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  • #76
    Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post
    i hope Blatt signs quickly with maccabi because my impression is that Real will look soon for a new coach.

    I watched the second half, what an awful game by Real's players. No plan at all, they kept on shooting 3pts crazily. And lololaso didn't even call a timeout in the last quarter.

    I hope it happens a miracle and he can stay but i don't know how.
    They thought that Doncic would perform as he performed in the regular season and in the Dacka playoffs, but they were wrong. Without Doncic and without Caroll's extra shots, they had problems. Llull alone can't carry his team always. Nocioni is old and Rudy Fernandez is out of form.
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    • #77
      Laso is Schuster of basketball, such overrated coach. Doesn't matter how we will finish season I hope board will change him to any good coach. Impossible to watch run n gun streetball without any defense. When we had all Spanish core players + sick shooters like Carroll and Rivers it somehow worked, but now, we have 1.5 PG in team and 5 PF - just summarizes Laso's job.

      As a Latvian, would welcome Trinchieri with Strelnieks in Real.

      Draper replacing Chacho is like Nani replacing CR.

      Hope Hunter, Reyes, Maciulis, Doncic, Llull, Carroll and Randolph stays.
      Last edited by archaz; 06-15-2017, 08:44 AM.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
        They thought that Doncic would perform as he performed in the regular season and in the Dacka playoffs, but they were wrong. Without Doncic and without Caroll's extra shots, they had problems. Llull alone can't carry his team always. Nocioni is old and Rudy Fernandez is out of form.
        ok but they didn't even try to play closer to the paint. The players seem to be abandoned to their own. Where's Oly's skilled center Hunter? This one should be his cousin.

        About Blatt it is said that he has agreed terms with Maccabi but he hasn't signed yet because Darussafaka doesn't free him till now without a buyout. In any case there are a lot of coaches better than lolaso.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by tevfik1907 View Post
          they thought that doncic would perform as he performed in the regular season and in the dacka playoffs, but they were wrong. Without doncic and without caroll's extra shots, they had problems. Llull alone can't carry his team always. Nocioni is old and rudy fernandez is out of form.
          100 % right!!!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by archaz View Post
            Laso is Schuster of basketball, such overrated coach. Doesn't matter how we will finish season I hope board will change him to any good coach. Impossible to watch run n gun streetball without any defense. When we had all Spanish core players + sick shooters like Carroll and Rivers it somehow worked, but now, we have 1.5 PG in team and 5 PF - just summarizes Laso's job.

            As a Latvian, would welcome Trinchieri with Strelnieks in Real.

            Draper replacing Chacho is like Nani replacing CR.

            Hope Hunter, Reyes, Maciulis, Doncic, Llull, Carroll and Randolph stays.
            In 2013-14 season (we did a monster season, and we lost ACB final and EL final) we played UNVELIEVABLE, AMAZING, I have never seen such basketball.

            Our team was Llull-Rudy-Darden-Mirotic-Bourousis, plus Chacho, Carroll, Slaughter, Reyes, Mejri.

            The Lolaso was Llull (he still is), Rudy (he is out), Chacho (in the NBA), Mirotic (in the NBA) and Reyes (37 years old). Adding shooters like Carroll or Rivers, and great defenders like Draper (1st years), Darden, Slaughter or Maciulis (not now). All is gone, and I think that the Lolaso has expired.

            Thanks Laso for that 6 years, but it's time to go...

            About the coach, I like Katsikaris, it won't be a bad choice for me. And Andrea would be another great option, and Strielniks could give us extra shooting. But the latvian was TIMMA, a pitty he refused us to go to Baskonia.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Mr Chacho View Post
              About the coach, I like Katsikaris, it won't be a bad choice for me. And Andrea would be another great option, and Strielniks could give us extra shooting. But the latvian was TIMMA, a pitty he refused us to go to Baskonia.
              Would prefer Blatt or Trinchieri over him. Maccabi can't afford to pay Blatt's buy-out and Trinchieri has also "outs" in his contract.

