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  • Originally posted by Toruko View Post
    This kid Dovydas looks like an ok defender but he had 1000 TOs and looked like the reincarnation of Mantas Kalnietis. Horrible decision maker with no offensive weapons.
    Kalnietis wasn't a horrible decision maker. In his prime he was nearly elite one. Giedraitis can play better offensively than he showed today. Still far away from his prime.

    It's interesting how stubbornly Maksvytis benches Lekavicius. I bet he would ride freakin' Kariniauskas instead of him if he could choose that. Thanks got he is muzzled in Zalgiris that he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to reach mediocre scrubs.
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • That's why it would have been n times better decision to keep Taylor instead of Lekavicius despite everything.

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      • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

        Kalnietis wasn't a horrible decision maker. In his prime he was nearly elite one. Giedraitis can play better offensively than he showed today. Still far away from his prime.

        It's interesting how stubbornly Maksvytis benches Lekavicius. I bet he would ride freakin' Kariniauskas instead of him if he could choose that. Thanks got he is muzzled in Zalgiris that he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to reach mediocre scrubs.
        Kalnietis was the pure definition of a TO machine. He was famous for it. His TOs in the NT were legendary.

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        • Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
          That's why it would have been n times better decision to keep Taylor instead of Lekavicius despite everything.
          Zalgiris is not an organization which can make good decision every year. They failed with letting go Iggy in the first place.
          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
          Buzelis, Lelevicius
          Murauskas, Sirvydis
          Tubelis, Krivas

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          • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

            Kalnietis was the pure definition of a TO machine. He was famous for it. His TOs in the NT were legendary.
            As well as tons of assists, points, rebounds and the biggest heart you can find You fixated on that, but stats do not support that. Kalnietis 1.9 tos per EL career, Larkin 2.3, Jasikevicius 2,3, Spanoulis 3.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

              As well as tons of assists, points, rebounds and the biggest heart you can find You fixated on that, but stats do not support that. Kalnietis 1.9 tos per EL career, Larkin 2.3, Jasikevicius 2,3, Spanoulis 3.
              You dont understand what I am saying. I am referring to foolish TO without any pressure. Kalnietis was a special guy during his entire carrier.

              [QUOTE]
              He was constantly in attack mode with his slashing mentality, although over-dribbling at times and causing some pretty foolish turnovers when he got out of control with his dribble, or just plain trying to be too fancy when fatigue kicked in. - Source: https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mantas-Kalnietis-1064/

              I remember for example
              when the ball slipped out of his hands 2015 in the semi final game against Serbia but he also had a great block. His carrier is full of such mistakes. He is a legend in any way.

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              • [QUOTE=Toruko;n2408780]

                You dont understand what I am saying. I am referring to foolish TO without any pressure. Kalnietis was a special guy during his entire carrier.

                He was constantly in attack mode with his slashing mentality, although over-dribbling at times and causing some pretty foolish turnovers when he got out of control with his dribble, or just plain trying to be too fancy when fatigue kicked in. - Source: https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mantas-Kalnietis-1064/

                I remember for example
                when the ball slipped out of his hands 2015 in the semi final game against Serbia but he also had a great block. His carrier is full of such mistakes. He is a legend in any way.
                Well, with that I can agree.

                But Guedraitis is different mentality player. He's all about the system. He is simply not exactly ready to be consistent offensively.
                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                Tubelis, Krivas

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                • I really hope Zalgiris' management won't fire Maksvytis. He did a lot of good things for Zalgiris and doesn't deserve this. Plus, I don't want to see his ass extended in NT But seriously, Zalgiris management can suck a cock so eagerly, my goodness. I knew letting go Iggy was a disaster. Last season in the second half of the season his impact was basically elite and he was about to be much better. What we see in Oly is nothing, he doesn't have a role and freedom. Brazdeikis was about to give Zalgiris 14ppg with much improved FG%, but, no, with a first offer - "get the f...out of here if you willing to". Then plenty of other bad signings. Good luck waiting for NBA dude getting what it takes to ball in EL. Zalgiris always sucked a cock management wise, except Saras' stretch. Period.
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
                    I really hope Zalgiris' management won't fire Maksvytis. He did a lot of good things for Zalgiris and doesn't deserve this. Plus, I don't want to see his ass extended in NT But seriously, Zalgiris management can suck a cock so eagerly, my goodness. I knew letting go Iggy was a disaster. Last season in the second half of the season his impact was basically elite and he was about to be much better. What we see in Oly is nothing, he doesn't have a role and freedom. Brazdeikis was about to give Zalgiris 14ppg with much improved FG%, but, no, with a first offer - "get the f...out of here if you willing to". Then plenty of other bad signings. Good luck waiting for NBA dude getting what it takes to ball in EL. Zalgiris always sucked a cock management wise, except Saras' stretch. Period.
                    But last season was successful. Evans was signed after Saras. When Evans was injured, they managed to sign Taylor ASAP and that saved EL season and LKL finals as turned out. EL considers Zalgiris as a good organization with a reason. Motiejunas became EL CEO also with a reason.

