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  • If zalgiris will go this way to have Jokubaitis,Giedraitis,Sirvydis,Dimsa and only one foreigner guard they simply not seriuos about winning.

    Lithuanian blood is more important in such way for them


    When Zalgiris made final four season who was their main guards?

    Pangos+Misic + elite coaching


    when Jasikevicius got lesser tallent guards max he could do is finish 7-8th in standings and lose 1/4 series.

    And euroleuge is getting only stronger not weaker compared even to 2018 season.

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    • SS, Zalgiris can't sign 2 players worth 800k for their backcourt. Can they? Jokubaitis will get that kind of offers, imo. Besides, Jokubaitis has more ISO game than he shows now. In Barca he closed tons of games. In Zalgiris he would be most talented guard, period.

      Zalias, Lukas and Dimsa have contracts, right, so they stay. Unless they would go hardcore and pay them to go, in Lekavicius case that's possibility. TBH with Giedraitis development none of Lukas, Tomas are needed. It should be Joku, foreigner starter, giedraitis, Sirvydis as the backcourt core. Very talented core.
      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • Main cores of desicion makers in euroleague best 8 teams (todays age)


        1.Real Campazzo (33), Musa (25) ,Rodriguez (37), Llull (36)

        2.Monaco James (34),Okobo (27), Loyd (31)

        3.Barcelona Saroransky (33),Lapro (34), Rubio (34)

        4.Panathinaikos Nunn (29),Sloukas (34),Grigonis (30)

        5.Olympiakos Canaan (33),Walkup (32),N.Goss (30)

        6.Fenerbahce Calathes (35),Wilbekin 31),Dorsey (28)

        7.Maccabi Baldwin (28),L.Brown (34), Blatt (27)

        8.Virtus Bellineli (38),Hacket (37),Lundberg (30)



        how manny we can see there under 25 old desicion makers in best euroleague teams?


        our expert is telling us zalgiris need to go with Jokubaitis (24),Giedraitis (24),Sirvydis (24) and one foreigner as core to for next season euroleague )



        totaly cluesless fan that dont understand the sittuation neither in euroleague,neither in fiba competions and what best clubs/NTs is doing in 2020s.
        Last edited by Shawshank; 03-29-2024, 03:52 PM.

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        • zalgiris has made the playoffs with younger players plenty of times and that's their main goal every year, in 2018 pangos was 24 and micic was 25, even last year taylor was 28 and brazdeikis was 24. most of these teams have older players simply because there have not been many younger players reaching the highest level lately.

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          • Zalias, don't tell that. Let SS live in his own passport universe
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • Originally posted by zalias View Post
              zalgiris has made the playoffs with younger players plenty of times and that's their main goal every year, in 2018 pangos was 24 and micic was 25, even last year taylor was 28 and brazdeikis was 24. most of these teams have older players simply because there have not been many younger players reaching the highest level lately.
              Pangos is 1 year older than Micic.Not sure how your math works. Taylors 28 age is more than fine,im talking about under 25 age guards.

              One younger desicion maker can be for sure. But not 3 such young inexperience guards in your desicon making positions in same team


              in 2024 euroleague its hard to find team which plays more than 1 player who is under 25 old in decision making positions.Thats not my opinion im just saying what top euroleague teams does in 2020s

              Why is that ?
              Last edited by Shawshank; 03-30-2024, 12:09 PM.

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              • zalgiris is not a top team, they cant afford to sign proven veterans, they need to take risks and hope someone develops into a star. also is jokubaitis really that inexperienced? he has played 6 seasons in euroleague and has more playoff/F4 experience than the entire roster of zalgiris. do you want them to take the asvel route of signing mediocre veterans with no potential and look like worst team in euroleague?
                zalgiris is 8-5 this season when giedraitis plays over 20mpg and 6-11 when he doesn't, interesting how his inexperience somehow does not make zalgiris lose.


                they would also most likely have 2-3 veterans in backcourt.
                PG: Jokubaitis, foreigner
                SG: foreigner, giedraitis, dimsa

                sirvydis would probably play sg/sf

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                • I shown how top 8 teams euroleague teams backourt looks


                  2024 Zalgiris backourt model

                  Evans 28 age 17,4pts
                  Sumner 28 age 7,0pts (Mitro-Long 30 age)
                  Dimsa 30 age 6,6pts
                  Giedraitis 24 age 4,5pts
                  Lekavicius 30 age 5,1pts


                  thats why im saying its fantasy from fans who dont understand team building saying euroleague team can have 3 young guards under 25 on same backourt

                  No euroleague team builds like that .

