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  • OK, so what made Kings the best offensive team in NBA? 3 things:

    ISO scorer (Fox), Sabonis, shooting wings.

    Well, obviously we won't have such player as Fox, but (I'll get later to it)... But let's speculate for a minute whenever NT will ever utilize Sabonis to the fullest.

    ATM, the problem is clear. We have only Grigonis as a shooter. Our forwards are non offensive and limited in terms of shooting (Uke, Butkevicius). Jokubaitis is not a great shooter too, but Fox also is not a great shooter. What Fox does is getting inside super well, creating all sorts of problems. The good news that Jokubaitis is also a strong slasher and great decision maker. We seen some flashes of good chemistry between Jokubaitis and Sabonis last summer and that is promising.

    Now can we get shooting wings? Well, I don't see anyone as good as Kevin Huerter coming, but there's some good pieces coming.

    FOA, Rubstavicius. I have no doubt he'll be terrific shooter and he's brilliant off ball player. He is a better off ball shooter even than Grigonis (well, he will be). He utilizes the space perfectly, constantly moving without the ball and he doesn't need much space and time to set his shot. Perfect piece around Domas. (Later on, I think Indrusaitis will be more or less similar, with more ISO game, but Domas and Indrusaitis won't play many tournaments together duo to age difference).


    Murauskas showed this season that he can be very effective off ball scorer/shooter. It was a surprise cause I always imagined him as ballhog, ISO scorer. And he has that a lot in him. Nevertheless this season he shows how flexible he is and he embraced that off ball shooter's role for Lietkabelis willingly and PRO. Murauskas will be able to do all sorts of things, including spot on off the ball movement/shooting. Good fit, even if Murauskas himself probably would like to be a guy with the ball more. The good news that he can adapt to different situations.

    And then off course Buzelis. He is super versatile and essentially team player so I hope we can find proper fit of playing Domas centric BB and allowing Buzelis to be creator and one of the main protagonists offensively as well. In other words, in Buzelis you have a piece that you can build around at 3 as point forward. Can dominant point forward and point center co-exist in positive way? I sure hope so. I think here the good news most LTU players are naturally willing to make adjustments to the benefit of the team. My optimism comes from the fact that Buzelis is showing some unguardable catch and shoot presence here and there. If Buzelis turns out to be really reliable shooters with his 6'10 size, look out. We would see plenty of open shots. But then again, we can't reduce Buzelis to off ball kinda player. He's too gifted for that. Once he will be ready, it will be huge science how to utilize Domas and Buzelis together. Nevertheless, it should be great chemistry hopefully as Buzelis can do it all - Shoot, handle, drive, cut, facilitate.

    Sirvydis is another perfect fir for Domas. Sirvydis is off the ball catch and shoot kind wing. He's a good cutter too, so I think they would find pretty good chemistry. As well as D. Giedraitis should be a nice fit too. And if Lelevicius can fix his accuracy (accuracy is the only problem I have with him), he's absolutely brilliant fit next Domas. I see all these 3 players as a role players more, even if Lelevicius has a chance to be nearly complete player if he can improve his shooting game.

    Guys like Rubstavicius, Sirvydis, D. Giedraitis, Lelevicius seems to be very good fit next to Domas. But the long term key will be to find the right chemistry between 3 main pieces Sabonis, Buzelis, Murauskas. All are guys that you can basically build around and how we are gonna use them will be very interesting to see (Jokubaitis is also there, but he can adjust to anything, he has 100% BB IQ).

    But the problem is that for 2023 only Grigonis is available as ready and made shooter. Maybe we can expect some-one from D.Giedraitis/Sirvydis making the roster. But none of these yet can snatch bigger and more impactful role. Rubstavicius, Murauskas, Buzelis, Lelevicius still are too raw. The problem is that Iggy is pretty horrible fit cause he can't shoot and he's more effective with the ball in his hands than vise versa. I would use Iggy in the second line-up, specially in the moments Sabonis is resting.

    Most likely we'll have to rely on Jokubaitis, Grigonis, Ulanovas, Kuzminskas as those who takes shots after Sabonis' passes and we simply don't have enough of reliable shooting power which will limit the ability to utilize Sabonis to the fullest.

    I would say that probably Jokubaitis' development and the addition of Ulanovas are our biggest reserves and improvements compared to 2022. Hopefully the addition of say Sedekerskis, Tubelis, D. Giedraitis would make a little impact too, but it won't be all that much impactful.

