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  • Tubelis won't play together with Sabonis or very little, unless he will prove to be pretty reliable three point shooter. Tubelis will play mostly at 5 as a backup, or even as 3rd center maybe. Probably some minutes at 4 here and there, but we have guys like Sedekerskis, Murauskas, Buzelis, maybe even Padegimas playing at 4 who are more versatile (specially last 2), so we don't need Tubelis playing at 4 much if any. From all prospects we have, Tubelis probably resembles such players as Ralands Smits the most. Physical and pretty mobile 4/5. So he should fill this role. Playing with Tubelis at 5 you get pretty mobile D and still enough of physicality down low. Sm

    The way I see it it will be like this till some 2030 at center position:

    Sabonis + Tubelis, Krivas (and later) Raupelis backing him up

    As for Marciulionis I think he is actually a very good fit next Sabonis. Bad defender as Sabonis desperately need strong defensive PG next to him. The one who can go hard through screens and who can play elite pick and roll. Marciulionis fits that mode perfectly. I don't mind few bricks, he still would run the offense at the high level if he will develop properly. Actually from what I see from current guards, D. Giedrairtis goes through the screens and blocks passing lanes the best in the country as a guard (not including Marciulionis who will only yet to be tested). Problem is that Giedraitis at 1 is not fully sufficient.
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • Yeah playing with Sabonis requires a strong backcourt but also a backcourt which can stretch the floor. How to you intend to play effective basketball who has almost zero scoring threat?

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      • Originally posted by Toruko View Post
        Yeah playing with Sabonis requires a strong backcourt but also a backcourt which can stretch the floor. How to you intend to play effective basketball who has almost zero scoring threat?
        Depends. For example Kalnietis never was great shooter too, even though he tended to exceed in the NT. Marciulionis has more offense than you think. He was 18,2ppg kinda dude as 18yo in ANGT. I think he will have slightly more offense (scoring) than Walkup and rather similar profile in all other areas. And Walkup is easily top 10 EL PGs, likely top 5. That's with good development of Marciulionis. Besides, he will be a back-up and he's a true floor general. You can't have everything in one player. Jokubaitis doesn't have Marciulionis' defense. Maybe Jakucionis will be the most complete PG, we'll see. People tend to go nuts thinking that around Sabonis should be excellent shooters Fox barely can shoot. Extremely streaky. There are games when he can't shoot from three literally. But he can get to the basket any time he wants. Marciulionis offensively has two nearly elite skills, he can slash in and he can pass in various ways. You can buy fundamentals of passing that Marciulionis has.

        And look at this almost zero scoring threat:

        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
        Buzelis, Lelevicius
        Murauskas, Sirvydis
        Tubelis, Krivas

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        • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

          Depends. For example Kalnietis never was great shooter too, even though he tended to exceed in the NT. Marciulionis has more offense than you think. He was 18,2ppg kinda dude as 18yo in ANGT. I think he will have slightly more offense (scoring) than Walkup and rather similar profile in all other areas. And Walkup is easily top 10 EL PGs, likely top 5. That's with good development of Marciulionis. Besides, he will be a back-up and he's a true floor general. You can't have everything in one player. Jokubaitis doesn't have Marciulionis' defense. Maybe Jakucionis will be the most complete PG, we'll see. People tend to go nuts thinking that around Sabonis should be excellent shooters Fox barely can shoot. Extremely streaky. There are games when he can't shoot from three literally. But he can get to the basket any time he wants. Marciulionis offensively has two nearly elite skills, he can slash in and he can pass in various ways. You can buy fundamentals of passing that Marciulionis has.

          And look at this almost zero scoring threat:

          https://twitter.com/CBB_Europe/statu...56331231244289
          Ill tell you what ANGT is. ANGT is the biggest shit on earth in terms of evaluating players. Nobody plays defense there so making some conclusions with ANGT is nonsense. This guy cant shoot, its that easy. 40% fgp and 25% from three in his i suppose second or third year and this is among kids. He wont be able to score among men in any way.

