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  • Crvena Zvezda 2017/2018

    It's time for a new topic, discussing about the upcoming season, transfers, rumors etc.

    This is the current roster of players that are under contract with Zvezda:

    Guards
    Jovic, Jenkins, Guduric, Dobric, Lazic

    Forwards
    Dangubic, Bolden, Simonovic, Simanic

    Centers
    Kuzmic, Bjelica

    There is still a possibility that either Jovic or Lazic might leave as well (Dangubic as well). Still the core is more or less there and under contract and we need to make some additions. Switching from Mitrovic to Bolden is a huge upgrade since now we have to combo forwards SF/PF who can stretch with great success Bolden and Simonovic. Still there is uncertainty regarding Bolden due to NBA draft. If he gets drafted high and a team wants him ASAP, he might jump straight to NBA. The good thing is that we have a 2 year contract with him and we can expect a buyout.

    There are also signs that we might include Radanov in the first team as well, which is a great investment for the future since he played really well in KLS for FMP this year.

    The issues in the roster are:

    - Athletic PF/C that can play together with Kuzmic/Bjelica or alone in small ball lineups. PnR, Rebounding, Transition, Defense. That kind of profile.
    - A scoring PG/combo guard for the second unit that has to be an elite shooter.

    Also Radonjic is a question mark. He needs to renegotiate the contract with Zvezda.

    Later today, some prospects that I like.

  • #2
    Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
    Also Radonjic is a question mark. He needs to renegotiate the contract with Zvezda.
    according to eurohoops, it's clear now, he's gone.
    Dejan Radonjic announced last night that he is leaving Crvena Zvezda in an emotional press conference.
    5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
      according to eurohoops, it's clear now, he's gone.
      http://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleag...-coach-zvezda/
      It's a bad translation from the press conference. What he exactly said was:

      "From the legal standpoint (his contract has expired) I am no longer the coach of Zvezda. There was a talk with President Covic but it was not a serious one..." "There has to be a serious commitment and plans for the future, the desire is not the problem"

      Then he also mentioned the finances and stuff.

      He is out of contract officially but he will negotiate with Zvezda before doing anything else.

      Covic came out yesterday with a statement as well. Officially these are people that are not tied with a contract:

      - Wolters
      - Thompson
      - Lazic
      - Simonovic

      Simonovic and Lazic have an option to stay, so they are not pure FAs but they might leave if Zvezda gets a great offer. Covic mentioned that these two players will be a priority to be signed until August.

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      • #4
        Some guys that I would love to have in Zvezda next season.

        Stevan Jelovac - PF 208cm, 110kg

        CAI-CJB_Jelovac3.jpg

        In case that we don't get to see Bolden or Simonovic in Zvezda's team the following season I would love to bring back Jelovac home. He played for Zvezda before and is a big fan of the club. He has a great stretch skillset shooting from both midrange and perimeter. Excellent frame for the position. He would be a great add. He signed a one-year deal with Zaragoza 3 seasons in a row and he is out of contract now. He is also represented by Misko Raznatovic So that should help.

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        • #5
          In all the games i watched last year Mitrovic was a disaster, the sixth player for any opponent.

          Having substituted him the team can only improve.

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          • #6
            Your 3pt shooting need to be improved. Jenkins needs to go somewhere. Bjelica too. Like you said, combo PG with scoring ability, good 3pt shooting is crusial. For C, you could sign Trevor Mbakwe, his season wasn't great, he should want to show everyone, that he still got it. Maybe Toolson could lower his price for opportunity to play in EL.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ZalgirisFanForLife View Post
              Your 3pt shooting need to be improved. Jenkins needs to go somewhere. Bjelica too. Like you said, combo PG with scoring ability, good 3pt shooting is crusial. For C, you could sign Trevor Mbakwe, his season wasn't great, he should want to show everyone, that he still got it. Maybe Toolson could lower his price for opportunity to play in EL.
              Radonjic will not sign a player that is ZERO on defense like Toolson. This is key and Jenkins is not a bad shooter. He shot 42.5% from 3 this Euroleague in 30 games. I have no idea where do you get an idea that he is a bad shooter. He is also a perennial Defensive Player of the Year. This is key to our system, so he is not going anywhere.

              Regarding Bjelica, yes I want him to play as little as possible. He is under contract though and he could help with ABA and domestic league games. Mbakwe was my dream for 2 off-seasons and still it hasn't happened unfortunately In our system he would be king.

              We need a guy for the second unit to be the scorer/creator PG/Combo scoring guard that can be a primary ball handler. So guys like Toolson ect. are not what we need.