    This Olympic cycle remains very problematic. We have very good prospects, but they still need couple of more years and then the picture of NT may change radically. But as 2023-2024 goes we have pretty good, but not good enough to truly make noise, kinda team.
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
      And, no, you are not right. Some rookies fail, some rookies not. That's all. It's only your imagination that all rookies can't shoot. That's because you only think about such occasions. Macijauskas 2003m 42,3%, Jasaitis 2005 47.6%, Gecevicius in 2010 shot 36%, Pocius 46,4%, Seibutis 50%, Juskevicius 2014 48,1%, Brazdeikis 2022 36%, Jokubaitis 27.8% (still twice better than freakin' Giedraitis).
      Rookies of recent tournaments:

      2022 Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis (succeeded), Zemaitis, Zukauskas, Echodas (too shirt sample)
      2019 R. Giedraitis (failed or too short sample)
      2017 Ulanovas (succeeded)
      2016 Grigonis, Kariniauskas (failed)
      2015 Milaknis (succeeded), Gailius, Sabonis (too short sample), Lekavicius (failed)
      2014 Juskevicius (succeeded), Vasiliauskas (failed)
      2013 Motiejunas (succeeded), Kuzminskas (relatively succeeded)
      2012 Kavaliauskas (succeded)
      2011 Valanciunas (succeeded)
      2010 Pocius (succeeded), Seibutis (succeeded), Gecevicius (succeeded), Klimavicius and Andriuskevicius (too short sample)

      From those rookies who had meaningful role (at least decent amount of minutes and showing up in several games), I have 12 succeed, 4 failed. Many simply played too little in their rookie seasons to estimate.

      So last 10 seasons showed that there's two or three times more chances for rookies to succeed than fail in the NT. And there was no tournament without at least a single rookie.

      2019 happened to be the only tournament when not a single rookie got a meaningful role...
      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • im talking just about shooting. Thats what is worst element in first tournament for players,other basketball elements more less players can do.

        And shooting not in games where NT was leading by 25pts when no pressure.

        2022 Jokubaitis couldnt make shoots, Brazdeikis made shots
        2019-2021 R.Giedraitis couldnt make shoots
        2017 no rookies made shots
        2016 Grigonis couldnt make no shots,Sabonis couldnt make no shots
        2015 Lekavicius couldnt make no shots . Im not calling 29 old Milaknis and 5 season euroleague veteran ale rookie
        2014 Jukevicius made shots
        2013 Motiejunas,Kuzminskas couldnt make no shoots. Dmo had one good game but not tournament


        So the only players that really made shots in first tournament as real rookies was Brazdeikis and Juskevicius in last 10 years.


        My point was expect that rookie will come and first tournament will make shots thats very unlikely. They can provide energy,maybe defence but not shooting.
        Last edited by Shawshank; 12-27-2022, 04:17 PM.

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        • Again, not entirely true.

          Brazdeikis shot the ball well 2022, Jokubaitis didn't entirely failed either
          Ulanovas shot the ball well in 2017
          Milaknis shot the ball well in 2015
          Juskevicius shot the ball well 2014
          All thee Pocius, Seibutis, Gecevicius shot well in 2010
          Jasaitis shot the ball well 2005
          Macijauskas 2003
          Kaukenas shot the ball well 2001
          Siskauskas shot basically decently 2000

          Some rookies come and shoot the ball well. And it's not that super rare.
          Last edited by Straight forward; 12-27-2022, 04:21 PM.
          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
          Buzelis, Lelevicius
          Murauskas, Sirvydis
          Tubelis, Krivas

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          • R. Giedraitis is also EL vet, but he can't shoot in NT. Nor Lukauskis could in 2009. Age is not equivalent to mental toughness, not all the time, it is trickier than you project.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • Maksvytis still sees D-Mo in the NT. Classy Let's have another complete black hole defensively...

              It's good that D-Mo himself understands he has nothing to give.
              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
              Buzelis, Lelevicius
              Murauskas, Sirvydis
              Tubelis, Krivas

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              • Oh no, polite answer
                The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
                  Oh no, polite answer
                  Do you think he's bluffing when he says he wanted D-Mo in EB 22? I don't.
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
                    Do you think he's bluffing when he says he wanted D-Mo in EB 22? I don't.
                    Instead of Echodas? Not bluffing
                    The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                    • Originally posted by LuDux View Post
                      Instead of Echodas? Not bluffing
                      But now he doesn't really want him...because?
                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • OK, I will say this:

                        There's a good chance that Tubelis, Sedekerskis (2 defensive bigs) + Buzelis, Rubstavicius//Indrusaitis, Jokubaitis (three perimeter scorers) may be the best line-up since Javtokas, Songaila, Siskauskas, Macijauskas, Jasikevicius

                        I'm a big believer in contemporary trend that you need defensive bigs who can play D, pass and occasionally hit open three (that's enough) and give all offensive tools for 3 perimeter players who can do it all. That's deadliest recipe in current game, IMO.
                        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                        Buzelis, Lelevicius
                        Murauskas, Sirvydis
                        Tubelis, Krivas

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                        • 3 biggest enigma's of LTU BB regarding PRO level readiness:

                          Buzelis, Tubelis, Sirvydis

                          (To a lesser extent - Lukosius and Marciulionis (one as offensive all arounder, other as defensive stopper))

                          All guys play abroad, so no surprise.
                          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                          Buzelis, Lelevicius
                          Murauskas, Sirvydis
                          Tubelis, Krivas

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                          • Good talk with Balciunas.