          If you play with such a guy your SF and PFs must be very potent in terms of creating for others and for themselves. Murauskas is such a scorer with some deficiencies but he can just score for himself. He can barely see anything the ball in his hands or pass it. The pas quality is below average so Marculionis with Sabonis would be suicide

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          • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

            Ill tell you what ANGT is. ANGT is the biggest shit on earth in terms of evaluating players. Nobody plays defense there so making some conclusions with ANGT is nonsense. This guy cant shoot, its that easy. 40% fgp and 25% from three in his i suppose second or third year and this is among kids. He wont be able to score among men in any way.

            If you play with such a guy your SF and PFs must be very potent in terms of creating for others and for themselves. Murauskas is such a scorer with some deficiencies but he can just score for himself. He can barely see anything the ball in his hands or pass it. The pas quality is below average so Marculionis with Sabonis would be suicide
            Dude...seriously? OK, I agree ANGT is not the best indicator, but it's still a stage of consideration. Second, Marciulionis already showed strides of scoring potential in March Madness this Spring, you like it or not. He became stronger, really can get inside, can score with floater or lay up with either hand. He crosses over people and you off course don't understand it, but facilitation is a big factor of the game. I'm not saying he'll be big scorer, but he's not a guy who can't score. But we'll see.

            Last observation just makes me smile. Can you name me potentially more deadly facilitating trio than Jokubaitis at 1, Buzelis at 3 and Sabonis at 5? Like literally you would be sweating globally.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

              Dude...seriously? OK, I agree ANGT is not the best indicator, but it's still a stage of consideration. Second, Marciulionis already showed strides of scoring potential in March Madness this Spring, you like it or not. He became stronger, really can get inside, can score with floater or lay up with either hand. He crosses over people and you off course don't understand it, but facilitation is a big factor of the game. I'm not saying he'll be big scorer, but he's not a guy who can't score. But we'll see.

              Last observation just makes me smile. Can you name me potentially more deadly facilitating trio than Jokubaitis at 1, Buzelis at 3 and Sabonis at 5? Like literally you would be sweating globally.
              Look, I had the same hopes with Tibet Gorener but he turned out to be nothing. Just 6 points in 20 minutes means you can do nothing. I accepted it because it is how it is. Trying to implement him to the NT is up to you but it will be causing many problems.

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              • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                Look, I had the same hopes with Tibet Gorener but he turned out to be nothing. Just 6 points in 20 minutes means you can do nothing. I accepted it because it is how it is. Trying to implement him to the NT is up to you but it will be causing many problems.
                Is Thomas Walkup a good player (useful) at the high level or not?
                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                Tubelis, Krivas

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                • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

                  Is Thomas Walkup a good player (useful) at the high level or not?
                  Walkup is a 35% spot up shooter with limited but existing creativity. I havent watched him very often but you cant deceive stats. A player which have the same profile with another one doesnt mean he will reach the same level. At the moment he is even questionable for Rytas unlike Tubelis.

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                  • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                    Walkup is a 35% spot up shooter with limited but existing creativity. I havent watched him very often but you cant deceive stats. A player which have the same profile with another one doesnt mean he will reach the same level. At the moment he is even questionable for Rytas unlike Tubelis.
                    Walkup in the final 4 was 0/5 from three, but he still made impact with his great D and very solid play making with 6.5apg. He was literally scoreless, but nevertheless very useful role player for Champ's level EL club.

                    And, no, Rytas would gladly take Marciulionis. Anyway, we'll see more what's with him in next weeks as he will show up in reserve NT.
                    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                    Buzelis, Lelevicius
                    Murauskas, Sirvydis
                    Tubelis, Krivas

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                    • That's how Sixers reporter sees 3 goals of Tubelis this season. I personally think Embiid may be out with injuries as he often is and hope that Tubelis gets chances in NBA in those stretches. Last 2 seasons he averaged 67 games which shows he improved his discipline and diet, but he is still a bit of injury prone, IMO. Not that I wish Embiid injuries though:

                      Meet Mr. Longabardi

                      Considering Tubelis is on a two-way deal and the Sixers already have backup big men for Joel Embiid, Tubelis is likely ticketed for the G League. That is where he will meet Mke Longabardi, the new coach of the Delaware Blue Coats. That will give Tubelis his chance to get the necessary court time he needs.


