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  • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

    Well, it doesn't work like that with Canada. In 2021 OQ Canada also had Wiggins, Barrert,Alexander- Walker, but more fluid and team orientated Czech Rep. beat Canada. And Czech Rep. is not on Lithuania's level, specially when we speak about 2023 Lithuania which is growing team. I'm not saying Lithuania can surely match fully packed Canada. I'm saying that their holistic unity is less than the sum of their individuals, while Lithuania may be the greatest example in the world (or at least in many tournaments was) of vice versa. If Canada has absolutely packed roster I will treat them favorites, if not then Lithuania. Canada will have the same problems as previously. Their stars never played together basically and they don't even know how Canada NT usually play. They have no identity.

    Well... that is why Canada is building their "CORE 14" Project that will make up of players who will commit for them long term... They learned their lesson after past mistake that they copy American style of involvement of building national team program that it will not work unless if you are team USA that has so many talents to choose.... Let's see...

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    • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
      for me is simple

      7 teams from first 2 pots + Canada,Greece is elite teams that any games with them is 50/50 (best case scenerio)


      2 round groups that will get 3 teams from those 9 this is bad ,unlucky draw and one really good team going home early


      2 round group that will get 2 teams from top 9 = good draw


      In order to make 1/4 game in most champs LTU didnt need to beat semifinal team.

      It was enough to beat Chech,Turkey,Brasil level team to make 1/4 game not Aus/Fra/Spain powerhouse just to make 1/4 game


      In 1/4 sure elite team should be opponent,but when we get elite powerhouse opponent already in 1/8 stage this is bad draw
      This edition is more tougher than 2019 edition... Dominican Rep w/ KAT (and maybe Horford) , Finland and even Latvia can surprise in a good day.... And many countries who will participate this summer atleast have a NBA player (some of them are having roles for their respective teams) can give a positive impact for their team and give the heavy favorites a big fight.... Don't count them out...

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      • Draw for LTU NT is not perfect,but when i see Latvia road i wont cry

        Serbia and Italy got open road to 1/4 once again hosts gets ridiculous easy groups is draw rigged or how its repeating?


        Serbia,Italy ---> 1/4

        Usa---> 1/4
        LTU vs Greece game for place in 1/4

        Aus,Slo,Germ will fight out for 2 spots --> 1/4

        Esp,Bra,Fra,Canada,Latvia for 2 spots --> 1/4


        When NT coaches will choose 10-12th players my desicion is strongly biased on matchup versus Greece.

        NT dont beat Greece other games dont mean nothing we are not making 1/4 again


        We gonna face motivated and rested Giannis after nba playoofs

        100% NT must take 3 real centers for that game,he will put our frontcourt in faul trouble

        Gudaitis/Dmo one of them must be taken just for that game and like Czechs built 2 center defensive wall,because greeks like lithuania is bad shooting NT


        non shooting Jv+Domas vs non shooting Giannis,Calathes fair 50/50 regby type brick festival game
        Last edited by Shawshank; 04-29-2023, 01:17 PM.

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        • Well, to some up, another bad draw for us... FOA, there's USA in the second round and that means our most likely chance is to take second spot in the second round group J. Meaning that we facing I group first team which most likely will be Serbia (or Italy).

          So most likely we fighting with Greece for the 4finals ticket and in the 4finals we get Serbia...Tough road to semis (in semis much harder to predict can be anyone from Australia, Slovenia, Germany, Spain, France, Canada).

          On other hand, as Eurobasket 2022 showed, and even 2019 WC where USA sucked, surprises always coming. I don't think we shouldn't take USA game seriously. I wouldn't be shocked if USA going down once against either Greece or Lithuania in the group J. Depends what kind of players their bring.

          But, again, tough draw...Only first group is pretty easy.

          Maybe the positive is that both Greece and Serbia are better than say USA, France or even Spain, Australia if you ask me. I don't fear Slovenia all that much somehow. It's illogical, but I think we'll be better, they will barely...Greece and Serbia are better fit for us as contenders than smaller (more guard orientated) teams.
          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
          Buzelis, Lelevicius
          Murauskas, Sirvydis
          Tubelis, Krivas

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          • It seems you will fight against the Greeks. JV vs Giannis will be interesting if you consider him to block the paint it wont be easy for Giannis. Sloukas cant play for very long times and Calathes defense became trash. Still creating in offense Greece has the upper hand. If your backcourt defends better than in Eurobasket it will be a fierce fight.

