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  • Hepcat
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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    It costs Lithuanians specially, as we lead Europe in suicides (mainly men).
    If Lithuania was located on my side of the Atlantic, an enterprising researcher at a university could get himself a multi $million grant to study whether the suicide rate correlates inversely with Lithuania's success in basketball.

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  • LuDux
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    When will Tautvydas Sabonis become Zalgiris' head coach?
    a) This or next month
    b) This summer
    c) After being assistant of next Zalgiris' coach
    d) After coaching weaker team

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  • Straight forward
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    Good piece. Happy to see that we moving forward. Coaches as Adomaitis, Zibenas already are new school coaches. They know mobbing or ignoring mental health issues is not an answer and it's so past. Saras goes still a little bit oldschool ways, but he compensates with huge personality. Like he hits and smooths at the same time. And I think he realizes that he should change his way a little bit and it is seen lately.

    The world slowly moves toward Holarchy instead of Hierarchy (there will be certain amount of hierarchy which is necessary, but all unnecessary and excessive should be demolished), nonviolent communication instead of mobbing. Depression is the leading cause of disability in the world already and it can't be ignored anymore because it's super stupid and comes from ill mannered habit which indicates that if you speak about emotions you are weak. It costs Lithuanians specially, as we lead Europe in suicides (mainly men).

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  • Straight forward
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    Super open and fun interview with Saras. He mocks LKF election system, but speaks highly about Balciunas. Says that he reads Lithuanian BB media. Mocks FIBA and windows, says Buzelis big talent and mentions Jakucionis as promising kid, and his son as the fan of Curry.

    To me this one was the highlight:

    "We shouldn't lie. In Europe there are two schools - Serbian and Spanish. We, Lithuanians, were always achieving something because of talent and very big unselfishness"

    I share google translation:

    Šarūnas Jasikevičius jau antrąjį sezoną leidžia Barselonoje, įsikūrusioje beveik už 3 tūkstančių kilometrų nuo Lietuvos, bet įvykius gimtinėje seka įdėmiai, kasdien perversdamas...

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  • Straight forward
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    Good illustration why I'm so low on our coaches. OK, shooting coach (the one that has been working with Jr. Marciulionis). He should know everything about shooting, that's his bread and butter. And he says complete nonsense, like out of this world nonsense. "Shooter should shoot 60% threes". Jesus Christ...this is crazy. God forbid such shooting specialists.

    „Delfi TV“ eteryje – laida „Krepšinio zona“. Joje pokalbis apie vis labiau ryškėjantį ne tik mesti, bet ir pataikyti į krepšį galinčių žaidėjų deficitą mūsų ...

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  • Toruko
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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    Real, yes, they lost a lot, but CSKA...nope, that's all on them. And after all they almost knock out Efes in the final 4. They were one good shot away from that
    They lacked guards even with James and without him they were totally outmatched let alone losing Milutinov. Efes made things more interesting that it should be. Normally, it would have been a 20 points margin game.

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  • Straight forward
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    Real, yes, they lost a lot, but CSKA...nope, that's all on them. And after all they almost knock out Efes in the final 4. They were one good shot away from that

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  • Straight forward
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    Originally posted by Toruko View Post
    But he made many mistakes. Especially leashing all the players not trusting them was a mistake. His archaic and ugly game plan was also an obstacle. He is guilty by not trusting his players. He cant be blamed fully because of the bad engineering for the roster last season but the move this season so far is worse tbh.

    Playing final in a season Real and CSKA lost almost all pillars to the NBA is not a success. I wouldnt say he is a bad coach but he is surely not a good coach as well.
    I agree that he should reconsider some of his ways, to allow more natural flow and a bit more liberal shooting overall, but he believes that he can give players even better chances to take their shots under set offense. On other hand, who besides Higgins could really go ISO? Basically, none. Mirotic is not an ISO scorer. Davies is pretty good at it, but he's a center with non reliable jumper.

    Saying that Saras is not a good coach is too far reaching He lead mediocre Zalgiris' to several PO appearances and even final 4. Now he brought Barsa to final 4, he won regular season, that's something Pesic wasn't able to do with similar quality rosters.

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  • Straight forward
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    Originally posted by Toruko View Post
    But he made many mistakes. Especially leashing all the players not trusting them was a mistake. His archaic and ugly game plan was also an obstacle. He is guilty by not trusting his players. He cant be blamed fully because of the bad engineering for the roster last season but the move this season so far is worse tbh.

    Playing final in a season Real and CSKA lost almost all pillars to the NBA is not a success. I wouldnt say he is a bad coach but he is surely not a good coach as well.
    I agree that he should reconsider some of his ways, to allow more natural flow and a bit more liberal shooting overall, but he believes that he can give players even better chances to take their shots under set offense. On other hand, who besides Higgins could really go ISO? Basically, none. Mirotic is not an ISO scorer. Davies is pretty good at it, but he's a center with non reliable jumper.

    Saying that Saras is not a good coach is too far reaching He lead mediocre Zalgiris' to several PO appearances and even final 4. Now he brought Barsa to final 4, he won regular season, that's something Pesic wasn't able to do with similar quality rosters.

