Anadolu Efes 2020/21

[Toruko]

As i remember Efes made 2,5 years contract with Dzanan Musa, but i don't see him around. He's not playing in EL because of rules or because of Ataman?

He is allowed to play.

[Worrax]

He is allowed to play.

...then it's Ataman's decision. So why he's not using him (even 5 min.) to create some deeper roster nowadays? Interesting.

[Toruko]

...then it's Ataman's decision. So why he's not using him (even 5 min.) to create some deeper roster nowadays? Interesting.

Because of his sloppiness

[Worrax]

Because of his sloppiness

Filling the foreigner spot just to use him in TBL.. ? Till now Ataman should have been adapt him to team/system for EL, sorry but who fucks TBL.

[janketa]

I had some hopes about Musa, but his shooting is childish and decisions making on retard level

[Worrax]

I had some hopes about Musa, but his shooting is childish and decisions making on retard level

Still don't understand why Efes made this move. Let's wait and see...

[janketa]

Still don't understand why Efes made this move. Let's wait and see...

Though Ataman's game decisions and overall basketball knowledge is at least doubtful, I have to say that market moves and transfers are mostly smart and in right direction(except Moerman)

But this move is realy strange and weird, like you said let's see what happen

[Toruko]

Still don't understand why Efes made this move. Let's wait and see...

Its an investition for the future. Ataman said its an investition for next season, cheap and has potential. What is it that you cant understand?

[Worrax]

@janketa;
Thank you.

@Toruko;
Just don't understand why he's not in the roster and having no time in EL. At least he's coming from an active league, if i'm not wrong. I didn't know that Ataman said he's a next season investition. Thanks...

[janketa]

Saying that Musa has potential is such nonsence like statement that earth is flat.

One ond only mistake I made in this forum is about him because I had some hopes aftrer watching some highlights. Guy is dumb as night(after watching his games in BSL)

Not next season but next 100 seasons he will just be what he is, dumb bosnian without brain and willingness for imrovement.

Anyone who writes here that he is investition for the future is even dumber then him.

[Furkan Korkmaz]

I had to jump in when multiple people made the same error, just to help out for future reference, there is no word like “investitition” in English. I believe it’s is the German form, in English it’s “investment”.

As for Musa, I am with Worrax and I don’t understand why Ataman hasn’t already started using him in the less important euroleague games, he’s been signed for months now. Yes he’s not going to be a starter but you don’t have to he the smartest player to contribute. Musa is not talentless, Janketa is being a bit hard on him. He hasn’t even had a proper chance and lacks rhythm.

[Worrax]

Thanks for fixing the word Furkan.
You explained my point with better English about Musa. I didn't know much about him but some forum members like; janketa, Toruko, Bob, Katastroika...ect. wrote about his background and tough character. That's why it's been a long time i was wondering to see his skills on the court, but still nothing...

[Worrax]

Guys, what do you think about the new season's Efes roster..? Who should leave and in which positions we must add players?

As far as i know the players under contracts are; Dunston, Singleton, Musa, Beaubois, Larkin, Şanlı, Saybir, Geçim, Tuncer, Gazi and Balbay. By the end of the season; Pleiss, Moerman, Simon, Anderson and Micic will be FA, if i'm not wrong.

Pleiss's knee is a big question mark. That's why we'll need a strong/athletic center. I'm not sure about Moerman and Anderson. If we can replace them with better ones, that's fine. But not so much options in transfer market, even for a good center.

So from my point of view;
*Position #5, #4 and #3 newcomers, plus:
*Dunston, Şanlı, Singleton, Saybir,
*Simon, Geçim, Musa, Beaubois,
*Larkin, Micic, Tuncer, Gazi, Balbay.

[janketa]

Larkin-new PG-Balbay-Gazi
new SG-Beaubois-Tuncer
Simon-Anderson
Singleton- new PF
Sanli-Dunston-Pleiss

Streetballers Saybir, Gecim, Moerman and Musa out

[Worrax]

Don't you think your bigs are a little bit risky..? I like Pleiss, too... but his knee is problematic and Dunston is already 36. About Musa yes, no good signals yet, but 2.5 years contract. That's why i don't think Ataman will take him out. I specially didn't take local players out, cause they have contracts and (actually) not playing important roles in EL. (I like Saybir's improvement by the way.) And one more; i won't cry if Micic leaves but it's very hard to fill his position nowadays.