Crvena Zvezda 2019-20

[Toruko]

With greetings from Partizan fans to Corey Walden.

[AmonRA]

with greetings from walden to partizan fans

[Katastroika]

With greetings from Partizan fans to Corey Walden.

Moral vertical of Partizan fans is a quite stretchable parameter
Silence in video conference in my job from two colleagues. Guess why...

Langston Hall went out injured yesterday in 2nd quarter. It looked bad and I think, even he played not good in the last games, this is a huge blow for us considering our ambition to be competitive against Efes this week.

[Nemanja95]

With greetings from President of Serbia to fans of Partizan. 8 or 9 million Euros budget isn't enough , as well as Obradovic for coach,Loyd and O'Bryant like starters, Rochestie and Walden for backups . Sreten Radovic has irreplaceable role in successes of this club . When everyone falling,he is there.

[Katastroika]

With greetings from President of Serbia to fans of Partizan. 8 or 9 million Euros budget isn't enough , as well as Obradovic for coach,Loyd and O'Bryant like starters, Rochestie and Walden for backups . Sreten Radovic has irreplaceable role in successes of this club . When everyone falling,he is there.

Yeah. President of Serbia and Sreten Radovic generated 38 free throws for Partizan and 13 for Zvezda. This paranoia and obsession, searching for external enemies and putting yourself into a role of victim permanently is for psychological research.
All the best for rest of the season.

PS: 8-9 millions? Why not say 25.

[Nemanja95]

What you think ,how big is budget of your club, maybe 5 millions ?

What 38 free throws, defense of your team made 7 or 8 clear unnecessary fouls for ft ,how many were on rebounds,also some were tendentious fouls on poor shooters from ft .Despite that, some fouls are not called ,for example fourth foul O Bryant on pnr hedge ,in the beginning of fourth quarter ,or maybe in the finish on drive of McIntyre . Or traveling ,and double dribble violation in last minute,or in the finish of first half an one and traveling of Loyd ,disputable situation in finish of third quarter, about foul on Gordic .

All of that maybe is paranoia, or searching for external enemies,or maybe is reffree robbery ,who knows how many times seen,and of course indicatively that happened since 2012, simultaneosly one person is on the leading position in the state. Yeah,it could be paranoia.I agree.

[Katastroika]

Did you see this scene for double-dribble of Walden in slow-motion? I asked seriously because they didn't show in Arena in slow motion? I just saw, like always, Novica Velickovic and your team's bench putting pressure on referees and speaking to referees. If yes, I would like you to post here for me to watch the scene.

Even opposition leader nr. 1 and most objective sports journalist Tegeltija didn't confirm robbery (and in his eyes Partizan is always robbed when they lose).
But okay, if you have been robbed, you can be proud of your team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtILUEEZ1NI

And for this - I honestly don't see foul of Davidovac here on Cody.

I will rewatch game today and post in the evening my opinion on the scene of potential foul on pick hedge of Johnny.

Maybe Partizan lost game also because of gambling on three point line. Dangubic got 4 fouls (let me guess, they were intentially whistled?) and that's why you couldn't guard Loyd in 2nd half. Besides all Partizan lost game in 1st half due to horrible shooting. Zvezda shot ball better. Partizan outrebounded zvezda what is great issue as it happens zvezda again and again every week and is biggest issue of this team but otherwise I really don't see robbery. If it was double-dribble of Walden I will admit. But let's see the scene.

[Nemanja95]

Yes,I saw this situation ,about last minute on the game, if I good remember,Walden or Loyd,some of them made double dribble violation ,referees are not called,one second after that ,pass and layup,+4 leads CZ. He made obvious violation,he jumped with the ball,descended, and again jumped. Walden also made obvious violation ,ball bounces over shoulder. I couldn't`be convinced in our win if referees weren't on your side, but nobody could be convinced in your win in same case .

[Obina]

38:13 ft in Partizan favor... And eight game in last 17 days for Zvezda but that is still not enough.

