2023 Lithuanian NT

[Straight forward]

Oh come on!

Granted you have a point when you suggest selecting promising youngsters for "meaningless" games, but all you accomplish with your harsh denunciations of Kemzūra and other national team coaches is undermining your own point. Both the LKF and most Lithuanian basketball fans want, in fact, demand that Kemzūra assemble a team that will win its games. That's the bottom line.

OK, It's just my assumption. Kemzura doesn't have a club, so for him it's a good chance to show himself. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he doesn't care about it, IDK. But Kemzura already did what was asked, he could easily experiment with youngsters more. Any, let's move on. Maybe this time we'll be competitive against France.

[Shawshank]

Coaches of NT thinks: what kinda players we should invite that would be usefull for 2023 summer NT camp and would give us best chance to win window games in february

Dinosour expert thinks: coaches must invited raw tallents 2023 for 2 window games who maybe will play help NT win games in 2027.


No wonder they dont see eye to eye

[Straight forward]

Coaches of NT thinks: what kinda players we should invite that would be usefull for 2023 summer NT camp and would give us best chance to win window games in february

Dinosour expert thinks: coaches must invited raw tallents 2023 for 2 window games who maybe will play help NT win games in 2027.


No wonder they dont see eye to eye

Useful for 2023 summer? Really? You're having a long weekend already don't you? 70-80% of the roster's players have zero chances to be useful in summer.

And, no, even Kemzura took a bit of a long term look, taking Rubstavicius. He greeted him for his job in his previous camp and long term he's a top SG prospect for us.

And lastly look at France roster f.e. Begarin 20, Hugo Benitez 21, Cazalon 21, Kamagate 22, Makoundou 22, Wemby 19. Except Wemby none of these have chances to make France WC roster. Simply France goes with much younger team cause it's a good opportunity to test young players.

BTW, R. Giedraitis expressed doubts about participating in WC 23. I didn't read the exact formulation why, but obviously he has doubts.

[Hepcat]

So I decided to have a look at the updated stats Wikipedia entry for "Lithuanian Men's National Basketball Team". Someone has been "helpful" enough to update the current Depth Chart for the team:

Depth Chart

Position	Starting 5	Bench 1	Bench 2	Bench 3	Bench 4
C	Domantas Sabonis	Jonas Valančiūnas	Donatas Motiejūnas	Artūras Gudaitis	Laurynas Birutis
PF	Mindaugas Kuzminskas	Tadas Sedekerskis	Arnoldas Kulboka	Ą?uolas Tubelis	Eigirdas ?ukauskas
SF	Edgaras Ulanovas	Ignas Brazdeikis	Arnas Butkevičius	Matas Buzelis	Eimantas Bend?ius
SG	Rokas Giedraitis	Marius Grigonis	Tomas Dim?a	Deividas Sirvydis	Paulius Valinskas
PG	Rokas Jokubaitis	Lukas Lekavičius	Dovydas Giedraitis	Arnas Velička	Kristupas ?emaitis

I have to conclude that a few player agents may have been involved in the latest update because there's a lot of, to put it kindly, wishful thinking.

CENTER: Not much problem there although if I were betting I'd have my money on Valančiūnas taking the floor at C for the opening tip-off this summer.

PF: Admittedly there's now a very serious problem at PF if Kuzminskas heads up the depth chart at this position. Bend?ius though should be somewhere on the list as should Gytis Masiulis. Kulboka can't be any higher than fifth. Tubelis shouldn't be on the list at all right now because he has yet to play professionally and depth charts are by definition a reflection of right now as opposed to three to five years from now.

SF: Ulanovas and Kuzminskas should perhaps switch positions. Ulanovas has more of a power game than Kuzminskas. Buzelis is right out of high school and has no business on a current depth chart. Bend?ius plays PF.

SG: Valinskas? Didn't his very brief moment in the limelight end several years ago? And Sirvydis should be no higher than fifth.

PG: Giedraitis third on the depth chart? He's gone from being an occasionally effective sixth man for Lietkabelis last year to being simply lousy with ?algiris this year. Only in his mother's and press agent's minds can he be anywhere on the PG depth chart right now. Who should be occupying the third to fifth place slots on the depth chart then? Well Velička, ?emaitis, Margiris Normantas and Vaidas Kariniauskas have all been picked by Coach Kemzūra for the upcoming February window. We'll see who's picked to start and how effectively they all play.

