Was Dirk's 53 points the most ever by a European player in the NBA?
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BBallfanJ
12-03-2004, 12:29 PM
I don't think a player from Europe has ever scored 50 or more in the NBA before last night, when Nowitzki poured in 53 points against Houston.
What about the late Drazen Petrovic? What was his career high in the NBA?
12-03-2004, 12:29 PM
I don't think a player from Europe has ever scored 50 or more in the NBA before last night, when Nowitzki poured in 53 points against Houston.
What about the late Drazen Petrovic? What was his career high in the NBA?
mvblair
12-04-2004, 08:20 AM
Good question. I tried to find out yesterday, but I couldn't get anything conclusive. The only two other European players that I could imagine scoring more than 50 are Petrovic and Stojakovic.
Last night, I think I heard the ESPN studio commentators say that only 5 players born outside the US have scored at least 53 points: Dominique Wilkens (France), Tim Duncan (Virgin Islands), Hakeem Olajuwan (Nigeria), and...I can't remember the other 2.
Did anybody else here that?
Matt
12-04-2004, 08:20 AM
Good question. I tried to find out yesterday, but I couldn't get anything conclusive. The only two other European players that I could imagine scoring more than 50 are Petrovic and Stojakovic.
Last night, I think I heard the ESPN studio commentators say that only 5 players born outside the US have scored at least 53 points: Dominique Wilkens (France), Tim Duncan (Virgin Islands), Hakeem Olajuwan (Nigeria), and...I can't remember the other 2.
Did anybody else here that?
Matt
Matiz
12-04-2004, 08:55 AM
Dominique Wilkens (France), Tim Duncan (Virgin Islands), Hakeem Olajuwan (Nigeria), and...I can't remember the other 2.
Probably Ewing too...
12-04-2004, 08:55 AM
Dominique Wilkens (France), Tim Duncan (Virgin Islands), Hakeem Olajuwan (Nigeria), and...I can't remember the other 2.
Probably Ewing too...
mvblair
12-04-2004, 10:10 AM
Yeah! Ewing was another. Now the fifth?
Matt
12-04-2004, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Matiz
Probably Ewing too...
Probably Ewing too...
Matt
mayteromanl
12-04-2004, 10:57 AM
If Drazen had more time, he'd probably get 53 and more.
That game worthed really to watch, not only 53's Nowitzki, also 48's Mc Grady... amazing!!!
Definitely Nowitzki wants to compensate himself for the last season, a bit modest, we know.
12-04-2004, 10:57 AM
If Drazen had more time, he'd probably get 53 and more.
That game worthed really to watch, not only 53's Nowitzki, also 48's Mc Grady... amazing!!!
Definitely Nowitzki wants to compensate himself for the last season, a bit modest, we know.
BBallfanJ
12-04-2004, 12:13 PM
I had no idea that 'Nique was born in France. Wow, you guys really know your stuff. Well, I think he scored more than 53 at some point in his career. As for Peja, I know he's had a few 40+ points games but never 50, I'm quite sure.
12-04-2004, 12:13 PM
I had no idea that 'Nique was born in France. Wow, you guys really know your stuff. Well, I think he scored more than 53 at some point in his career. As for Peja, I know he's had a few 40+ points games but never 50, I'm quite sure.
Matiz
12-04-2004, 01:38 PM
You're right, his career high was 41 vs. Memphis 12/23/03... I though he had a better record
12-04-2004, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by BBallfanJ
As for Peja, I know he's had a few 40+ points games but never 50, I'm quite sure.
As for Peja, I know he's had a few 40+ points games but never 50, I'm quite sure.
Zalgirinis
12-04-2004, 01:50 PM
I've made a list of career high points of current international players, but I didnt include Duncan, Nash, Palacio, Mutombo, Olowokandi etc who were just born in other countries or born in North or Central America with exception of Najera, Arroyo and Santiago. Also it only has players with 15 or more points.
