Domantas Sabonis thread

[Shawshank]

So if Domas best worlds rebounder,Sedekerskis best euroleague rebounders and ltu also have a player who always outrebounds both of them in less playing time too


How to call such player? best lithuanian rebounder?

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So if Domas best worlds rebounder,Sedekerskis best euroleague rebounders and ltu also have a player who always outrebounds both of them in less playing time too


How to call such player? best lithuanian rebounder?

That means All Star has been a back-up for some-one at 5

[Shawshank]

2019 Sabonis 6,3reb in 24min player X 8,8reb in 22,5min

2021 Sabonis 8reb in 27min player X 9,5reb in 22min

2022 Sabonis 7,3reb in 29min player X 10,5reb in 28min

2023 Sedekerkis 7,3reb in 23min player X 8,8reb in 21min



All time LTU NT best rebouders

1.Player X 652reb
2.A.Sabonis 548reb
3.Einikis 507reb

[Shawshank]

That means All Star has been a back-up for some-one at 5

Thats means simply somebody rebounds better than best world rebounder


I never heard anybody being backup and playing more minutes on average than ale that starter.

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2019 Sabonis 6,3reb in 24min player X 8,8reb in 22,5min

2021 Sabonis 8reb in 27min player X 9,5reb in 22min

2022 Sabonis 7,3reb in 29min player X 10,5reb in 28min

2023 Sedekerkis 7,3reb in 23min player X 8,8reb in 21min



All time LTU NT best rebouder

1.Player X 652reb
2.A.Sabonis 548reb
3.Einikis 507reb

JV is an elite rebounder. Never said he was trash. He actually is one of the best rebounders in traffic in the world, just as Domas. But also in the NT he has been playing the 5 position ALL THE TIME, while Domas never had that luxury. Sabonis is better rebounder that JV, but both are elite. Look at Sabonis Youth rebounding numbers, they are superior than JVs.

[Shawshank]

Valanciunas is second best lithuanian rebounder ever.

Only Big Sabas was more dominant here looking at averages


So all this Domas best world rebounder is a joke statement,when he is not even best lithuanian rebounder .


How do think it easier to grab alot rebounds when Gobert+Towns or Valanciunas+Zion shares the floor together in one situation

Or grab rebounds when player is the only big in entire team and plays with 4 guards/Wings and PF on that team is 2m02 Barnes that stand near 3 point line all the time ? Also that only teams big will play clearly more minutes



Listen if you cant see clear numbers cant help. Numbers dont lie,but biased fan eyes always does.


In all levels Valanciunas rebound per minute is better including nba .One player played 500+games other 800+ games.

Those numbers are stable and wont change dramatically anymore.

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Wow, that's next level homerism. I thought madmax is the biggest one here, but you exceeded him. You are so pathetic homer of JV that you can't even celebrate the fact that Lith Domas is the leader or rebounds in the NBA ATM and last season and he does that for a winning team. Sorry, but you are an old pathetic man...When you open Domas Sabonis wikipedia, there's that line in awards and highlights section - NBA rebounding leader (2023). For you it's more important to lick your darlings ass, like it's relevant It's pretty sad...

BTW, their per minute rebounding are equal this season. This means LTU have 3 great rebounder. To me NBA rebounding leader is the best rebounder in the world. I guess all the dudes who had better rebounding per minute that Rodman in the NBA when he was averaging 15-18rpg were better than him. Go play your homer games on some-one elses time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/who-has-the-best-rebounds-per-minute-this-year-in-the-nba

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And I guess Eugene Omoruyi and Anfernee Simons are better scorers than Jokic, if we follow this great logic...

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/points-per-minute-leaders-this-nba-season

[Shawshank]

2019 Sabonis 6,3reb in 24min player X 8,8reb in 22,5min

2021 Sabonis 8reb in 27min player X 9,5reb in 22min

2022 Sabonis 7,3reb in 29min player X 10,5reb in 28min

2023 Sedekerkis 7,3reb in 23min player X 8,8reb in 21min



Im simple man i see repeating pattern and i make conclusions .I not interesting for your lame excuses.