                  Its grown up experience men league where teams need very high basketball IQ and real men body physicality to even have chance in that league
                  Last edited by Shawshank; 03-31-2024, 03:42 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by zalias View Post
                    zalgiris is not a top team, they cant afford to sign proven veterans, they need to take risks and hope someone develops into a star. also is jokubaitis really that inexperienced? he has played 6 seasons in euroleague and has more playoff/F4 experience than the entire roster of zalgiris. do you want them to take the asvel route of signing mediocre veterans with no potential and look like worst team in euroleague?
                    zalgiris is 8-5 this season when giedraitis plays over 20mpg and 6-11 when he doesn't, interesting how his inexperience somehow does not make zalgiris lose.


                    they would also most likely have 2-3 veterans in backcourt.
                    PG: Jokubaitis, foreigner
                    SG: foreigner, giedraitis, dimsa

                    sirvydis would probably play sg/sf
                    Absolutely spot on post dude. People should have in mind Jokubaitis has N times more experience than majority of 25-28yo EL players. The same goes to some Sirvydis or even D. Giedraitis. Sirvydis has 4 Eurocup seasons experience, plus NT experience and even some NBA experience. Some Summner have nearly zero experience of "FIBA basketball" and EL is FIBA basketball style league. Giedraitis went against top players in ACB with Estudintes as their key defender for couple of years and then 2 seasons in EL. These 3 players, 24yo, would combine impressive PRO FIBA BB style experience. Jokubaitis readiness in like 28yo basically. At this moment he's probably more ready than Walkup was being 27-28yo.

                    With that said, as you pictured there, next these 3 young studs + Dimsa, there still could be one vet foreigner guard and maybe one upcoming foreigner. Who knows how Zalgiris will construct the whole picture.
                    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                    Buzelis, Lelevicius
                    Murauskas, Sirvydis
                    Tubelis, Krivas

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                    • IDK how nuts anyone can be prioritizing Sumner instead of Sirvydis. It's not even close. Sirvydis is stud and Sumner is trash in Europe and I doubt this will change. Sirvydis has been a problem for Zalgiris. He is already legitimate EL level piece, no doubt about it. I would say he would be effective from day 1 for Zalgiris, with a little up and downs in first 4 months, but even in those 4 months he would give some wins for Zalgiris with some volume scoring games and in mid season he would be consistent offensive threat, legitimate scorer with fundamentally sound decision making and passing. Defense will be a problem to certain extent, yes, but he is legitimate offensive threat already and who knows maybe one day he will be dropping 18ppg in EL as well. Offensive upside is high.

                      Sumner -2, Sirvydis 29eff in a head to head clash. Enough said. I wouldn't pay a cent for such player as Sumner. Not on my team.
                      Last edited by Straight forward; 04-01-2024, 06:07 PM.
                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • just the fact that sirvydis would probably be making 2/3 times less money than sumner makes this a no brainer

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                        • Shawshank, if everything is about numbers. Lets just rank all the clubs according to budgets and there is no need even play the game.

                          I would pay money to see Sirvydis play for Zalgiris, I wouldnt for Sumner or any other borderline nba scrub. Marketing is important as well.

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                          • sirvydis to zalgiris is almost a done deal according to basketnews, interested to see what his role will be. definitely has potential to be a star one day

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                            • Baskonia and several other clubs are after him. I wonder why would Sirvydis prioritize toxic LTU fans. Maybe he thinks he would get more PT. I would go to some ALBA and expect 25min + from the scratch.
                              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                              Buzelis, Lelevicius
                              Murauskas, Sirvydis
                              Tubelis, Krivas

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                              • Looking at Jokubaitis' minutes in Barca, Zalgiris can pre-sign him as well.

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