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            • When you think about 2014 WC, we got freakin' New Zealand in 16finals and Turkey in 4finals (very mediocre at that time). And off course we won both rather comfortably not even having main PG - Kalnietis. Now we gonna face Greece as key game for "16 finals" and likely fighting absolutely stacked Serbia in 4finals. What a good times 2014 it was

              As for Greece vs Lithuania I think it's more or less 50:50. I would even claim that knowing potential improvement of Sabonis, Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis (3 of key players) prevails against potential Greek improvements. Actually Calathes, Papanikolou, Sloukas might even decline some, at least possibility knowing their age. Giannis already played to his maximum in EB, I don't think he can play much better than that. Maybe Dorsey can have even better tournament? I would say Lithuania is much more growing team, but still 50:50.
              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
              Buzelis, Lelevicius
              Murauskas, Sirvydis
              Tubelis, Krivas

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              • The last (very deep) positive is that if Lithuania is very good somehow, there's no best team USA in our way till the finals...Theoretically we have the best chances to reach WC finals ever In 2010 USA stopped us in semis. The same happened in 2014. Now the finals awaits for us
                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                Tubelis, Krivas

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                • USA stopping us in semis 1992, 2000, 2004, 2010, 2014.

                  Not this time mother fuckers!
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • Lithuania vs Usa game will happen after 9 years break. Good thing its in group not playoofs


                    LTU road to semifinal

                    beat Greece in group and beat Serbia in 1/4


                    Im loading NT lineup in 10-12 bench players for 2023 tournament with physical bigs over small ball players.

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                    • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                      Lithuania vs Usa game will happen after 9 years break. Good thing its in group not playoofs


                      LTU road to semifinal

                      No shit! really? Thanks for new info...

                      beat Greece in group and beat Serbia in 1/4


                      No shit! really? Thanks for new info...

                      Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                      Im loading NT lineup in 10-12 bench players for 2023 tournament with physical bigs over small ball players.
                      It's not about centers when it comes to Giannis defence. Czeck Rep provided best effort. Greeks usually play Giannis at 4 and Papagiannis at 5. So PF defends (meets) Giannis at the perimeter, but from each side comes help, be it SF and SG or SF and PG. So Greeks build three men wall and closes the driving paths of Giannis. They give them three pointer if he wants, but you don't allow him to get inside. Giannis shot 20% threes in Eurobasket. The key is to slow down Giannis transition offense (totally unstoppable) and in the set offense to build a wall with constant help defense. So Imagine Sedekerskis or Sabonis guarding Giannis at 4, then Butkevicius and Ulanovas build the three men almost straight wall line of defense. It's very important that help defense would be quality. These three guys surely can do it. That's the key. 1-4 positions are the key to guard Giannis. If he will get deep to the post it's basically over.
                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • Team need suround him with 2-3 people all the time and big waiting inside and risk with greeks bad shooters wont have good shooting day.

                        Czechs eliminated greece in 2019 doing that and was very close eliminating them doing same thing in 2022 playing 2m16 Balwin and 2m12 Vesely together and shuting any possibilities for easy layups and forcing greeks make 20+ jumpers to win


                        1m98 Butkevicius and 1m99 Ulanovas will look in front of Giannis like they yesterday looked defending Vesely 26pts and Mirotic 22pts in the post

                        For Giannis size dude bigger and stronger artilerry is needed.to suround him like Valanciunas,Sabonis Gudaitis,Sedekerskis



                        Plan B is do what Germany did when they made like 20 3pointers and outscored Greece with 100pts .performance

                        LTU roster is way closer to what Czech did than what Germany did in 2022

                        Game plan is already shown what works with Giannis and Greece suspect shooting NT​
                        Last edited by Shawshank; 04-29-2023, 04:57 PM.

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                        • Coach said he already knows that some players who played in eurobasket 2022 wont play in 2023

                          How coach said its sounded it will be more than one. "bus netekciu" it means somebody from main players already informed coach about not comming


                          R.Giedraitis wont play most likely but who else?


                          I just hope it wont be Grigonis because of his back problems and Sabonis because of that hand surgery
                          Last edited by Shawshank; 04-29-2023, 05:27 PM.

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                          • Did he say something to imply that he wasn't talking about Echodas Zukauskas Zemaitis?
                            The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                            • In my lithuania language understanding word *netektis* doesnt go together to Echodas,Zukauskas,Zemaitis meaning to NT


                              But maybe your text understanding is better.



                              Dinosour expert would go crazy if after all that waiting,written off Jonas for 187th time Domas informed coach he will do rehab this summer and JV will play even more

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                              • Giedraitis for sure. Then I think it might be Grigonis cause Maksvytis emotion was like it will be serious losses. Also I kinda feel Lekavicius might skip it somehow. Might be about family. Sabonis already said he's in if his hand will allow him, so it's definitely not Sabonis at least yet, cause he's still playing. His answer will be clear after the season, surgery and rehab time.

                                Maybe JV because of all the disturbances in his family? Just a joke...
                                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                                Tubelis, Krivas

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