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  • So the so-called greek defense identity went bananas already in the first game. Greeks had a problem to defend at the perimeter in the very last seconds of the possesion. We got one 3pt buzzer beater after the other. Ok the dominican guards were super agile and shoot the the 3 with high percentage but greek defense at the perimeter can for sure improve. Especially the guard defended by Giannis shoot one 3pointer after the other above Giannis defense. The best defense they played in the first part of the 4th quarter or dominicans maybe became tired and made one turnover after the other. Giannis played very well but I had the impression that dominicans were lacking an super class center. Lets see how they will play agianst Croatia/Slovenia/New Zealand.
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    • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
      So the so-called greek defense identity went bananas already in the first game. Greeks had a problem to defend at the perimeter in the very last seconds of the possesion. We got one 3pt buzzer beater after the other. Ok the dominican guards were super agile and shoot the the 3 with high percentage but greek defense at the perimeter can for sure improve. Especially the guard defended by Giannis shoot one 3pointer after the other above Giannis defense. The best defense they played in the first part of the 4th quarter or dominicans maybe became tired and made one turnover after the other. Giannis played very well but I had the impression that dominicans were lacking an super class center. Lets see how they will play agianst Croatia/Slovenia/New Zealand.
      Spanoulis has different opinion, saying that our defense was really good :

      Ο Βασίλης Σπανούλης μίλησε μετά τη νίκη της Ελλάδας επί της Δομινικανής Δημοκρατίας, υπογραμμίζοντας την αμυντική λειτουργία της ομάδας του. Ακόμη, τόνισε πως πιστεύει στους παίκτες του, ενώ ξεκαθάρισε πως ο Γιάννης είναι superstar αλλά η ομάδα είναι γεμάτη αστέρια.

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      • Originally posted by tonia View Post
        Spanoulis has different opinion, saying that our defense was really good
        I thought that they wont to keep the opponent at 70 pts maximum. Whatsoever Dom-Rep guards are super good 3pt shooters. It was hard to defend them.

        With the greek team the 3-pointer still falls like in preparation, but I noticed that the ball rotation on the perimeter was a little worse than in the preparation games. The ball repeatedly landed at Kalathis instead of the best 3-point shooter. Fortunately, he then converted at least two of these shots. In one situation, the shooter got the ball where the defender was standing without having time to pass again. The shot was correspondingly poor.

        EDIT: Watching the super show that accompanied this game yesterday, I was thinking how obvious it is that Greece has wasted 10 years with old pensioner Vasilakopoulos at the helm.
        Last edited by fasoulaki; 07-04-2024, 06:56 AM.
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        • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
          I thought that they wont to keep the opponent at 70 pts maximum. Whatsoever Dom-Rep guards where super good 3pt shooters. It was hard to defend them.

          With the greek team the 3-pointer still falls like in preparation, but I noticed that the ball rotation on the perimeter was a little worse than in the preparation games. The ball repeatedly landed with Kalathis instead of the best 3-point shooter. Fortunately, he then converted at least two of these shots. In one situation, the shooter got the ball where the defender was standing without having time to pass again. The shot was correspondingly poor.
          For me, Calathes should have taken more (open) shots. In many occasions, he preferred to pass the ball when he was open and the last player to get the ball had 2-3 sec left and hard defense on him.

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          • Originally posted by tonia View Post

            For me, Calathes should have taken more (open) shots. In many occasions, he preferred to pass the ball when he was open and the last player to get the ball had 2-3 sec left and hard defense on him.
            I thinks we saw the same but we interprete it differently. The dominican defense guarded all good shooters and left Calathes free on purpose. So thats the down side of the "ball rotation strategy" if at the end the weakest shooter gets the ball to shoot. Thats why he heistated to shoot because he knows that he is the weakest shooter. So in this situation there are two options either you take the shot the defense gives you or you pass the ball to a better player. He did both but it would have been better if the game system would leave a better shooter open than Kalathes. This is my criticism not that Kalathes took the shots.
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            • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

              I thinks we saw the same but we interprete it differently. The dominican defense guarded all good shooters and left Calathes free on purpose. So thats the down side of the "ball rotation strategy" if at the end the weakest shooter gets the ball to shoot. Thats why he heistated to shoot because he knows that he is the weakest shooter. So in this situation there are two options either you take the shot the defense gives you or you pass the ball to a better player. He did both but it would have been better if the game system would leave a better shooter open than Kalathes. This is my criticism not that Kalathes took the shots.
              It is not like they left K.Antentokoumpo or Larentzakis open
              Calathes has at least to score half of free open shots, like he did.

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              • It sounds like your team had a challenging tournament recently, both in terms of results and the departure of your coach. It's unfortunate that some players may have chosen to stay away from the National Team deliberately. Despite not hitting rock bottom and advancing to the second round, the outlook for Greek basketball seems uncertain and potentially difficult moving forward. The focus now might be on regrouping, rebuilding team morale, and strategizing for the future to overcome these setbacks.
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                • Originally posted by Isla Brown View Post
                  It sounds like your team had a challenging tournament recently, both in terms of results and the departure of your coach. It's unfortunate that some players may have chosen to stay away from the National Team deliberately. Despite not hitting rock bottom and advancing to the second round, the outlook for Greek basketball seems uncertain and potentially difficult moving forward. The focus now might be on regrouping, rebuilding team morale, and strategizing for the future to overcome these setbacks.
                  This sounds like an AI generated text my dear!
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                  • I honestly can't see Slovenia winning against Greece, the only positive thing is that they're playing in semis after 1 day of rest, it would have been even less possible in the Final.

                    After Nikolic got injured and coach finally understood that Cancar and Muric can't help much after being out for a year, I have seen some players playing 10+ minutes, who I didn't know that even exist a week ago.
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                    • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                      I honestly can't see Slovenia winning against Greece
                      After watching the greek game against Egypt my optimism and confidence went away in the same manner as the greek defense.
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                      • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
                        After watching the greek game against Egypt my optimism and confidence went away in the same manner as the greek defense.
                        Just take a look on Slovenian roster and your confidence will be immediately back.

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                        • Kostas is out for at least the next two games.
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                          • I don’t ever remember such packing the paint at this level of play. It’s crazy.
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                            • I refuse to believe Papagiannis made 5 3s

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                              • Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                                I refuse to believe Papagiannis made 5 3s
                                Seems he is an oversized shooting guard. The farther away from the basket the more comfortable he feels.

                                I did not like greek offense in the game against Croatia. The only game plan they had was to shoot threes and field goals. They really struggled in the set play. We are back to the old problem on how to introduce Giannis in FIBA play. The only improvement to other years is that Giannis does not commit any offensive fouls anymore. With such an offensive system we have no chance to survive the killer group at the Olympics. I am very pessimistic.

                                Last edited by fasoulaki; 07-08-2024, 09:04 AM.
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