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  • Toruko
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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    Summa summarum Jasikevicius proved his worth. 2 titles in ACB. Euroleague's final after a long time for Barsa. Good first season. I think objectively Efes had more talent and more chemistry than rebuilding Barsa, so can't blame Jasikevicius on this one.
    But he made many mistakes. Especially leashing all the players not trusting them was a mistake. His archaic and ugly game plan was also an obstacle. He is guilty by not trusting his players. He cant be blamed fully because of the bad engineering for the roster last season but the move this season so far is worse tbh.

    Playing final in a season Real and CSKA lost almost all pillars to the NBA is not a success. I wouldnt say he is a bad coach but he is surely not a good coach as well.

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  • Straight forward
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    Summa summarum Jasikevicius proved his worth. 2 titles in ACB. Euroleague's final after a long time for Barsa. Good first season. I think objectively Efes had more talent and more chemistry than rebuilding Barsa, so can't blame Jasikevicius on this one.

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  • Mindozas
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    Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
    What i understood from the experience watching basketball is that a coach who does not bad (not great but quite decent) usually is not appreciated and the thing is that to find a coach who would do better is less chances than to find a one who would do worse. Let's take the same Rytas. The team by Adomaitis wasn't great but generally he did well with that squad. In spite of the fact, pretty much everybody welcomed Kairys instead of him. Some Straight Forward especially should have liked him because of intelligence, good speaking and communication that are the qualities that suits a coach the best by him. And what? Or the same Adomaitis would still be a coach of NT? In most cases worse things don't happen if a decent coach gets a credit.

    With your logic you could say the same about Shiller. He do mistakes there and there and should be responsible for a bad LKL rotation and that the team lacked power in the end of EL season. So unless Zalgiris doesn't have bigger ambitions to reach top8 he is ok.
    It's your logic not mine

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  • Dreamcatcher
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    Originally posted by Mindozas View Post
    I don't underrate what he did, I just think it wasn't that hard or impressive, bearing in mind that when he was appointed team was at rock bottom and only LKL left to play, so no more pressure, not much faith, not big expectations. Any new coach in such situation usually finds that balance and brings fresh air. He basically did what he had to, but that's it. I don't see much of improvement game wise, only psychological balance and Rytas still winning games with just individual skills. Even against Zalgiris his pre-game tactics/risks almost cost Rytas the game early, but Zalgiris screw up the same way like vs Maccabi. Maybe he'll be good with time to come, improve his knowledge, but I don't see him as full time coach in Rytas for next season. Again, unless Rytas doesn't have bigger ambitions. In some BCL they'll need more than just good chemistry to win the games
    What i understood from the experience watching basketball is that a coach who does not bad (not great but quite decent) usually is not appreciated and the thing is that to find a coach who would do better is less chances than to find a one who would do worse. Let's take the same Rytas. The team by Adomaitis wasn't great but generally he did well with that squad. In spite of the fact, pretty much everybody welcomed Kairys instead of him. Some Straight Forward especially should have liked him because of intelligence, good speaking and communication that are the qualities that suits a coach the best by him. And what? Or the same Adomaitis would still be a coach of NT? In most cases worse things don't happen if a decent coach gets a credit.

    With your logic you could say the same about Shiller. He do mistakes there and there and should be responsible for a bad LKL rotation and that the team lacked power in the end of EL season. So unless Zalgiris doesn't have bigger ambitions to reach top8 he is ok.

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  • Mindozas
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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    Now, yes, he's just getting his feet wet, but I think he has potential to become legit head coach. He's still very young, 37yo, seems to be a hard worker, intelligent, has some natural qualities as a coach (communication), has sense for timeouts, reacts live solidly. If he can add a lot KNOW HOW with experience, he might be a coach. Let's consider that he couldn't change much in the mid season, he didn't have time, players come and go (literally or due injuries/virus), it's logical to keep it simple now, to build on hustle and team spirit. Or maybe he will remain mediocrity, but a good feeling about him. Oh, boy, how some guys would suck in his position, I wouldn't underrate what he did recently. The thing that there's no obvious BS from his side under these circumstances and how he managed to balance and unite the team it's pretty impressive. The word is said that Zavackas did a good job as well, setting strict understand team's inside policy and shit...
    I don't underrate what he did, I just think it wasn't that hard or impressive, bearing in mind that when he was appointed team was at rock bottom and only LKL left to play, so no more pressure, not much faith, not big expectations. Any new coach in such situation usually finds that balance and brings fresh air. He basically did what he had to, but that's it. I don't see much of improvement game wise, only psychological balance and Rytas still winning games with just individual skills. Even against Zalgiris his pre-game tactics/risks almost cost Rytas the game early, but Zalgiris screw up the same way like vs Maccabi. Maybe he'll be good with time to come, improve his knowledge, but I don't see him as full time coach in Rytas for next season. Again, unless Rytas doesn't have bigger ambitions. In some BCL they'll need more than just good chemistry to win the games

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