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  • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

    No, its not if you have Luka.



    This option should be history but you have someone who can at least make life tough for Giannis.



    Doesnt say much if Doncic is on 90%. The role player need just to make their shots. Doncic will create for everyone.


    Luka has always a facial expression which gives you the feeling that he is lazy and sloppy but he is very very competitive. I see the chances 51% to 49% for Greece.
    This is the worse Slovenian team in Luka's era.

    - Cancar and Muric with 0 basketball in 1 year time.
    - Goran retired again.
    - Blazic out. Samar, who played some useful minutes in NT out too.​
    - Luka pretty tired after playoffs. 4 games in 6 days is a lot, especially if you need to play more or less nonstop and doing everything.

    It won't happen, but my plan would be, play against Croatia without Luka, beat Greece in semis and Croatia in the Finals. You don't want to play Finals against Greece with already gassed Luka.
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    • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
      Doncic can only beat himself, as he did in the quarterfinals of Eurobasket 22 against Poland. But I do not think he will play with the same attitude against a Greek team with Giannis on the court. But maybe he takes the win over Croatia for granted.
      Will be a nice game to watch

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      • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
        Greeks will be clear favourites but it will be fun watch with popcorns how Doncic gonna break their hearts in one more olympic qualifying tournament fiasco
        I can feel a little hatred here..

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        • Originally posted by tonia View Post
          I can feel a little hatred here..
          It is just hard reality. Apart from Athens 2008 I remember only Preolympic fiascos with the game against Nigeria in Venezuela being my favorite.
          Last edited by fasoulaki; 07-01-2024, 12:27 PM.
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          • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
            It is just hard reality. Apart from Athens 2008 I remember only Preolympic fiascos with the game against Nogeria in Venezueala being my favorite.
            Hard reality for ones, great amusement for others..

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            • Greece NT was eliminated Nigeria 2012, Croatia 2016, Chech 2021 thats really bad history and bad loses againts weaker teams


              Doncic is badass man alive in basketball world in one game scenerios.


              It will be fun to see that cold blooded killer put in that greek fans atmosphere in win or go home situation

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              • History doesn't play ball. The players do.

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                • I hope you understand now what I was saying. Slovenia is a joke this year.
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                  • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                    I hope you understand now what I was saying. Slovenia is a joke this year.
                    I hope that Doncic will be mentally prepared to play with the necessary toughness against New Zealand.
                    You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                    • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

                      I hope that Doncic will be mentally prepared to play with the necessary toughness against New Zealand.
                      It really doesn't matter what happens against New Zealand, even if they play better in offensive side their D is nowhere close enough to beat either Greece or Croatia. Luka is spent others are lacking talent on both sides. And coaching staff is a total joke. The best thing long term would be loosing against New Zealand and consequently getting new coaching staff. Game against Croatia was not just a fluke, you can have bad shooting night, but they simply didn't know how to defend Croatia's post game, like they didn't expect what Croatia will do, which is laughable in modern basketball. Yes Slovenia is small and especially because of that you should be prepared with defensive system to counter that. Play fucking zone at least, if you're clueless about help D.
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                      • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                        It really doesn't matter what happens against New Zealand, even if they play better in offensive side their D is nowhere close enough to beat either Greece or Croatia. Luka is spent others are lacking talent on both sides. And coaching staff is a total joke. The best thing long term would be loosing against New Zealand and consequently getting new coaching staff. Game against Croatia was not just a fluke, you can have bad shooting night, but they simply didn't know how to defend Croatia's post game, like they didn't expect what Croatia will do, which is laughable in modern basketball. Yes Slovenia is small and especially because of that you should be prepared with defensive system to counter that. Play fucking zone at least, if you're clueless about help D.
                        Luka looked really frustrated during the game, he was making remarks to his teammates at some occasions and he didn't complain much to the referrees, as he usually does..
                        On the other hand, the coach seemed quite calm and "surrendered".

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                        • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                          Luka looked really frustrated during the game, he was making remarks to his teammates at some occasions and he didn't complain much to the referrees, as he usually does..
                          On the other hand, the coach seemed quite calm and "surrendered".
                          We all knew that roster is small and slow and very untalented, my expectations were very low because of that, but I didn't expect they will came totally unprepared. They were totally lost in D, they didn't even knew when to help, when not and they ended mostly doing something in between, which is the worse thing you can do in D. Nebo doesn't even understand what he should do. Consequently they even tried with Muric on 5, which is laughable against big Croatia. Those things can't be repaired overnight, especially with small and unathletic roster.

                          It's between Greece and Croatia. I didn't see Greece yet, but Croatia looks pretty good.
                          Last edited by Killer Bob; 07-03-2024, 09:24 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                            but I didn't expect they will came totally unprepared.
                            Yes preparation is the main challenge for teams participating in the preolympic qualification tournament. Thats why the host nations pay way to much money to ge these bloody tournaments to save 1-2 days of travel and adpation time which can be invested into training sessions.

                            You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                            • I don't understand why we can't buy one ticket for both games of the day of pre-olympic tournament.
                              SEF would probably not look that empty at first game yesterday between Egypt-Dominican Republic.

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                              • Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post

                                Yes preparation is the main challenge for teams participating in the preolympic qualification tournament. Thats why the host nations pay way to much money to ge these bloody tournaments to save 1-2 days of travel and adpation time which can be invested into training sessions.
                                Everyone except Luka and Nebo were 3 weeks together. And I would believe Luka knows what to do after 7 years playing for NT. Coaching staff is a joke from the beginning, they had a deal with Itoudis and then Covid-19 happened. Sekulic should be just part time solution but he stayed after solid Olympics. All went downhill after that. They looked totally unprepared for Croatia and even worse there wasn't no reaction from the bench whatsoever, coach was clueless how to adapt. The final result isn't realistic, Croatia could have easily scored 120 and win by 30+, if they played seriously till the end. Difference between both teams was enormous. Yes they can play with more energy and Luka can have better shooting night for sure, but that wouldn't change final result, Croatia was just cruising half of the game.
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