All star level player should come and dominate and not searching for him personally perfect situation to play well.


For top 30 world players every situation should be easy to adapt and dominate playing lower level players.

He can be outscored and outrebounded by 125th best nba player every single summer or wont be able to post up and score on players like ulebs PF 2m02 Muric types or 2m01 PG Doncic


Enough excuses for all star player its time for him to come and ball like all star should at his peak 28 or shut up forever about his greatness



Looking at his teams successes Domas have nothing to show: neither in youth,neither in college,neither in NT,neither in nba.

Not a single all time great become one with just individual stats.

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Domas have nothing to show (...)neither in nba.

Your homersim again is so funny Compare JVs achievements in NBA and Sabonis.

JVs:

• NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2013)

Domas:

3 All Stars games
All NBA third team
NBA rebounding champion

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Some people are so dumb that they can't understand that to put Sabonis at 4 is the same shit as to put JV at 4. It's the same nonsense. Sabonis is way worse at 4. JV would be trash at 4 anywhere. The same with Sabonis. When JV is comfortably play all his minutes at 5, he has huge advantage against Sabonis who is forced to spend more than half of his minutes outside his natural position. If you don't understand this, you're an idiot. But you're more of pathetic homer, than an idiot. Go figure why Jokic was so meh in 2019 WC.

[Toruko]

Some people are so dumb that they can't understand that to put Sabonis at 4 is the same shit as to put JV at 4. It's the same nonsense. Sabonis is way worse at 4. JV would be trash at 4 anywhere. The same with Sabonis. When JV is comfortably play all his minutes at 5, he has huge advantage against Sabonis who is forced to spend more than half of his minutes outside his natural position. If you don't understand this, you're an idiot. But you're more of pathetic homer, than an idiot. Go figure why Jokic was so meh in 2019 WC.

Be nice. He is your countryman and he never attacks you personally.

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Be nice. He is your countryman and he never attacks you personally.

Some people prefer such language. I give him that. It's his choice. He doesn't need no defenders.

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Here's the deal. Why I find shawshank's argument inadequate. JV had tons of tournaments where he played entirely (all minutes) in his natural position. There was no single tournament as such for Sabonis. I say, give him that. Let him play the 5. If he will suck and will be worse than JV, we will simply witness that JV is a better player in FIBA court. That's actually realistic scenario cause Sabonis surely doesn't feel that comfortable in FIBA. But it's also a fact that Sabonis never had such opportunity yet and that's pretty crazy. He came to 2022 Eurobasket as 2 times ALL STAR. And in 2024 he most likely will come as 4 times All Star and 2 times All NBA guys and he still won't get that luxury to have a single tournament when he can play entirely at 5 I simply want to see what Sabonis can bring for LTU NT playing 28mpg at 5 entirely. I don't think it's that crazy thing to ask for 4 time All Star. JV already had 8 tournaments like that. Sabonis can have at leas one, I think

[Shawshank]

Again excuses excuses... When 30th best nba player Domas will take some responsability for letting 120th best Valanciunas outperform him again and again in less played minutes? He had alot of chance at C alone ,Nt didnt become better.

NT without Domas both times in 2017 and 2023 if anything looked better from eye test and become group winners.With Domas NT never won even a group stage,forget playoofs game


Team achievements not individual. Can you even read?

All time greats is those which individual stats was bringing his team to achievements


Valanciunas have 2 medals with NT,Won everything in youth, His nba teams have won 3 playoofs serries and once made conference finals


Sabonis team achievements?


with youth nt wasnt making out of the group mostly or lost in first round

In Ncaa loosing in first rounds

in NT loosing in 1st rounds

in nba loosing in first rounds and zero playoofs series wins



Show me where such non shooting, ball dominate elite passing center style worked vs any prepared playoofs defences?

Its works regular season or friendly NT games vs unprepared opponents