as well. His mentality is good for it. He doesn't care what kind of game is that. He doesn't have R. Giedraitis mentality. So I wouldn't underrate Sirvydis as well. I think he might surprise. He's getting better and better.