1. Dirk Nowitzki 53 vs. Houston 12/02/04
2-3. Predrag Stojakovic 41 vs. Memphis 12/23/03
2-3. Yao Ming 41 vs. Atlanta 2/22/04
4. Pau Gasol 37 @ Cleveland 11/29/03
5. Zydrunas Ilgauskas 35 2 Times
6-7. Toni Kukoc 34 vs. Miami 4/04/96
6-7. Vlade Divac 34 vs. Phoenix 1/02/01
8-9. Emanuel Ginobili 33 vs. L.A. Lakers 11/06/03
8-9. Gordan Giricek 33 @ Phoenix 3/12/04
10. Tony Parker 32 3 Times
11-13. Andrei Kirilenko 31 @ Miami 2/17/04
11-13. Hidayet Turkoglu 31 vs. Denver 3/21/02
11-13. Tariq Abdul-Wahad 31 vs. Vancouver 4/19/98
14. Carlos Arroyo 30 @ Minnesota 11/14/03
15. Vladimir Radmanovic 29 @ Memphis 1/25/03
16-17. Mehmet Okur 27 vs. Toronto 1/14/04
16-17. Leandro Barbosa 27 @ Chicago 1/05/04
18-20. Predrag Drobnjak 26 vs. L.A. Clippers 4/04/03
18-20. Stanislav Medvedenko 26 2 Times
18-20. Vitaly Potapenko 26 vs. Indiana 4/19/99
21-23. Raul Lopez 25 vs. Phoenix 4/14/04
21-23. Nene 25 vs. Utah 1/09/04
21-23. Marko Jaric 25 vs. Indiana 12/01/02
24-25. Radoslav Nesterovic 24 vs. San Antonio 11/24/01
24-25. Zeljko Rebraca 24 vs. Chicago 4/10/02
26. Jake Tsakalidis 23 vs. Cleveland 3/25/02
27-29. Primoz Brezec 22 @ Detroit 11/21/04
27-29. Andres Nocioni 22 @ Denver 11/19/04
27-29. Jiri Welsch 22 vs. Philadelphia 12/21/03
30. Wang ZhiZhi 21 vs. Denver 3/19/03
31. Mickael Pietrus 20 2 Times
32-34. Vladimir Stepania 19 vs. Charlotte 11/16/01
32-34. Eduardo Najera 19 @ L.A. Clippers 1/26/02
32-34. Dan Gadzuric 19 vs. Golden State 12/10/03
35. Aleksandr Pavlovic 18 @ Houston 12/03/03
36-41. Darius Songaila 17 3 Times
36-41. Bruno Sundov 17 @ Orlando 1/30/01
36-41. Carlos Delfino 17 @ Denver 11/11/04
36-41. Maciej Lampe 17 vs. Milwaukee 3/20/04
36-41. Nikoloz Tskitisvili 17 vs. L.A. Lakers 2/12/03
36-41. Zarko Cabarkapa 17 vs. Dallas 11/26/03
42-44. Beno Udrih 16 @ Dallas 11/30/04
42-44. Zoran Planinic 16 vs. Dallas 11/13/04
42-44. Fracisco Elson 16 vs. Phoenix 11/25/03
45-47. Boris Diaw 15 @ Dallas 3/17/04
45-47. Sean Marks 15 vs. Seattle 11/06/01
45-47. Daniel Santiago 15 vs. New Jersey 11/22/00
12-04-2004, 01:50 PM
I've made a list of career high points of current international players, but I didnt include Duncan, Nash, Palacio, Mutombo, Olowokandi etc who were just born in other countries or born in North or Central America with exception of Najera, Arroyo and Santiago. Also it only has players with 15 or more points.
