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  • European/Lithuanian fans in theory have to wish and support Usa,France,Australia,Canada that they would make semifinal teams

    Problem draw bracket do not allow that to be the case.

    One from Serbia/Italy/Greece/Montenegro/Lithuania will be in semifinal.


    Very good chances that one from those 5 teams will get direct place to Olympics if 3 of 4 non european giants+Olympic host France will do their job till semifinal


    If LTU 2019-2022 roster would been playing i would have real hopes making semifinal seeing this good draw for us

    But with this 2023 mediocre roster and how they looked so far even favourable draw unlikely to help
    Last edited by Shawshank; 08-22-2023, 08:37 AM.

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    • That is true. At least we have a decent shot to fight for direct Olympic ticket. That's without Sabonis, Grigonis, Lekavicius, Butkevicius, Ulanovas, R. Giedraitis. Half of the roster. It's funny, but we even have some chances to get to semis. I mean Serbia and Italy are strong, but they are not at USA, France, Australia level. Not even close. Serbia with Bogdanovic is still strong, but not exactly elite NT, specially knowing their mental lapses. If we get to 4finals (which is complete gamble - we can win and lose easily against better teams), it will be a fight nevertheless (us being underdogs against Serbia off course).

      I can't decide whenever we are underdogs against Greece (probably 50/50 is fair, but I think Greece's defense gives them an edge). I treat us slight favorites against Montenegro.

      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • Points per game in friendly games:

        Valanciunas 15,6pts
        Kuzminskas 10,3pts
        Jokubaitis 10,1pts
        Brazdeikis 10,0pts
        Bendzius 9,4pts
        Motiejunas 8,1pts

        Sirvydis 5,9pts
        Kariniauskas 5,2pts
        Normantas 4,8pts
        Sedekerskis 4,5pts
        Dimsa 4,5pts

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        • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
          I can't decide whenever we are underdogs against Greece (probably 50/50 is fair, but I think Greece's defense gives them an edge).
          You are the favorites. Believe me.


          You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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          • Lithuania got more offensive firepower than this Greek squad. I think the game will resemble the 2017 Gre-Ltu matchup but from the opposite side, as Lithuania got more individual talent there.
            1997 - 2012 - 2013

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            • Greeks gonna say Liths are favourites ,Lithuanian says Greeks are favourites .Old trick trying to put all the pressure on opponnets


              According to vikipedia

              LTU NT 2023 have 1 nba player and 5 euroleague players

              Greece NT 2023 have 1 nba player and 9 euroleague players


              and somehow Greece is underdogs in that game ?
              Last edited by Shawshank; 08-22-2023, 08:38 PM.

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              • There's a big difference in who's the NBA player in both teams and you also need to understand that LTU is the favorite for me because they got more individual quality in a couple of players like Valanciunas, D-Mo and Brazdeikis. Meanwhile the only single guy who can pull of scoring in this Greek squad is probably Rogkavopoulos.
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                • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
                  I'm becoming the sceptic of Maksvytis. Hoped that he would develop into something solid, but I'm starting to doubt this. Same old scrub's mentality.... He didn't learn a single thing from 22 when he totally wasted 2 spots with Zemaitis and Zukauskas.
                  Let me point out the not insignificant detail that both Kristupas Žemaitis and Eigirdas Žukauskas actually earned invitations to the Lithuanian team camp last summer:

                  Kristupas Žemaitis 2021-22

                  COMPETITION GAMES MINUTES EFFICIENCY
                  Eurocup 19 24:44 11.3
                  World Cup Qualifying Tournament 6 12:20 2.3





                  And may I remind you that Žemaitis was the starting PG on that 2022 Lietkabelis team that cruised past Žalgiris in an LKL semifinal and finished as league runners-up?

                  Eigirdas Žukauskas 2021-22

                  COMPETITION GAMES MINUTES EFFICIENCY
                  BCL 5 9:46 2.6
                  World Cup Qualifying Tournament 9 18:06 7.0





                  They then outperformed several other candidates at training camp and won spots on the team.

