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Oh, snap, Lekavicius blew it with one missed free throw and now Zalgiris guards (Lukas, Marius, Rokas, Thomas) have 60/61 FTs
On a serious note, despite Shiller's transition and struggles with EL culture, Zalgiris is highly enjoyable team. If I could switch T. Walkup with something more watchable at 1, it would be pure pleasure.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Zalgiris open running game getting back to reality after other euroleague clubs getting in shape.
Trying playing open games with more tallented teams will not work in long run.Zalgiris will not win alot of games in 90s scoring wise.
This week both games in 4 querters we saw high quality guards deciding games 1 vs 1 when you let them all game long scoring and feeling it, they gonna make even tough shots later on and burn you.
Kazlauskas,Jasikevicius starts everything from defence when you have limited team your main plan should be trying to put your opponents in uncomfortable situations. Only then you search for offensive pluses your team could have.
Schiller is more Adomaitis type plays open offensive game , but also do not disturb what opponents wants to play.It could work if your team would have more than average tallent.For Lithuanians guards of last 10+ years I very doubt that a winning formula.
But atleast NT trio Grigonis,Lekavicius,Jokubaitis getting seriuos minutes againts top players every week, that should pay dividends for NT.
That trio can score they proved that manny times,but can they make stops defensively in game endings?
Getting such lessons in last 3 minutes from M.James or Delaney/ Punter in game endings it should make your finishing game skill better at some point with more experience being in them.Last edited by Shawshank; 11-21-2020, 10:57 AM.
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I think Schiller can do a little bit better job adjusting his defensive game plan to each team, that's what we should ask more from him. But other than that, Zalgiris is losing to stronger clubs, as simple as that. Higher quality players closes the games, it's as simple. Jasikevicius spoiled us with his ability to get from average players more than any other coach, but generally Schiller is doing OK.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Grigonis needs a better team where the opponent team wouldn't be able to do like that: not letting him to breath giving a freedom to crappy Walkup. But Grigonis uses most of the holes he has this season and his numbers are great. But it's not great to eatch him.in this Zalgiris team
Interesting, how Saras would coach Jokubaitis today. He didn't give him any solid minutes after his bad movements. Today Rokas missed his first 5-6 shots, but still played in the end ( solid 21 min overall) scoring 4 pts in a row but finished with -1 EFF. On the other hand, there aren't many options to choose. Foteigners guards should be better.
P.S. Both Zalgiris and Rytas clubs found crappy defensive coaches and gave them 3 years contracts.Last edited by Dreamcatcher; 11-26-2020, 11:13 PM.
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i never seen anybody playing worse pikenroll defence than Sved + Monroe,its basketball comedy not defenceOur Lekavicius + Valanciunas looks like solid defenders compered to those 2 from chimky... atleast Lukas and Jonas is trying to defend, Sved and Monroe literally dont even try
those 2 thinks only how they gonna score on other side.
Kurtinaitis must sit down those two offensive lazy asses down to the bench and limit their time badly or chimky gonna get 100pts every time in euroleague and Kurtis get fired soon.
Zalgiris in last 7 games defensive performance were pts allowed: 94, 93,85,87,98,83 + asvel using 7 players scored 50pts in first half and got tired in second half without normal rotation and finished with only 74pts and zalgiris managed barely beat them being behind all game.
Zalgiris went in those games 1-6 (with one win against Asvels 7 covid players rotation) .
Schiller you better start bulding team defence now or you gonna end up with Kurtinaits celebrating christmas without a job.Zalgiris have very slim chances winning games in euroleague every time getting to -20 deficits in 3querter and allowing opponents 85pts+
Jasikevicius demands Barcelona stars playing defence.Barsa by far best defensive euroleague team with only 69pts allowed on average so far this season.Thats how you win on highest level. When the last time Barcelona team leaded anything in any sport in defence ?
