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  • #16
    The way it goes, if we look at each player's family tree, we may end up saying that there isn't any 100% greek in the team ​​​​​​

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tonia View Post
      The way it goes, if we look at each player's family tree, we may end up saying that there isn't any 100% greek in the team ​​​​​​
      In the opposite we have to find more immigrants with special athletic skills and integrate them as fast as possible in the NT.
      You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

        In the opposite we have to find more immigrants with special athletic skills and integrate them as fast as possible in the NT.
        You are talking as if Calathes, Dorsey or Bramos were more talented than Diamantidis, Spanoulis or Papaloukas..

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tonia View Post
          You are talking as if Calathes, Dorsey or Bramos were more talented than Diamantidis, Spanoulis or Papaloukas..
          Calathes, Dorsey and Bramos were no immigrants in Greece but persons with more or less relation to the greek diaspora. I am talking about guys like Giannis, Thanassis and Kostas.

          By the way I loved Bramos. I am wondering why he decided to stop playing for the greek national team or why he has not been called any more. (Whatever was the case).
          You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

            Calathes, Dorsey and Bramos were no immigrants in Greece but persons with more or less relation to the greek diaspora. I am talking about guys like Giannis, Thanassis and Kostas.

            By the way I loved Bramos. I am wondering why he decided to stop playing for the greek national team or why he has not been called any more. (Whatever was the case).
            You just said immigrants, so I thought about Greeks living abroad.
            Even though I love having Giannis, Thanasis and Kostas in our NT, my wish is young greek talents to appear and become great players, rather than find more guys like the Antetokoun-bros.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

              Mitoglu was out for more than a year. To base the whole team on this kind of payer was a risky move.
              Given the fact that there were many absentees , he was essential for this team regardless.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
                Yes yes keep cool. 100% ethnic purity is an outdated concept. For sure there is some genetic influence outside the southern balkan peninsula in his family.
                My brother is blonde with blue eyes, I don’t have either He has my mom’s genes I guess but that was also how my grandma looked and so on. As far as I know they are from Evoia since looooong ago.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by paspalj View Post
                  My brother is blonde with blue eyes, I don’t have either He has my mom’s genes I guess but that was also how my grandma looked and so on. As far as I know they are from Evoia since looooong ago.
                  Ok Ok Ok, I surrender. Tanoulis looks like the typical Greek from Thessalonica born next door to Atatuerk. His similarity to Norwegian poeple is caused by mass migration from Greeks to Scandenavia in acient times when the vulcano on Santorin exploded.

                  You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tonia View Post
                    You just said immigrants, so I thought about Greeks living abroad.
                    Even though I love having Giannis, Thanasis and Kostas in our NT, my wish is young greek talents to appear and become great players, rather than find more guys like the Antetokoun-bros.
                    If they are born in Greece they are Greeks this the modern conception of this subject. I think more effort has to be done to integrate those guys into greek sports system.
                    Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-13-2023, 07:08 AM.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                      Given the fact that there were many absentees , he was essential for this team regardless.
                      It was a kind of gambling. And with gambling you can loose and this is what happend. If Mitoglou was not around he would have treated Agravanis more carefully.
                      You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

                        Ok Ok Ok, I surrender. Tanoulis looks like the typical Greek from Thessalonica born next door to Atatuerk. His similarity to Norwegian poeple is caused by mass migration from Greeks to Scandenavia in acient times when the vulcano on Santorin exploded.
                        It is known that Thessaloniki produces many blonds The most famous of all must be Giannis Ioannidis, the blond

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tonia View Post
                          It is known that Thessaloniki produces many blonds The most famous of all must be Giannis Ioannidis, the blond
                          Indeed that proves my hypothesis about a strong connection between Norway and Greece.

                          Papaloukas mentioned that Giannis Ioannidis mobbed him after the many lost freethrows ( I think he lost 7 in a row) in the EC quarterfinal loss 2001 against Germany. Ioannidis character is similar to Agravanis. It seems that blond greeks have something in common.
                          Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-13-2023, 07:57 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Toruko View Post
                            I think the guard situation is more serious right now.
                            What do you think of Moraitis?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

                              What do you think of Moraitis?
                              I think the list of elite Greek guards ended with Sloukas. Mouratos, Moraitis, Lountzis etc. are not bad guards but not the material who could lead an EL team. But we also know that Greek player develop very late so who knows?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Toruko View Post
                                I think the list of elite Greek guards ended with Sloukas. Mouratos, Moraitis, Lountzis etc. are not bad guards but not the material who could lead an EL team. But we also know that Greek player develop very late so who knows?
                                I agree about Lountzis. Lountzis got his opportunity and has shown that he is not top-level maybe he is on the level Mantzaris was in the past?!?!? You can feel it when he starts talking. He is way too soft to be a high-level player. But Moraitis I am not sure yet. Lets give him 1 more year.
                                Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-13-2023, 10:09 AM.
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