                  You instead would have had Coach Maksvytis select your personal favourites in their place strictly on the basis of your say-so "My guys are just better!" In some fantasy world of yours perhaps....

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                  • Originally posted by R1ou View Post
                    There's a big difference in who's the NBA player in both teams and you also need to understand that LTU is the favorite for me because they got more individual quality in a couple of players like Valanciunas, D-Mo and Brazdeikis. Meanwhile the only single guy who can pull of scoring in this Greek squad is probably Rogkavopoulos.
                    Centers is not deciding factor in 2020s basketball that Lithuania have best center is not game changer

                    It's way more important who has best guards .Guards play is deciding factor when 3 minutes left and score is tied

                    That's why Greece won in 2017 they had best guard in that game

                    Clubs of players doesn't support your logic that Greek is weaker

                    In Lithuania podcasts experts agrees american Walkup is highest quality overall guard from these two rosters

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                    Last edited by Shawshank; 08-23-2023, 06:35 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                      Centers is not deciding factor in 2020s basketball that Lithuania have best center is not game changer
                      If you have black hole in defense under the rim its an issue believe me.

                      Originally posted by Shawshank View Post

                      It's way more important who has best guards .Guards play is deciding factor when 3 minutes left and score is tied​
                      Yes this kind of guards we have with Air Moraitis and Magic Bochoridis in our roster.
                      I noticed that Θομας Βολκαποπουλος (Thomas Walkupopoulos) has a problem with ball handling under pressure. He gives everything but it is his first FIBA tournament. Usually even good players need one tournament to adapt and reach their top performance.
                      You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                      • What I take from the camp/exhibition stage are these main things:

                        - I can see that Jokubaitis is obviously better than last summer. It is felt very clearly. He doesn't even have to score a lot to impact the game tremendously.

                        - I can't decide whenever is Iggy better than last year. He's not in his 100% shape yet, but I feel like Jokubaitis made big step forward while I can't say the same about Iggy.

                        - Sirvydis dealt with short stretches nicely. He's more effective than R. Giedraitis. If he can keep it up in WC it's a great news now and long term. You always need quality role players. His defensive effort is surprising as well. It's good that his mental state is always the same. When R. Giedraitis misses first shot, it's a game over. Sirvydis can air ball one crazy shot, but then make another from better look.

                        - I was thinking about the worst player from guards in WC and I think Kariniauskas is the worst. I treat Vasiliauskas and Gustas better than him. Those could control the team better. Also Maldunas is on the same tier with Andriuskevicius. However you look Maksvytis taste for players is not good. Cizauskas, Zemaitis, Zukauskas, Kariniauskas, Maldunas. No other coach could bring so many scrubs to the NT in 2 years.
                        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                        Buzelis, Lelevicius
                        Murauskas, Sirvydis
                        Tubelis, Krivas

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                        • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
                          However you look Maksvytis taste for players is not good. Cizauskas, Zemaitis, Zukauskas, Kariniauskas, Maldunas. No other coach could bring so many scrubs to the NT in 2 years.


                          More mindless over-the-top abuse instead of reasoned analysis.

                          Last edited by Hepcat; 08-24-2023, 04:56 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                            Centers is not deciding factor in 2020s basketball that Lithuania have best center is not game changer

                            It's way more important who has best guards .Guards play is deciding factor when 3 minutes left and score is tied

                            That's why Greece won in 2017 they had best guard in that game
                            There is indeed a large amount of truth in what you say. Team Lietuva has lost far too many games recently because of a low three point shooting % or a terrible turnovers/steals ratio.

                            But there's still a lot to be said for dominating the boards. That's why FIBA includes offensive versus defensive rebounds, second chance points and points in the paint in its game stats package.



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                            • lithuania is just cursed with this 3p shooting

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                              • jokubaitis looks horrible, there is no excuse for this playing against egypt

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