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              • #8
                Mitrovic zu Brose. Great news.

                Hope to see Bolden in Zvezda next season, i doubt he will play now in NBA.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
                  Radonjic will not sign a player that is ZERO on defense like Toolson. This is key and Jenkins is not a bad shooter. He shot 42.5% from 3 this Euroleague in 30 games. I have no idea where do you get an idea that he is a bad shooter. He is also a perennial Defensive Player of the Year. This is key to our system, so he is not going anywhere.
                  pretty solid mid-range shot as well. and him putting his heart out every game, you cannot expect better commitment from a foreigner.

                  How big Dobric's role is gonna be next year?
                  5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

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                  • #10
                    Dobric is the 2017 Serbian League Finals MVP!!!

                    Dobric just lit up the Serbian League finals with 2 games of 20+ points and showcasing his talent all over. He will get increased minutes for sure. How big his role will be is a question of what happens to Lazic/Dangubic, if any of them leave the club and the decision whether to not go for another PG and make Jenkins play PG with the second unit (this is a ? since Radonjic loves Jovic-Jenkins to suffocate all the primary ball handlers in the first unit).

                    He is a SG/SF swingman with an excellent athleticism for a European player. He used to be very raw shooting wise but he is a gym rat (Him and Guduric are practicing 6 hours a day when there is no game) and he is now a competent shooter. He likes to attack the basket and can finish with contact. Defensively he has amazing tools and working with Radonjic will only improve his defense. He has all the tools but lacks experience vs the top competition in that regard.

                    In the Serbian League he was give a chance and this are his insane numbers:

                    15 minutes per game, 9.5 pts 2.1 rbs and 1 stl and 1.2 assists per game. He did it by shooting 71% for 2pt and 55% from 3pt and 88% from FT. Those are his season averages.

                    His main problems as a player come from playing with a ball in his hands, since he doesn't really create well for others and can be sloppy in ball handling. He doesn't really create his own shot at this point, outside of penetration to the hoop. He is a perfect 3 and D prospect to play SF in Zvezda's system.

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                    • #11
                      Radonjic confirmed that he won't stay. There is a voice that Maccabi TA is interested in him in case Spahjia decides not to leave the NBA.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post
                        Radonjic confirmed that he won't stay. There is a voice that Maccabi TA is interested in him in case Spahjia decides not to leave the NBA.
                        No he didn't,he stated that he legally is not a coach of Zvezda anymore,although his contract expired and that there are plenty of sh.it to solve before he negotiate about new one.I believe that extending the contract with Zvezda is his priority,at least for 1 more season when F4 will be in Belgrade. Maccabi with its game style for years,is million miles far away from Radonjic's basketball philosophy.
                        Crvena Zvezda 2020/2021



                        PG: Hall, Colom, Uskokovic
                        SG/PG: Walden
                        SG: Loyd
                        SF/SG: Lazic, Dobric, Radanov
                        SF/PF: Davidovac, Simonovic
                        PF: O'Bryant, Simanic
                        PF/C: Reath, Jagodic-Kuridza
                        C: Kuzmic, Nnoko

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post
                          Radonjic confirmed that he won't stay. There is a voice that Maccabi TA is interested in him in case Spahjia decides not to leave the NBA.
                          Show me where. Unless you have learned Serbian overnight and understand it better than us, relying on info from questionable press is bad. He has precisely said that formally and legally he is not really the coach anymore and that at the moment with unsettled finances it is not realistic to negotiate on a new contract. Once again, this will be settled during the summer and he will enter negotiations.

                          Of course Radonjic is a good coach but his basketball philosophy is completely different from what Maccabi wants. I think it's just empty press.

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                          • #14
                            So you guys need just 2 more players if everyone stays? And how's the financial things for you?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ZalgirisFanForLife View Post
                              So you guys need just 2 more players if everyone stays? And how's the financial things for you?
                              Not that good thanks for asking,but we will solve it like every year,and will be competitive like every season, no matter of the budget.....but it's really impressive and touching to see that half of this forum is taking care about Zvezda's financies....it's just hearbreaking
                              Crvena Zvezda 2020/2021



                              PG: Hall, Colom, Uskokovic
                              SG/PG: Walden
                              SG: Loyd
                              SF/SG: Lazic, Dobric, Radanov
                              SF/PF: Davidovac, Simonovic
                              PF: O'Bryant, Simanic
                              PF/C: Reath, Jagodic-Kuridza
                              C: Kuzmic, Nnoko

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