                    But yeah, off season was bad. Especially, i didn't like that they hadn't kept Taylor. Btw, you argued with me that time and look now.



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                    • Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
                      But last season was successful. Evans was signed after Saras. When Evans was injured, they managed to sign Taylor ASAP and that saved EL season and LKL finals as turned out. EL considers Zalgiris as a good organization with a reason. Motiejunas became EL CEO also with a reason.

                      But yeah, off season was bad. Especially, i didn't like that they hadn't kept Taylor. Btw, you argued with me that time and look now.


                      Last year was a fluke. Even crappy management can pull it off some times. But the season before last season and this season only confirms that Zalgiris doesn't have consistent and reliable mind in management. They only had Jasikevicius and when he left, bad things started.

                      Taylor...well...now off course he would be nice. But the key mistake was letting go Brazdeikis.
                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • Just as I said. Take a way a shot from Evans and he's useless offensively. Horrible facilitator and not elite teams material.
                        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                        Buzelis, Lelevicius
                        Murauskas, Sirvydis
                        Tubelis, Krivas

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                        • Zalgiris NT candidates in euroleague this season


                          Ulanovas 29min 8,6pts 48% 36% eff.11.9

                          Butkevicius 21min 4,6pts 60% 31% eff.5,1

                          Dimsa 20min 9,5pts 54% 41% eff.6,8

                          Lekavicius 11min 4,3pts 27% 44% eff.3,1

                          Giedraitis 15min 4,8pts 27% 54% eff.3,3


                          if somebody would say before last season start that in 1,5 year Dimsa argubly will play best from all lithuanians in zalgiris roster in euroleague most people would say thats some kinda joke


                          Overall dissapointing first 1/3 part of euroleague season for zalgiris lithuanians
                          Last edited by Shawshank; 12-12-2023, 03:39 PM.

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                          • these lithuanian bums got way too comfortable with getting paid for simply being lithuanian, they are not even trying to play basketball anymore, get ulaonvas, birutis, lekavicius off this team. only dimsa and giedraits have shown that they are worthy of playing in the euroleague this year. sign sirvydis, tubelis, they need a fresh lithuanian core.

                            birutis is the worst of them all. zalgiris is forced to play 4v6 defensively every time he's on the court, they lucked out last year because teams would simply miss shots, but this season its a nightmare to watch

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                            • Zalgiris have 1 Evans. Partizan have 3 Evanses its huge diffrence

                              Zalgiris players competed hard but individual tallent diffrence when partizan puts 5 black athletes was just too big.



                              D.Giedraitis plays smart,very pesky positional defence .Problem he is small and those eltie scorers like M.James,Punter they can shoot just over him,he is too small to chalenge their jumper.

                              Dimsa and Butkevicius is abit slowerr but bigger and with better leaping abilities and they can chalenge opponents jumpers

                              I can remember n times when Dimsa/Butkevicius has blocked oponnets jumpers or dunked the ball themselfs ,i cant recall Giedraitis blocking jumper and making even one dunk himself ever. Simply diffrent athletic possibilites.

                              All 3 is high IQ defenders.


                              D.Giedraitis is best if NT need to defend small PG Schroder or Mills or Puerturico Alvarado types that does most of their damage on speed

                              Butkevicius/Dimsa is better option if NT need to defend modern lenghty 1,95m+ guards ale Shai,Misic,Edwards,Doncic,Bogdanovich types


                              Near Valanciunas is more logical to have Giedraitis (he is fast and fights over screens well) if NT will play switch all defence (with JV on bench) Dimsa/Butkevicius is better options.
                              Last edited by Shawshank; 12-14-2023, 08:08 PM.

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                              • Evams is one head better player than his teammates (well, Smits can only be an exeption). To score 33 pts in EL game when everybody knows that he will be one who will try to score is smth. Where will he play next season (if not an injurie again)?

                                Giedraitis...He's been good defensively, but in the second half he fucked up a lot with a ball in his hands...

                                Samner seems to be one more bad signing.

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