Anadolu Efes 2017-18

[trey from mars]

Nah I was always against Turkish, Israeli and some Ex-Soviet countries playing in European competitions. Some are Europe by accident, others are split 5/95, third have a political exemption etc. Culturally they are by far not European I always though they should compete in Asian Competitions. Has nothing to do with Fener actually

How very interesting. Would this theory also extend to a country which was ruled by one of the afforementioned ones for hundreds of years and has thus had its culture significantly shaped by it?

[CoachZ]

How very interesting. Would this theory also extend to a country which was ruled by one of the afforementioned ones for hundreds of years and has thus had its culture significantly shaped by it?

With that logic, Norwegian clubs should be playing in English Premier League.

[Cuneyt]

Nah I was always against Turkish, Israeli and some Ex-Soviet countries playing in European competitions. Some are Europe by accident, others are split 5/95, third have a political exemption etc. Culturally they are by far not European I always though they should compete in Asian Competitions. Has nothing to do with Fener actually

Diversity is the greatest characteristic for a group of people, may it be a club, a nation, or a continent. WTF is "European Culture" ?

Is it a culture of the nordic tribes, Scandinavia? Is it the arabic influence in Andalusia, or the Basque or Catalonia? Is it Germanic, Celtic? Is it a culture of italians...the great Roman Empire? Or is it Eastern Roman Empire? Is it the culture of Mycens, Helens, Minoans? Or is it the great civilisation of Mesopotamia, the Hittites, Asyrrians, babylon, Urartu, Phrigia? Are you talking about Macedonians, or is it Etruscan or even Kartagian? Is it Armenian, or the Seldjuks you are talking about? Is it Brits, the Anglosaxons, or the Huns who conquered north europe by the 5th century? Is your "european culture" represented by the Avars, or the Lombardians? Is it the Mongols that came and eradicated large areas in the 13th, is it Bulgars, or is it the AustroHungarians?

Did you even look at a european map and see the "civilisation" 2 millenias before...do you see the void there? Do you even realize the name of the white race comes from caucasus?

What an ignorant and pathetic approach! Disgusting!

[iskoch]

calm down guys. just ignore some turkish users. dont let them provoke you.

[Levenspiel]

Why? They (Huertel and Granger) may have their faults but they're still two of the best guards in Europe. Who was this perennially underachieving club going to replace them with? Did you think we were going to replace them with Stephen Curry and Russell Westbrook?

We had a team that came within one game of the Final Four, the biggest mistake was to dismantle that instead of being patient and nurturing the talent we had.

I respectfully disagree. Heurtel and Granger are overrated. I actually like to watch Heurtel's game very much, but not on my team please.

[Levenspiel]

Nah I was always against Turkish, Israeli and some Ex-Soviet countries playing in European competitions. Some are Europe by accident, others are split 5/95, third have a political exemption etc. Culturally they are by far not European I always though they should compete in Asian Competitions. Has nothing to do with Fener actually

Turkey is a part of Europe geographically and has been a part of it culturally, regardless of what one might think. I don't see a valid argument for opposition here.
We could have chosen Asia, and we may at some point in the future, but it's actually up to us, not to Europe.
Same thing for Russia.

[Erkan12]

Israel, Georgia, Armenia that I can understand... But Turkey is out of the discussion.

[janketa]

Nah I was always against Turkish, Israeli and some Ex-Soviet countries playing in European competitions. Some are Europe by accident, others are split 5/95, third have a political exemption etc. Culturally they are by far not European I always though they should compete in Asian Competitions. Has nothing to do with Fener actually

Serbia and Scandinavia are same culture? I didn't know that
We should go with Japan and China?

[trey from mars]

Ok, I hold my hands up. I didn't expect us to beat Barcelona and I certainly wasn't expecting a 20 point win away to Maccabi tonight. Looks like when the team clicks we can actually play some ball. Lets hope we can keep it up.

[atillafb]

Nah I was always against Turkish, Israeli and some Ex-Soviet countries playing in European competitions. Some are Europe by accident, others are split 5/95, third have a political exemption etc. Culturally they are by far not European I always though they should compete in Asian Competitions. Has nothing to do with Fener actually

Turkey's European part is more populated than Serbia and Greece. You usually make decent comments but this one was highly on the spastic side, m8.

[radallo]

Will efes terminate doellman's contract on nov30?

[ronmercer80]

so it is official now, they fired Perasovic and they are going to engage Ataman.

A disastrous choice in my opinion but we will see. It seems highly improbable to reach playoffs this year.

[Levenspiel]

so it is official now, they fired Perasovic and they are going to engage Ataman.

A disastrous choice in my opinion but we will see. It seems highly improbable to reach playoffs this year.

He might have a short term impact, he does well with limited rosters, but overall he does not seem to be a good choice. He's basically a troll, talks about refs in half of the interviews, and also been a terrible coach for youngsters, remembering the slapping incident in his GS days.

to copy myself from the EL signings thread:

"lol, the same trend as the summer at Efes; one good news, then another... you start to think, is it finally going to the right direction? and right after a completely terrible move to deflate all the hopes...
now brace yourselves for injury news from Efes."

[CoachZ]

Time to enlist Suacan Piskin and turn around this season. Jazz can talk Seibutis into leaving Neptunas and things already look more promising.

[tronis]

so it is official now, they fired Perasovic and they are going to engage Ataman.

A disastrous choice in my opinion but we will see. It seems highly improbable to reach playoffs this year.

I feel pitty about perasovic.I really liked his baskonia and last year efes.This year his transfer structure was a disaster and of course his gameplay was bad.If sfairopoulos fails again to take a title I would like him to oly.At least we will play a more appealing basketball.