Domantas Sabonis thread

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Wow, that's next level homerism. I thought madmax is the biggest one here, but you exceeded him. You are so pathetic homer of JV that you can't even celebrate the fact that Lith Domas is the leader or rebounds in the NBA ATM and last season and he does that for a winning team. Sorry, but you are an old pathetic man...When you open Domas Sabonis wikipedia, there's that line in awards and highlights section - NBA rebounding leader (2023). For you it's more important to lick your darlings ass, like it's relevant It's pretty sad...

BTW, their per minute rebounding are equal this season. This means LTU have 3 great rebounder. To me NBA rebounding leader is the best rebounder in the world. I guess all the dudes who had better rebounding per minute that Rodman in the NBA when he was averaging 15-18rpg were better than him. Go play your homer games on some-one elses time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/who-has-the-best-rebounds-per-minute-this-year-in-the-nba

[Shawshank]

Valanciunas is second best lithuanian rebounder ever.

Only Big Sabas was more dominant here looking at averages


So all this Domas best world rebounder is a joke statement,when he is not even best lithuanian rebounder .


How do think it easier to grab alot rebounds when Gobert+Towns or Valanciunas+Zion shares the floor together in one situation

Or grab rebounds when player is the only big in entire team and plays with 4 guards/Wings and PF on that team is 2m02 Barnes that stand near 3 point line all the time ? Also that only teams big will play clearly more minutes



Listen if you cant see clear numbers cant help. Numbers dont lie,but biased fan eyes always does.


In all levels Valanciunas rebound per minute is better including nba .One player played 500+games other 800+ games.

Those numbers are stable and wont change dramatically anymore.

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2019 Sabonis 6,3reb in 24min player X 8,8reb in 22,5min

2021 Sabonis 8reb in 27min player X 9,5reb in 22min

2022 Sabonis 7,3reb in 29min player X 10,5reb in 28min

2023 Sedekerkis 7,3reb in 23min player X 8,8reb in 21min



All time LTU NT best rebouder

1.Player X 652reb
2.A.Sabonis 548reb
3.Einikis 507reb

JV is an elite rebounder. Never said he was trash. He actually is one of the best rebounders in traffic in the world, just as Domas. But also in the NT he has been playing the 5 position ALL THE TIME, while Domas never had that luxury. Sabonis is better rebounder that JV, but both are elite. Look at Sabonis Youth rebounding numbers, they are superior than JVs.

[Shawshank]

That means All Star has been a back-up for some-one at 5

Thats means simply somebody rebounds better than best world rebounder


I never heard anybody being backup and playing more minutes on average than ale that starter.

[Shawshank]

2019 Sabonis 6,3reb in 24min player X 8,8reb in 22,5min

2021 Sabonis 8reb in 27min player X 9,5reb in 22min

2022 Sabonis 7,3reb in 29min player X 10,5reb in 28min

2023 Sedekerkis 7,3reb in 23min player X 8,8reb in 21min



All time LTU NT best rebouders

1.Player X 652reb
2.A.Sabonis 548reb
3.Einikis 507reb

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So if Domas best worlds rebounder,Sedekerskis best euroleague rebounders and ltu also have a player who always outrebounds both of them in less playing time too


How to call such player? best lithuanian rebounder?

That means All Star has been a back-up for some-one at 5

[Shawshank]

So if Domas best worlds rebounder,Sedekerskis best euroleague rebounders and ltu also have a player who always outrebounds both of them in less playing time too


How to call such player? best lithuanian rebounder?

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He is a great rebounder, yeah.

One of the best rebounders ever surely. Gobert, Jokic and Sabonis are the best ever from Europeans. Sabonis holds 28rbs record in FIBA youth game. Kanter had 25, JV 24 I think, but no-one exceeded that. Kanter was sensational rebounder in Youth level, he had 16,5rpg and 16,4rpg tournaments, but he never reached 28 in a game and in NBA he never reached over 11rpg. Sabonis is probably yet to have his best rebounding season.

Overall, Rodman is the bes tall time. I exclude vintage players as B. Russel and Chamberlain, the game was different. Rondman dominate in modern era, with 18rpg seasons.

[Toruko]

Sabonis is the rebounding king of NBA again, after 21 and 19 rebounding games. So LTU has the best rebounder in the world and best EL rebounder (Sedekerskis). Match these 2 and they will be cleaning the boards at both ends. Lithuania is posed to be the best rebounding team in Olympics if we make it there. Lithuania was 4th in WC. With Sabonis playing starters minutes, we would end up at 1 in the world.

He is a great rebounder, yeah.

