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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    I think you also miss one important thing - this 20s generation is different. There's more counting and caring about careers. What Marciulionis did in 1996 is complete insanity even in 1996, but now it's even absolutely unimaginable. Or like Javtokas played with bad ankles. Current generation won't go for it. Time to realize time's are different, time's changing for the worst in that matter. Balciunas has zero chances to change that. Sabonis BTW too...
    M_GAts...

    Saras Macas Kaukenas Songaila
    The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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    • I sincerely think that coaches and players relations is the key. There's little doubt that R. Giedraitis took some grunge when Adomaitis made him a tourist in 2019. In 2021 he basically sitting on the bench and in 2022 played a bit more, but, again, probably wanted more. To me it's pretty obvious why Giedratisi skipping NT being completely healthy.

      But most importantly about Sedekerskis...Terrific game last night BTW, 21eff points, strong slashing to the basket, a three, assists, blocks, rebounds. Sedekerskis BTW is 5th most efficient player in Baskonia with 12eff. His story so far is wild in the NT and it's coaches decision (responsibility). What we have is that Maskoliunas sacked him and took 3 non-EL players - Bendzius, Masiulis, Dimsa. One year later, Maksvytis sacked him and took 3 non-EL player who will never play in EL. Zemaitis, Zukauskas, Echodas. TBH I completely understand why Sedekerskis didn't want to come to the main camp and I understand completely why he's hesitant about coming to the NT. He is legit EL player, legit. And NT just cuts you again and again for scrubs. I totally understand Sedekerskis.

      Kulboka is different case. He never proved or even played in EL.

      Here's Sedekerskis balling. As I mentioned, slowly he's becoming one of the best combo forwards in Europe. Still only 25yo. Big seasons ahead of him if he will stay healthy:

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      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • I dont blame Balciunas federation for difficult personas like DMo or Ulanovas not helping NT


        But under Sabonis federation Grigonis,Lekavicius,Giedraitis never said no to NT.

        Its not just about diffrent generation,same players always played before and for Balciunas federation all 3 of them at same summer said no.

        Adding strange situations with Sedekerskis and Kulboka in just 2 years something aint right going on here with players behind beatitful Balciunas media presentations



        According to head coach those 4 who is out can be not the last ones that is not playing this summer too...

        If balciunas federation will manage to get like 4 players form top 10 just awful job with shown attention to best ltu players
        Last edited by Shawshank; 05-28-2023, 09:09 AM.

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        • Long time NT captain Javtokas put finger on same thing why bunch of NT players decline invitation that wasnt doing that under Sabonis

          No strong leader that players themselfs has huge respect for

          Same Javtokas could do that convincing work for federation,not those Balciunas office workers that players have zero respect for



          But overall i like that former NT players comming to media and telling harsh things and shame todays NT players

          Kleiza said: tired? how manny medals they won for lithuania to be tired ? best ltu players comming from america and zalgiris lithuanians is tired?

          Lietkabelis fans shouts to Ulanovas: draskykis rinktinei,ne lkle


          If federation,former players,fans wont react to such situations when healthy players is not helping NT now it will end badly long run.We cant allow see such examples for todays 10 old kids that will be future NT players in 2038.

          I dont mind seeing Ulanovas being boo in lkl arenas not because he would change his mind,but as example for future players that they would know what to expect if player do not pay his dues to your country with no reasons
          Last edited by Shawshank; 05-30-2023, 08:30 AM.

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          • Yeah, it's good that there's a big response to that. It will surely make impact.

            Javtokas on other hand contradicted himself. He talked about how Sabonis would make impact, but also he said "Kokio demesio? Mane vemti vercia tai girdint. Ko jam reikia? Kad treneris paskambintu? As zinodavau, kad esu kvieciams i rinktine, ir viskas" (ne pažodžiui).

            Enough said. Yeah, maybe Sabonis from time to time would make a difference with pressure, but it's not about the lack of attention from federation. It's a question of shifting attitude. Lekavicius could easily get 3-4 free days when his wife will be delivering and to come back to the camp.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • We can only conclude that glorious 1992 generation generated only 2 long term pieces - Valanciunas and Butkevicius.

              That's all...Others winners and underperformers.
              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
              Buzelis, Lelevicius
              Murauskas, Sirvydis
              Tubelis, Krivas

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              • Its 3 pieces.That Ulanovas is selfish dude that it doesnt take away that he objectively is top 10 ltu player right now.


                3 top 10 players from same year its fantastic result.

                Goodluck finding one year where they have more than 3 in top 10 ltu players list .


