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  • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
    It's not the final rooster yet

    As Maccabifan19 stated correctly, Maccabi will have 6 foreigners and 6 israelis.

    As I don't know who'll come next, I put Eidson on 2. Obviously, He can play all positions from 1-3.

    But I doo believe that Foote will stay


    I doubt it(that Foote will stay)
    and yes
    Eidson can play all kind of positions
    but I think that the best positions for him are 1 and 3

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    • Originally posted by granger View Post
      Perkins/Torrance
      Eidson/Burstein/Sharp
      Pnini/Bluthental
      Hendrix/Kadir
      Foote/Green
      Hendrix can easily play C (if not against top tier euroleague clubs), Bluth could cover PF ,Eidson is anything , but a pure shooter

      In my view , it's more like:

      Perkins/Torrance
      _/Burstein/Sharp
      Eidson/Pnini
      Bluthental/Kadir
      Hendrix/Foote/Green

      The biggest hole is @ SG. Probably some experienced center is missing too: if signed Foote could be loaned to another team ( due to 6 foreigners rule in BSL)

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      • Originally posted by Billy Bounce View Post
        Hendrix can easily play C (if not against top tier euroleague clubs), Bluth could cover PF ,Eidson is anything , but a pure shooter

        In my view , it's more like:

        Perkins/Torrance
        _/Burstein/Sharp
        Eidson/Pnini
        Bluthental/Kadir
        Hendrix/Foote/Green

        The biggest hole is @ SG. Probably some experienced center is missing too: if signed Foote could be loaned to another team ( due to 6 foreigners rule in BSL)
        Eidson is NOT a pure shooter
        absolutely not..he's best as a PG or as a small forward..but he's not a pure shooter..no way in hell
        and I disagree about ''the biggest hole'' we have enough players that can play SG(even Torrance)
        C is our main need right now..Maccabi has to loan Foote and bring one natural C(like Kasun)and one PF/C like Luka Zoric
        I prefer two big players then 1 big man and 1 SG because we won't have a good back up in case of injury and/or foul problem(unless you consider Green/Kadir as a good back up)

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        • Originally posted by Maccabi_Fan19 View Post
          Eidson is NOT a pure shooter
          absolutely not..he's best as a PG or as a small forward..but he's not a pure shooter..no way in hell
          That's exactly what I wrote
          and I disagree about ''the biggest hole'' we have enough players that can play SG(even Torrance)
          3pts line goes to NBA range in 2010-2011 , so at least one pure shooter is needed as air. Torrance was ~0.38% @NCAA , so in Euroleague his percents could drop even lower

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          • I only copy rooster from signature of winnetou_dombrowsky, so don`t blame me for position of some player in rooster

            why most of you are sure that foote is going on loan? I personaly thinks that maccabi wouldn`t bring any big players, so foote will stay in team.

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            • Originally posted by granger View Post
              I only copy rooster from signature of winnetou_dombrowsky, so don`t blame me for position of some player in rooster

              why most of you are sure that foote is going on loan? I personaly thinks that maccabi wouldn`t bring any big players, so foote will stay in team.

              oh Maccabi will sign some big guys..no doubt about that(Blatt said it today)
              and Foote will go on a loan becuase he is a great talent but not a great player...can help Maccabi this year..so he won't get any playing-time..he's a young player that needs minutes so..sending him on a loan is for his own good

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              • Originally posted by Maccabi_Fan19 View Post
                oh Maccabi will sign some big guys..no doubt about that(Blatt said it today)
                and Foote will go on a loan becuase he is a great talent but not a great player...can help Maccabi this year..so he won't get any playing-time..he's a young player that needs minutes so..sending him on a loan is for his own good
                I agree that Maccabi will bring one or two big guys to complete the rooster.

                But I think that Maccabi should have one Israeli starter. Eidson may not be among the best in Europe from long range, but Pnini and Bluthental sure are.
                Last edited by winnetou_dombrowsky; 07-25-2010, 10:31 PM.

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                • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
                  I agree that Macabi will bring one or two big guys to complete the rooster.

                  But I think that Maccabi should have one Israeli starter. Eidson may not be among the best in Europe from long range, but Pnini and Bluthental sure are.

                  of course Maccabi would have an Israeli starter..Burstein
                  I see our starting line-up like that
                  Perkins(if he would end up staying..if not then the PG that would replace him)
                  Burstein
                  Eidson
                  Hendrix
                  New(foreign)C

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                  • Originally posted by Maccabi_Fan19 View Post
                    of course Maccabi would have an Israeli starter..Burstein
                    I see our starting line-up like that
                    Perkins(if he would end up staying..if not then the PG that would replace him)
                    Burstein
                    Eidson
                    Hendrix
                    New(foreign)C
                    that would mean Burstein/Sharp combo on 2. I'd love that, and I believe it can work out if both stay healthy.

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                    • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
                      that would mean Burstein/Sharp combo on 2. I'd love that, and I believe it can work out if both stay healthy.