                      Improve defensively

                      Tubelis has work to do on the defensive end. While his offensive game is something that could translate to the NBA right away, he needs work on the other end of the floor before he can become a legitimate player in this league. He had issues in the summer league and the Blue Coats will offer the opportunity to improve on that end.


                      Add weight

                      This goes hand in hand with improving on the defensive end. If Tubelis can get in the weight room and add to his body, he is going to be in good shape. He has a smooth offensive game and an understanding of where he needs to be on that end of the floor, but to really take that next step, he has to add weight and be better on the defensive end.






                      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                      Buzelis, Lelevicius
                      Murauskas, Sirvydis
                      Tubelis, Krivas

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                      • When Tubelis entered NCAA he provided nice defensive effort. In Youth level he also looked really good defensively. With bigger offensive role I think he just tented to be more passive in the D end, but he has the tools to be at least solid at it, IMO. Here's the good example:



                        Tubelis in the media day said he has been working on three and pick and roll defence. Yes, bro, that's what you have to be working on it. Really looking forward to see what Tubelis can bring for LTU in 2024. He's the fastest solution/improvement of our black hole at 5 defensively (along with coming back Sabonis partially and using Sedekerskis at 5 more willingly). This has to be made if we want to move forward and not to be ridiculed by any better team.

                        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                        Buzelis, Lelevicius
                        Murauskas, Sirvydis
                        Tubelis, Krivas

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                        • Tubelis got waved. Interesting where he's heading now. Would love to see him in Rytas, he still has ties with the club and he could show he could foster his development at PRO. In my opinion he got enough of time to develop individually in NCAA. When see how Brazdeikis, Sirvydis, Kulboka spent time in G League and then coming back and learning to play PRO again...It's a waste of time, unless you're some sort of Buzelis, lottery pick. In my opinion, the sooner Tubelis will play truly PRO (in Europe), the better for his career and the NT. I would hate to see him ridding those meaningless G League games and Summer Leagues for 2 years now, just as Sirvydis did. And what he got? Now he's trying establish himself as a player in Eurocup. That's all. If NBA doesn't give you a chance, you go to Europe and play PRO. That would be my choice. For Sixers it didn't make any sense since they got Petrusev. I'm afraid some team will give Tubelis a chance in their G league and then SL and so on...Boring.
                          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                          Buzelis, Lelevicius
                          Murauskas, Sirvydis
                          Tubelis, Krivas

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                          • Tubelis was top 10 player in ncaa according to awards 2022/2023 and he wasnt drafted and is cut after few weeks camp from 2 way contract


                            We are seeing how weak ncaa become,when all best kids leaves after 1 year and who stays 2-3 years are just average tallents


                            top 10 ncaa players used to be lottery pick 30 years ago.

                            Now Nba people sees passport 20-22 old ones putting numbers playing 19 old freshmans verdict---> meh


                            Real world class tallents simply dont play in ncaa at age of 21-22 old in 2020s



                            We saw with Sirvydis,Brazdeikis,Kulboka playing in joke/selfish g league,players learns bad habbits and then comes to europe and need 1-2 years to relearn to winning basketball habits.

                            Tubelis please go home to real basketball,dont waste your time in G league
                            Last edited by Shawshank; 10-26-2023, 04:11 PM.

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                            • Tubelis most likely returns to Rytas and will be lent. Lietkabelis and Neptunas interested. Both teams have two centers and one stretch four, Lietkabelis lost their 3rd big due to injury and Neptunas due to Rytas. Lietkabelis has place in Eurocup
                              The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!

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                              • If that true its getting ridiculous

                                Kid from Rytas went to usa played 3 years with 19 old kids and comeback to be loan to average lkl team?

                                Its seems all that myth of super Rytas kvartet Blazevicius,Tubelis,Sirvydis,Marciulionis is looking very meh in 2023


                                This 3 years wasnt sucess for that kvartet what was expected from them in 2020
                                Last edited by Shawshank; 11-07-2023, 04:37 PM.

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