              Any information about possible Campazzo passport ? I saw he was giving interview during halftime, but didn't understand Spanish.
              Last edited by archaz; 06-15-2017, 05:28 PM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by archaz View Post
                Would prefer Blatt or Trinchieri over him. Maccabi can't afford to pay Blatt's buy-out and Trinchieri has also "outs" in his contract.

                Any information about possible Campazzo passport ? I saw he was giving interview during halftime, but didn't understand Spanish.
                He basically said that he wants a 2nd chance in Real madrid, he is very motivated and feel strange for being 1 month on holidays.

                He will get the spanish passport, he passed the exam.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Mr Chacho View Post
                  He basically said that he wants a 2nd chance in Real madrid, he is very motivated and feel strange for being 1 month on holidays.

                  He will get the spanish passport, he passed the exam.
                  Thanks friend.

                  Hope Campazzo, Doncic, Llull, Carroll, Rudy will be enough for 1/2 positions.

                  We need to get strong SF and do something with Ayon's defense.

                  TT is just sitting behind Randolph and getting salary which we could use for normal SF not Taylor. Miller would be one of the best options.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by archaz View Post
                    Thanks friend.

                    Hope Campazzo, Doncic, Llull, Carroll, Rudy will be enough for 1/2 positions.

                    We need to get strong SF and do something with Ayon's defense.

                    TT is just sitting behind Randolph and getting salary which we could use for normal SF not Taylor. Miller would be one of the best options.
                    Llull - Campazzo

                    Doncic - Rudy - Carroll

                    Very good rotation in the PG/SG positions how you said. The problems are in the others...

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Mr Chacho View Post
                      Llull - Campazzo

                      Doncic - Rudy - Carroll

                      Very good rotation in the PG/SG positions how you said. The problems are in the others...
                      Agree, but what are the rules for the next season ACB ? Still 4 homegrown + 2 non cotonou ?

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                      • #86
                        Rudy must be out.
                        Only damage when he in on court
                        2022/2023:
                        PG: Brown, D-BA, Ziv
                        SG: Baldwin, Hollins
                        SF: Hillard, Pnini, Menco
                        PF: Martin, Colson, Cohen
                        PF: Nebo, Poyters, Sorkin

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Roy M View Post
                          Rudy must be out.
                          Only damage when he in on court
                          He would be out like Navarro, but both are Spanish - needed for limit and untouchable.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Roy M View Post
                            Rudy must be out.
                            Only damage when he in on court
                            You can't throw to the bin a cupo like Rudy as easy as you are saying.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Mr Chacho View Post
                              In 2013-14 season (we did a monster season, and we lost ACB final and EL final) we played UNVELIEVABLE, AMAZING, I have never seen such basketball.

                              Our team was Llull-Rudy-Darden-Mirotic-Bourousis, plus Chacho, Carroll, Slaughter, Reyes, Mejri.

                              The Lolaso was Llull (he still is), Rudy (he is out), Chacho (in the NBA), Mirotic (in the NBA) and Reyes (37 years old). Adding shooters like Carroll or Rivers, and great defenders like Draper (1st years), Darden, Slaughter or Maciulis (not now). All is gone, and I think that the Lolaso has expired.

                              Thanks Laso for that 6 years, but it's time to go...

                              About the coach, I like Katsikaris, it won't be a bad choice for me. And Andrea would be another great option, and Strielniks could give us extra shooting. But the latvian was TIMMA, a pitty he refused us to go to Baskonia.
                              this analysis is entirely correct i beleive. Especially regarding el chacho's explosivity and charisma, it was more than decisive. Without him a more organized game is needed and the natural result is the one we watch now, even if Real is stronger this year under the paint.
                              I still hope his players will be able to win the championship and save him.

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                              • #90
                                One of the worst defense systems i ever seen. Dont remember any Euroleague-level team, that was allowing 90-100 pts in every second game.

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