                      I actually really doubt the fact that Sharp would play an important role in Maccabi
                      people were mad at Pini for not giving him enough playing-time but he was right..Sharp is there for the fighting spirit and everytime the crowd started asking for Derrick he told him to step in..
                      bottom line and the point of what I just said? Derrick won't be an important part next year..he won't be the first replacement for Burstein(which I believe will start)maybe Torrance will be..maybe Blatt is planning to use Blu(god that's going to be hard to get used to)as a 2 cause the 3 position is so crowded now

                      but yes I believe that the starting line-up will be
                      Perkins(different high-profile PG)
                      Burstein
                      Eidson
                      Hendrix
                      New(foreign)C

                      it's a very smart line-up with 3 players that can move the ball around

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                      • Originally posted by Maccabi_Fan19 View Post
                        I actually really doubt the fact that Sharp would play an important role in Maccabi
                        people were mad at Pini for not giving him enough playing-time but he was right..Sharp is there for the fighting spirit and everytime the crowd started asking for Derrick he told him to step in..
                        bottom line and the point of what I just said? Derrick won't be an important part next year..he won't be the first replacement for Burstein(which I believe will start)maybe Torrance will be..maybe Blatt is planning to use Blu(god that's going to be hard to get used to)as a 2 cause the 3 position is so crowded now

                        but yes I believe that the starting line-up will be
                        Perkins(different high-profile PG)
                        Burstein
                        Eidson
                        Hendrix
                        New(foreign)C

                        it's a very smart line-up with 3 players that can move the ball around
                        Well, I'd love to see Sharp playing for about 15 min. a game and I think he could do that, still, he's the only player in Maccabi where I'd really say that his age is an issue.
                        Maybe you're right, and the 2 will look like this: Burstein/Torrence/Sharp and another PG will sign to back up for Perkins.

                        G'D, I just hope that Perkins will stay, for me, he's in the same league with McIntyre, McCalebb, Holden or Logan.
                        But so much more good value for money and so much more likeable

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                        • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
                          Well, I'd love to see Sharp playing for about 15 min. a game and I think he could do that, still, he's the only player in Maccabi where I'd really say that his age is an issue.
                          Maybe you're right, and the 2 will look like this: Burstein/Torrence/Sharp and another PG will sign to back up for Perkins.

                          G'D, I just hope that Perkins will stay, for me, he's in the same league with McIntyre, McCalebb, Holden or Logan.
                          But so much more good value for money and so much more likeable

                          I don't think Sharp can play 15 min..no way
                          he's not a great defender like he used to be
                          he can't do anything but shoot 3s..
                          trust me I LOVE him..but he can't play 15 min..maybe when Maccabi is in trouble

                          I thought of this line-up(during the game,after the starting line-up)
                          Torrance
                          Blu
                          Eidson
                          Kadir
                          New(foreign)C

                          this way,Torrance can be PG but he can also move to the SG position
                          Blu will play SF and Eidson PG

                          and yes you're right about Perkins..I totally agree I don't think he's any less of a player then McClaebb
                          plus,he really really loves Maccabi and WANTS to stay even if it'll cost him money and a better contract somewhere else
                          I don't know why they haven't offered him a decent offer already
                          Wiz can get payed at 1M but Perkins can't even get 600K?

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                          • Originally posted by Maccabi_Fan19 View Post
                            I don't think Sharp can play 15 min..no way
                            he's not a great defender like he used to be
                            he can't do anything but shoot 3s..
                            trust me I LOVE him..but he can't play 15 min..maybe when Maccabi is in trouble

                            I thought of this line-up(during the game,after the starting line-up)
                            Torrance
                            Blu
                            Eidson
                            Kadir
                            New(foreign)C

                            this way,Torrance can be PG but he can also move to the SG position
                            Blu will play SF and Eidson PG

                            and yes you're right about Perkins..I totally agree I don't think he's any less of a player then McClaebb
                            plus,he really really loves Maccabi and WANTS to stay even if it'll cost him money and a better contract somewhere else
                            I don't know why they haven't offered him a decent offer already
                            Wiz can get payed at 1M but Perkins can't even get 600K?
                            I agree with you. Your mid game lineup sounds interesting, though I'd rather play Handrix for a lot of time and leave Kadir mainly for games in the israeli league. hendrix brings just so much power to the game.

                            About Perkins, I think that the 450 k they're offering him are more than reasonable, it's just that the other "big" european clubs notoriously overpay their players.
                            And two mistakes by Maccabi in the last two years, namely paying Arroyo 2.5 M. and Wiz 1 M. such large salaries...that was dumb and even an insult to a player like Saras, who's so much better than those two but Maccabi never bothered to pay him even close to that.

                            Anyway, if Perkins will stay, I'll be more than happy

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                            • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
                              I agree with you. Your mid game lineup sounds interesting, though I'd rather play Handrix for a lot of time and leave Kadir mainly for games in the israeli league. hendrix brings just so much power to the game.