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Sabonis is the rebounding king of NBA again, after 21 and 19 rebounding games. So LTU has the best rebounder in the world and best EL rebounder (Sedekerskis). Match these 2 and they will be cleaning the boards at both ends. Lithuania is posed to be the best rebounding team in Olympics if we make it there. Lithuania was 4th in WC. With Sabonis playing starters minutes, we would end up at 1 in the world.

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Sabonis on a beast mode again after a little slump. 21rbs and 12ast game in just 23min. Beast. On his way to be the best rebouder in the league again and shows up in MVP race again (stands 9th ATM). If we take aside vintage players, there's only 3 players in the game who goes after 20rbs and 10as in the game. Jokic (7 times), Westbrook and Sabonis (4 times). We can speak about the stat padding league now, but only 3 modern players are/were able to do that in the game.

https://twitter.com/bol_dont_lie/status/1741725911253500072

[Shawshank]

nba all star Sabonis have so manny chances to proof that he is way better but for one or other reason he score less,grab less rebounds in more played minutes in fiba courts in those 4tournaments they played together

when they face in nba is tottaly equall fight going on,it doesnt look like one is nba all star and other is veteran that on his way out of the league.12 games is like 2long series,those numbers is not accidental of random possible bad days

Sabonis will be 28 i 2024 that age when all timers have their best fiba tournaments.

compared to nba play Sabonis play in NT is way bigger dissapointment.If Domas gonna be affraid to take wide open 3-4 meters jumpers will be problematic to dominate i fiba again

But Sabonis have no more excuses,he cant have again just Jankunas level tournament.He must dominate like nba star should i dont wanna hear that coach,teammates or opponent was bad matchup. This is his total peak go and make it happen

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Even if when we assume you are right. No coach could left JV aside. Talking about this is a mere dream and nothing more. It is true that the LTU NT trusts him too much offensively.

That's the sad part. JV is big darling of LTU fans and big personality. We kinda sacrify our team interest for the sake of matching JV's status in the NT which is ridiculous. Was JV positive in the game against Serbia? No, Milutinov screwed him. Milutinov overall was better, not even statistically, but overall much better player in WC than Valanciunas. Why we praise JV for being NBA player if Milutonovs out play him...It's funny...We badly need to turn the page and go ahead with him playing limited role or retiring. We played this oldschool loving JV redneck game for way too long. 8 years of misery is enough.

[Toruko]

JV started to regress lately. It was evident in WC that he took one step down defensively, became even slower and it hurts us even more than ever. He had some negative +/- when Lithuania was winning everything in the group stage. Sabonis on other hand didn't play in WC and last season was by far his best season, ALL NBA season. In 2022 he started badly, but then adjusted and looked better than JV at the end of the tournament. I think ATM there's no question who is superior even in FIBA. One of the key thing here is that Sabonis must play at 5 and show his ability to set the pace as the guy in the middle. You can't keep him at 4 as some kind of stretch piece, you take away the best of what he has. And that's how NT used Sabonis for many minutes.

I personally think that NT would benefit going without Valanciunas in Olympics. Guys as Sabonis, Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis, Grigonis, Sedekerskis would take even more responsibility offensively, we would play faster and be much better team defensively. Slow JV is such a bummer defensively. To me he's basically unplayable. Even when he scores, he gets even more defensively.

Even if when we assume you are right. No coach could left JV aside. Talking about this is a mere dream and nothing more. It is true that the LTU NT trusts him too much offensively.

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As a traditional board- center JV has less value in the NBA because the court has more space and JV is too slow for open space but I would really say that for NT the strength and space he covers he has more value than Sabonis at least this was the case in the last 3-4 tournaments.

JV started to regress lately. It was evident in WC that he took one step down defensively, became even slower and it hurts us even more than ever. He had some negative +/- when Lithuania was winning everything in the group stage. Sabonis on other hand didn't play in WC and last season was by far his best season, ALL NBA season. In 2022 he started badly, but then adjusted and looked better than JV at the end of the tournament. I think ATM there's no question who is superior even in FIBA. One of the key thing here is that Sabonis must play at 5 and show his ability to set the pace as the guy in the middle. You can't keep him at 4 as some kind of stretch piece, you take away the best of what he has. And that's how NT used Sabonis for many minutes.

I personally think that NT would benefit going without Valanciunas in Olympics. Guys as Sabonis, Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis, Grigonis, Sedekerskis would take even more responsibility offensively, we would play faster and be much better team defensively. Slow JV is such a bummer defensively. To me he's basically unplayable. Even when he scores, he gets even more defensively.