Replacements for the dropped prospects can come from Gytis Radzevičius, Mantas Rubstavičius, Matas Jogėla, Masiulis, Normantas and Kariniauskas. Why these names? Because they're Coach Kemzūra's choices for the upcoming window so clearly they're on the LKF's depth chart.

Incidentally, did you have anything to do with these Wiki entries, Straight Forward? Given the inclusion of many of the prospects you've been heavily touting, e.g. Arnoldas Kulboka, Ą?uolas Tubelis, Matas Buzelis, Dovydas Giedraitis, it makes me wonder.

[Straight forward]

It's not my depth chart.

[Hepcat]

I'm surprised that everyone including Coach Kemzūra is still ignoring Martynas Varna and Edvinas Šeškus given the seasons they're having with Šiauliai and Jonava respectively.

[LuDux]

Incidentally, did you have anything to do with these Wiki entries, Straight Forward? Given the inclusion of many of the prospects you've been heavily touting, e.g. Arnoldas Kulboka, Ą?uolas Tubelis, Matas Buzelis, Dovydas Giedraitis, it makes me wonder.

Definitely not SF, I know because Sirvydis is not 2nd amongst PFs

Also Normantas more SG/SF this year

[Straight forward]

Definitely not SF, I know because Sirvydis is not 2nd amongst PFs

Finally you pulled it off. This one was funny.

[Shawshank]

Arnas and Ule is their total peak right now and will be here 1-2 years and athletic decline will start

Such maturity,such toughness both mental and physical,such basketball iq and fantastic anticipation in plays that will happen.

Every time Cbet was making run those 2 were making critical plays again and again on both sides.

When playoofs games comes i trust in those 2 more than in way more tallented Brazdeikis/Grigonis at this moment in time

They not always scores alot,but i cant recall games where they was hurting their team with their presence overall.

Knowing that they always are assigned to defend opponents leaders that says alot.



ps. Cbet wont die huge respect for them irreveleant how game will finish

[Straight forward]

This kind of Ulanovas would be very meaningful piece for NT. He would help a lot. You can visually see that he's in his best shape physically and BB shape wise too. The problem is that his motivation to play for the NT has been weak basically always and it's a question how long he can sustain this (some minor injury can disrupt all this). But if he will be in such shape in WC, that's really good news.

[Hepcat]

Arnas and Ule is their total peak right now and will be here 1-2 years and athletic decline will start

Such maturity,such toughness both mental and physical,such basketball iq and fantastic anticipation in plays that will happen.

I agree.

Cbet wont die huge respect for them irreveleant how game will finish

And Edvinas Šeškus came up big again in CBet's biggest game of the year!

[Straight forward]

Tarolis in, Velicka, Masiulis - out. It's truning into one ugly and meaningless FIBA window.

[Shawshank]

Kemzura said Kuzminskas and Bendzius is better basketball players today than same position Kulboka.

After that reported asked what Kulboka needs to do to make the team? coach : 5 seconds pause and you fans see only stats,lets invite Cbet club to represent lithuanian if just go by stats and no concepts in what atmosphere those stats comes from ...

Coaches saw everybody in Nt last summer in 2 diffrent camps and i refuse to believe that coaches are inviting not the best players. They inviting players that they think can help most in tommorows game


Fans imagine they know better after watching some highlights and coaches who saw everybody under close door playing each other are some cluesless donkeys

[Hepcat]

Tarolis in, Velicka, Masiulis - out. It's truning into one ugly and meaningless FIBA window.

I would have liked to have seen what Arnas Velička could bring to the court but Gytis Masiulis isn't really a mystery anymore.

After that reported asked what Kulboka needs to do to make the team? coach : 5 seconds pause....

I'm wondering whether Arnoldas Kulboka is a liability on defence.

[LuDux]

Kemzura said Kuzminskas and Bendzius is better basketball players today than same position Kulboka.

He didn't say that, at least in interview to krepsinis.net