[Nemanja95]

Are you remember for example 4 called fouls which should not be called? We`re not living in 1950s ,there are videos, there are basketball rules, easy provable is 7 or 8 wrong referee decisions on side of CZ. How many there are on side of Partizan, maximally 3 . What we talk about ? Referee doesnt call double dribble violation of Loyd in last minute, beside baseline where he was, Walden in receiving ball made also violation,ball bounces over shoulder .38 free throws ,really ? If your club are not in disposition for this number of games,you should remember how your club came in Euroleague, this season.

[Obina]

We are talking about game, not about how Zvezda came to Euroleague. We came the same like rest of teams without license, the season is repeated. You are complaining for refs despite your team had +25 freethrows. Get serious, life goes on...

[Worrax]

Hello Serbian friends... What is the situation of Turkish player Mert Akay in KK Dynamic Belgrade? His games and statistics are good enough or he has a long way to go..? What's his coach and Serbian sport media thinking about him? Thanks.

[Katastroika]

Hello Serbian friends... What is the situation of Turkish player Mert Akay in KK Dynamic Belgrade? His games and statistics are good enough or he has a long way to go..? What's his coach and Serbian sport media thinking about him? Thanks.

Difficult to say, really. Media takes some small notice but Dynamic is a team without lobby, noone cares in fact. Except total fanatics noone cares for this team and it's results.

His stats are really okay (it's funny, he leads both assists and turnover stats in the league) but Dynamic is extensively forcing him, they have two or three potential big names that they can make to money and he is one of them and of course they need numbers to back this. In difference to Toruko's as always super-enthusiastic posts that already call him in national team, Eurocup, Champions League and compare him to God knows which players with outlook to Euroleague and for change of current team I think that in his age he has a role he wouldn't have anywhere else and that's the reason he should stay with Dynamic and develop further in a league where he plays for a team without any ambition (except selling players), can try whatever he wants because his team forces him and gives him freedom. Excellent situation for a young player. I have a good friend who is working in youth categories of Dynamic, they are satisfied with his development. But Dynamic doesn't plan to win the Eurocup one day or participate in ABA So, you'll get what their plan with him is.

His coach can be satisfied with him of course and I think the best would be for him a transfer to Mega where he still would have freedom, protection and a young and very good team for next season, with great coaching staff and great management (best in Europe for selling young players). And it seems possible to me as Misko Raznatovic's agency is signing more and more Turkish players. That would really be a boost for his career. Generally he is still young and still has time and it should be given to him. If he goes to Efes, Fener or another top team I really wouldn't expect him to deliver instantly. He is young first of all. Pressure down. KLS is no serious league. It consists of a lot of amateur players and players that are young and try somehow to make their way up and a few (but of course existing) very good young players (among them Akay for sure).

PS: In Turkish subforum Toruko tries to hype him are so funny in eyes of us Serbians that know this league. When he writes something like: "great game of Akay against a playoff contender". Playoff contender in a league like KL that technically first has no playoffs and second is semi-amateur Rasko Katic is best player of the league - who is 40 years old, half basketball player and half bricklayer (real bricklayer, not the one on the court). I really wouldn't take this stats too serious.

[Toruko]

Ok, since my "name" was mentioned here like 100 times in one post I should maybe share my view to this.

KLS is not accessible to me so I cant watch any games of him and dont know what the level of this league is but this is also not important. What matters is that he steadily improves his skill set and this is what he has done. Its clear that he is the next Steve Nash just because he has a good season in KLS but players like Jovic and Micic played in this league when they were at the same age.

His time in the Serbian league is over. Its not my claim but his statement of himself.

I have no clue about how the situation in this league is and I dont care at all. If there are playoffs or not. I just mentioned it because there are stronger and weaker teams thats all but I am happy to amuse you guys and nice that you follow my postings.

[Worrax]

@Katastroika;
Well explained, thanks for your effort.
@Toruko;
Thank you man, it's allways good to know someone carrying-informing of young prospects around, doesn't matter from which league, country or nationality. Thank you for your efforts, too.