1. Dirk Nowitzki 53 vs. Houston 12/02/04
2-3. Predrag Stojakovic 41 vs. Memphis 12/23/03
2-3. Yao Ming 41 vs. Atlanta 2/22/04
4. Pau Gasol 37 @ Cleveland 11/29/03
5. Zydrunas Ilgauskas 35 2 Times
6-7. Toni Kukoc 34 vs. Miami 4/04/96
6-7. Vlade Divac 34 vs. Phoenix 1/02/01
8-9. Emanuel Ginobili 33 vs. L.A. Lakers 11/06/03
8-9. Gordan Giricek 33 @ Phoenix 3/12/04
10. Tony Parker 32 3 Times
11-13. Andrei Kirilenko 31 @ Miami 2/17/04
11-13. Hidayet Turkoglu 31 vs. Denver 3/21/02
11-13. Tariq Abdul-Wahad 31 vs. Vancouver 4/19/98
14. Carlos Arroyo 30 @ Minnesota 11/14/03
15. Vladimir Radmanovic 29 @ Memphis 1/25/03
16-17. Mehmet Okur 27 vs. Toronto 1/14/04
16-17. Leandro Barbosa 27 @ Chicago 1/05/04
18-20. Predrag Drobnjak 26 vs. L.A. Clippers 4/04/03
18-20. Stanislav Medvedenko 26 2 Times
18-20. Vitaly Potapenko 26 vs. Indiana 4/19/99
21-23. Raul Lopez 25 vs. Phoenix 4/14/04
21-23. Nene 25 vs. Utah 1/09/04
21-23. Marko Jaric 25 vs. Indiana 12/01/02
24-25. Radoslav Nesterovic 24 vs. San Antonio 11/24/01
24-25. Zeljko Rebraca 24 vs. Chicago 4/10/02
26. Jake Tsakalidis 23 vs. Cleveland 3/25/02
27-29. Primoz Brezec 22 @ Detroit 11/21/04
27-29. Andres Nocioni 22 @ Denver 11/19/04
27-29. Jiri Welsch 22 vs. Philadelphia 12/21/03
30. Wang ZhiZhi 21 vs. Denver 3/19/03
31. Mickael Pietrus 20 2 Times
32-34. Vladimir Stepania 19 vs. Charlotte 11/16/01
32-34. Eduardo Najera 19 @ L.A. Clippers 1/26/02
32-34. Dan Gadzuric 19 vs. Golden State 12/10/03
35. Aleksandr Pavlovic 18 @ Houston 12/03/03
36-41. Darius Songaila 17 3 Times
36-41. Bruno Sundov 17 @ Orlando 1/30/01
36-41. Carlos Delfino 17 @ Denver 11/11/04
36-41. Maciej Lampe 17 vs. Milwaukee 3/20/04
36-41. Nikoloz Tskitisvili 17 vs. L.A. Lakers 2/12/03
36-41. Zarko Cabarkapa 17 vs. Dallas 11/26/03
42-44. Beno Udrih 16 @ Dallas 11/30/04
42-44. Zoran Planinic 16 vs. Dallas 11/13/04
42-44. Fracisco Elson 16 vs. Phoenix 11/25/03
45-47. Boris Diaw 15 @ Dallas 3/17/04
45-47. Sean Marks 15 vs. Seattle 11/06/01
45-47. Daniel Santiago 15 vs. New Jersey 11/22/00
mayteromanl
12-04-2004, 03:47 PM
WOV!!! Really good job
12-04-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Zalgirinis
I've made a list of career high points of current international players
I've made a list of career high points of current international players
Virtuoso
12-04-2004, 05:00 PM
Petrovic's career high in the NBA is 44 points against the Houston Rockets.
Source: http://www.drazenpetrovic.com/letters/comm3.htm
These guys should not count, they all played for the USA and I consider most of them American anyway.
12-04-2004, 05:00 PM
Petrovic's career high in the NBA is 44 points against the Houston Rockets.
Source: http://www.drazenpetrovic.com/letters/comm3.htm
Dominique Wilkens (France), Tim Duncan (Virgin Islands), Hakeem Olajuwan (Nigeria), Ewing
mvblair
12-04-2004, 06:20 PM
I know what you mean. All of them played for US Senior Teams at some point in their careers. But Olajuwan has always remained close to his North Nigerian roots, and he has moved back their and bought an estate, so I would say he's a different case.
Great list, Almantas. I really like it! Just out of curiosity, why don't you include the guys like Palacio, Nash or Mutombo?
Matt
12-04-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Virtuoso
These guys should not count, they all played for the USA and I consider most of them American anyway.
These guys should not count, they all played for the USA and I consider most of them American anyway.
Great list, Almantas. I really like it! Just out of curiosity, why don't you include the guys like Palacio, Nash or Mutombo?
Matt
Zalgirinis
12-05-2004, 11:21 PM
Cause I dont consider them international? Toronto is a part of NBA, so Canada also. So Nash and Magloire are out. And other guys like Flores, Palacio, Mutombo, Olowokandi etc I just dont know their background much, for me they seem more american and if they were only born in Africa, but lived most of their lives in States...
12-05-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by mvblair
Great list, Almantas. I really like it! Just out of curiosity, why don't you include the guys like Palacio, Nash or Mutombo?
Great list, Almantas. I really like it! Just out of curiosity, why don't you include the guys like Palacio, Nash or Mutombo?