                            So France and 2 more best European teams of WC will qualify to Olympics. It is extremely hard to do it cause there's plenty of quality teams now. Maybe the positive thing that it seems closer than ever. Even stacked teams as Serbia can't establish certain domination. Most games in knock out stage are last seconds games basically. So FIBA is really wild ATM and it's very hard to project things, except that Spain will find ways to take one of the spots

                            The news on Buzelis that Maksvytis wants him to test. From Balciunas answer I understood that there's more chances to see him in main NT camp than U20.

                            Interesting that Balciunas has in mind some sort of projects that could test such players as Sivydis, Buzelis and so on, but he didn't specify what he meant. Some sort of pre-camp tournament?

                            I totally agree with Ceponis that Domas and JV should be separated as much as possible and the game endings may even be played without both of them. It's time to openly mock this madness pf playing them together, having ridiculously predictable offense and absolute garbage D. I'm stunned that this shit actually continues for about 8 years (since JV-D-Mo duel in 2014) and LTU critics like idiots never openly expressed that it's madness. This shit has to stop. JV should be glued to the bench at the end of the games hell of high water. And we might even want to finish games with some Sedekerskis/Ulanovas at the front if we have some thing like Garuba at 5 in opposition.

                            It's funny that media still raises question- will Brazdeikis and Buzelis can play together? I mean, my god, wasn't so hard to realize that Iggy was "naturalized" only because he played for Canada. None of Buzelis, Indrusaitis, or Buzelis' brother (another enigma, how good he will be?) ever played for foreign country and they have LTU passports. No problem at all.

                            It's interesting that NT planning to camp in Taiwan. That's a nice gesture.

                            From Balciunas I understood that all players agreed to come back to NT after 2022. But Grigonis is big question now. I feel like he will skip it, but hopefully not. Then Ulanovas decision will be important, but he has great connection with Maksvytis and I think will be in if healthy. Then Maksvytis has to deal with Sedekerskis. Basically last summer he "cut" him. He has to let him openly know that NT needs it.

                            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                            Buzelis, Lelevicius
                            Murauskas, Sirvydis
                            Tubelis, Krivas

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                            • OK, so we well know that we recently had a pretty trashy shooting team:

                              2017 EB 13th 35%
                              2019 WC 28th 27.4%
                              2022 EB 16th 33.8%

                              With all the massive wave of prospects coming and emerging I thought that we still have an issue with shooting. But now I can see that this problem may be solved, even if Kulboka's positions staggered a bit and Sirvydis seems more like role player.

                              The reason are 4 players that I think will be starting material long term - Jokubaitis, Rubstavicius, Buzelis, Murauskas.

                              Jokubaitis EL career threes 44.4%, despite this seasons' slump. ACB career 43%.
                              Rubstavicius shoots 50% in LKL. Great off ball and on ball shooting.
                              Buzelis shows huge promise in terms of shooting being 6'10.
                              Murauskas 53% in LKL. He won't be terrific shooter, but capable.

                              When these 4 will start competing for the main roles in the NT, Lithuania should be much better shooting team.
                              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                              Buzelis, Lelevicius
                              Murauskas, Sirvydis
                              Tubelis, Krivas

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                              • Luka Doncic scored 60 points in a triple-double win over the Knicks on December 27, 2022, but it was his 22 point game against the Nuggets a few weeks earlie...



                                Luka is basketball genius.No double team,no diffrent defensive coverages wont work and no human alive can defend 1 vs 1 such smart,skilled and huge body in his athletic peak. The men has seen it all millions times. Just switch everything with everybody and let him play 1 vs 1 all game long and hopefully he will get tired.

                                LTU eurobasket 2022 game when 5 minutes to go ltu nt got 5-6pts lead Slovenia timeout and from that point Doncic was doing same shit like in that video and had the ball every single attack.

                                Every little defensive mistake and Tobey has layup or slovenian shooter wide open shoot in corner.Our average players wont in some miracle way outsmart Doncic doing defensive changes.He will outsmart our players 100%.

                                Dont double team him just switch everything with no big complications and make him jump shooter.Let Doncic score 40pts and leave others players cold and just watchers not participants in offence.

                                Every time Doncic goes 45-60pts his team looses or barely wins. Luka teams wins by double digits when his teammates scores alot and Doncic goes for 15+ assists.
                                Last edited by Shawshank; 01-08-2023, 10:27 PM.

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