                Same generation is not just players who is born in that on year.It players group who is 3-4 years in age diffrence and is winning players at same time

                .Jasikevicius,Kaukenas,Siskauskas,Brothers,Macijau skas they are same generation born in 1976-1980
                Last edited by Shawshank; 05-30-2023, 12:59 PM.

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                • Curent top 10 ltu players

                  1.Sabonis 1996
                  2.Valanciunas 1992
                  3.Grigonis 1994
                  4.Ulanovas 1992
                  5.Jokubaitis 2000
                  6.Butkevicius 1992
                  7.Brazdeikis 1999

                  after that is debatable and not so clear who is 8,9 or 10th best. Non counting 1992 which age year have atleast 2 players in top 10?

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                  • No, I only concerned with NT at this point. R. Giedraitis is the best EL player statistically, but he has been trash in NT. Ulanovas only had mediocre 2017 and 2019 performances, not exactly long term piece. Only JV and now Butkevicius (2019, 2021, 2022 and about to play in 2023) earned respect and love.

                    More like:

                    Sabonis,
                    Valanciunas,
                    Grigonis/Jokubaitis

                    and everyone else

                    that's the hierarchy today
                    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                    Buzelis, Lelevicius
                    Murauskas, Sirvydis
                    Tubelis, Krivas

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                    • All im saying it sounds blind hating to trash ltu most productive year in top 10 players and won most kids medals

                      Even looking a NT players i still dont see better year.

                      Which year in 1990-2000 decade gave more tallents to NT than 1992?

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                      • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                        All im saying it sounds blind hating to trash ltu most productive year in top 10 players and won most kids medals

                        Even looking a NT players i still dont see better year.

                        Which year in 1990-2000 decade gave more tallents to NT than 1992?
                        No-one is trashing. I wrote sincerely that this generation is glorious. 4 freakin' gold medals. Best LTU youth NT ever. Just saying that relatively the outcome and transition to the senior NT has been disappointed. FOA, JV didn't turn out to be absolute monster as many people hoped (including me). He looked transcendent with his light legs and athletic, aware skill in 2011, but later became traditional lumberjack. And second most impactful player after JV is Butkevicius. To me it's disappointing. No medals came from this generation. 2015 was still more about Maciulis, Kalnietis.

                        No doubt it will be hard to repeat what 1992 generation did at U-level. But 2006 generation with Jakucionis, Indusaitis, Laurencikas (and others) have a shot. I don't know if they can take down USA in U19, but it's not entirely off possibility. JV's length and skill at youth level was relentless. USA bigs in U19 looked like puppies.
                        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                        Buzelis, Lelevicius
                        Murauskas, Sirvydis
                        Tubelis, Krivas

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                        • https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/status/1664477070557315072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1664477070557315072%7Ctwgr% 5E0caaf5eb4c5d3aff83975839f84b623c4b1bed86%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshype.com%2Frumor s%2F

                          I thought Domas already did his surgery.But no, one month after season ended he and his staff trying to heal hand without surgery.

                          Problem now if surgery will be needed in middle of june he definetely will be out from NT.
                          Last edited by Shawshank; 06-02-2023, 06:46 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                            https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/s...om%2Frumors%2F

                            I thought Domas already did his surgery.But no one month after season ended he and his staff trying to heal hand without surgery.

                            Problem now if surgery will be needed in middle of june he definetely will be out from NT.
                            No indication that the surgery will be needed. More it's about the timing when the thumb will completely heal naturally. IMO, that's good news. He doesn't say no. He says I'm there if healthy.

                            If we pack Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis (better body language yesterday), Butkevicius, Sedekerskis, Sabonis we still have a solid all EL starting line-up + All NBA Sabonis. And there's Valanciunas coming from the bench as the key second line-up piece.

                            We would still have a solid team in this case.
                            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                            Buzelis, Lelevicius
                            Murauskas, Sirvydis
                            Tubelis, Krivas

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                            • After 3 months playing with broken bone in hand,its high possibility to damaging it more playing contact sport and healing naturally can take forever after that and nba organisation wont allow his star player play if he isnt healed like 120%


                              I would rather hear he did surgery in may and by middle july it was time to do all rehab

                              Now if naturally healing wont work he is done for summer

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                              • Normantas may not look sexy, but if Brazdeikis is out, he's top-12, honest minutes of defense from bench material

                                Hopefully semifinals loss will change Giedraitis' decision

                                Worst case starting 5 material: 5 Valanciunas, 4/3 Kuzminskas, 3/2 Butkevicius, 1 Jokubaitis and 4 Sedekerskis/ 2 Dimša
                                The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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