                              About Perkins, I think that the 450 k they're offering him are more than reasonable, it's just that the other "big" european clubs notoriously overpay their players.
                              And two mistakes by Maccabi in the last two years, namely paying Arroyo 2.5 M. and Wiz 1 M. such large salaries...that was dumb and even an insult to a player like Saras, who's so much better than those two but Maccabi never bothered to pay him even close to that.

                              Anyway, if Perkins will stay, I'll be more than happy
                              I agree with you on Hendrix BUT...you have 2 things to take into consideration here..
                              1)Hendrix can't play 30-35 minutes and then give another 20 minutes in the Israeli league..it would kill him..
                              2)remember we only have 2 PF(Kadir and Hendrix)and I'm not saying anything about Blu because he's not a PF and I don't want the same thing to happen this year when we played with 1 real big guy and one SF(Pnini/Blu)I want a real PF and a real C on the court at all times

                              and yes,Arroyo and Wiz were overpayed but Perkins deserves more then 450K(and as I understand it Maccabi is offering him 500K)
                              I think he deserves around 600K and that would be completely fair.
                              if McCalebb is really getting payed 1.5M euro a year(even if it's a total it's 750K euro per year)then he's COMPLETELY OVERPAYED
                              I don't want to bet my money on this one but I doubt it if he'd still have the same reputation next season

                              and just one last thing about Hendrix..I think he's going to be in the top 3 of Maccabi players next May when the season is over
                              I think he's going to continue his great rebounding skills and would be a great player to count on in the paint

                              and let's just hope that this..''financial season'' is really just this season and next summer we'd see an improvement..because people are saying ''financial season''..could be the begining of a new era where Maccabi just won't spend...ever!

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                              • Originally posted by winnetou_dombrowsky View Post
                                100% agree.


                                Anyway, how do you see Maccabi on the wings?
                                SG Eidson/Burstein/Sharp
                                SF Pnini/Bluthental
                                sounds pretty solid to me, especially because I really do believe that Pnini is a very good SF and I put my trust on a very good, experienced (and fit) Burstein - Bluthental combo of the bench.

                                Anyway, as Blatt spoke about the importance of bringing back the Israeli character to the team (a top prioritiy in my opinion), it's vital for Maccabi to have an israeli starter in the lineup.
                                Just like Burstein in the great team of 2004-2005.

                                Do you think that Pnini is ready for the challenge (he's 26) or can you imagine Halperin coming back to play at SF, leaving aside the high costs.
                                Perkins/Torrance
                                Eidson
                                Halperin
                                in the backcourt would be phenomenal, 'cause a guy like Halperin with his shooting skills and high basketball IQ would be the perfect addition to Eidsons leadership and presence together with the power and drive from an american PG.

                                But you're right, lets wait and see...
                                Halperin is a combo-guard and can't play SF. He is not tall enough, not athletic enough, not explosive enough. He is a pure guard with very god skills and great basketball IQ who makes pretty much nothing out of his abilities because he lack the kind of chutzpah Oded Katash used to have.

                                MTA's current roster is not athletic enough and lacks a true scorer. I think, Pnini will start at SF and Bluth will come off the bench, as Bluth is able to play two positions better than Pnini does. Bluth is a matchup problem offensively. Sharp will hardly get any playing time, especially in the EL. His value is in different aspects for this team, that's why they've prolonged his contract. I don't see enough specialists on this team aside from Bluthenthal, who can come in especially to hit threes. Not enough dribblers from the wing, who can actually put the ball on the floor. Pnini doesn't have a left hand, while Bluth is slow and not a good dribbler. However, lots of unselfish players who can pass (Burstein, Eidson, Torrance, Perkins to some extent, maybe Scheer, Foote is one of those big guys with passing skills).

                                What about Scheyer? His name wasn't mentioned recently anymore. Isn't the signing of Torrance (what will be his salary?) a sign that Scheyer won't come? Then again, signing Scheer in addition will prevent Halperin from joining the squad next year.

                                What about Perkins? How many years does MTA want to keep him on the team? I'd offer him a multi-year contract now with an increase each year with bonuses for certain team success.

                                Guys, Wisniewski never made a million bucks in Israel. Lampe was the highest paid player last season with slightly over a million and Anderson was a close second. Wiz never got more than 400.000 - 550.000. If a million was mentioned, then it was for two years at least. After all, he has never played in the EL, has never distinguished himself that much that he could demand such a salary and MTA is not a team that would overpay a player, especially one like him.

                                Even if the current roster looks thin on paper, Blatt is known to be able to squeeze more out of his teams than what they'd give you on paper. As long as players play a committed D and a smart O, they'll get their PT. Blatt is one of those coached, who can adapt to a situation, he has been thrown into. The other category of coaches can coach only in one certain way and they'll never get the maximum out of their players as they are not using them at their best (case by case) but put them in their inflexible schemes. Luka Pavicevic of Alba Berlin is such a guy, for example.
                                burnstein

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