Hopefully Maskoliunas learned thing or two in last 5 years with Saras and will show in our NT some defences too next summer, when he will get more than 3 days to prepare team.Last edited by Shawshank; 11-26-2020, 11:44 PM.
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This is a first time in years when Im not waiting for Zalgiris games anymore.
The defense is bad, is litterally bad. How the teams exploit our ice defense is funny to the point where it's sad. They are shooting unguarded 3s game after game.
The next game is againts Barca, I guess +30 for barca is a reasonable guess.
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Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
Zalgiris in last 7 games defensive performance were pts allowed: 94, 93,85,87,98,83 + asvel using 7 players scored 50pts in first half and got tired in second half without normal rotation and finished with only 74pts and zalgiris managed barely beat them being behind all game.
Zalgiris went in those games 1-6 (with one win against Asvels 7 covid players rotation) .
Schiller you better start bulding team defence now or you gonna end up with Kurtinaits celebrating christmas without a job.Zalgiris have very slim chances winning games in euroleague every time getting to -20 deficits in 3querter and allowing opponents 85pts+
Jasikevicius demands Barcelona stars playing defence.Barsa by far best defensive euroleague team with only 69pts allowed on average so far this season.Thats how you win on highest level. When the last time Barcelona team leaded anything in any sport in defence ?
Hopefully Maskoliunas learned thing or two in last 5 years with Saras and will show in our NT some defences too next summer, when he will get more than 3 days to prepare team.
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostHopefully Maskoliunas learned thing or two in last 5 years with Saras and will show in our NT some defences too next summer, when he will get more than 3 days to prepare team.
Mantas Kalnietis - PG
Lukas Lekavičius - PG
Rokas Jokubaitis - PG
Tomas Dimša - SG
Marius Grigonis - SG
Edgaras Ulanovas - SF
Arnas Butkevičius - SF
Tadas Sedekerskis - SF/PF
Arnoldas Kulboka - SF/PF
Eimantas Bendžius - PF
Laurynas Birutis - C
Marek Blaževič - C
Last edited by Hepcat; 12-03-2020, 05:47 PM.
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Jesus, forgot about that. This team looks so much better.
ONe thought crossed my mind in the suffering yesterday. Maybe in a such a short period of preparation coach should give more freedom to the players? It was obvious watching when Birutis tryied to post up time after time, or when Miniotas didin't take the open three... They were trying to play after plan, while lesser opponents has beaten them again with share will.
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Saras didn't miss an opportunity to encourage his project Vasturia, naming him among 4 creative Zalgiris' playersI believe he meant Jokubaitis, Grigonis, Walkup as the rest and Lekavicius as one of those "who knows their role well". It's more than understandable, but to me Walkup and Vasturia do not qualify as creative players per se
Walkup to me is still just a crazy project at 1, if not his great D and hustle he would be out of EL because he can't play 2 and he's not 1, Zalgiris wasn't able to sell him if I'm not mistaken, there wouldn't be much EL teams that would want Walkup is PG, IMO. And Vasturia is just lacking a little bit of class, just needs to be more polished and skilled, to be truly valuable EL player, but with the ball in his hands he likely would be a little bit more effective. In other words, those 2 are creative players under Saras control, but not under status quo EL environment,
LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Svajunas View PostOne thought crossed my mind in the suffering yesterday. Maybe in a such a short period of preparation coach should give more freedom to the players? It was obvious watching when Birutis tryied to post up time after time, or when Miniotas didin't take the open three... They were trying to play after plan, while lesser opponents has beaten them again with share will.
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Greens stayed in the game with Barsa pretty nicely. Jokubaitis continues to deliver, he's now third best scorer of Zalgiris with 8,8ppg. It's refreshing to see his elite size, toughness, skill and IQ for a point guard. From Lith guards he felt most comfortable against arguably the best defence in Europe. Lekavicius is too small to bang with big guards, even Grigonis struggles with it. Despite a loss it was really enjoyable game. Youngster's development has been so insane that now I'm not sure who will be the best Zalgiris' guard at the end of the season.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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