Panathinaikos 2016-17

[jonga]

When you sign Bourousis you know his strengths and and his weakness. Baskonia last season was one of the best defenses and our offense was not totally static, so maybe the key is in the coach, he need to adapt the game to Bourousis. I know that you have not the same players and PAO plays totally different to that Baskonia, but Bou was the leader in a team that played fast game and run & gun. I think that with your budget, you should sign Perasovic, Peras knows how to play with Bourousis. He signed two seasons and 1.5 millions per year, so if he plays only 15 minutes is a fail.

[ronmercer80]

First of all, he is never going to play like he did last year, even if he had stayed in Baskonia with Perasovic as a coach.

Secondly, his defense compares to Radjulica.

Thirdly, whenever he plays, PAO plays worse cause offense becomes totally static.

Having watched Pao's games till now, Radjulica defended clearly better than him.

Pao would have lost in Germany (i don't remember such a suicide after a dominating game) due to his slowness against the guard's penetrations.

[KWSN-Men]

It's quite simple. We should have never signed him.

[ronmercer80]

Regarding Pana, Charalampopoulos again DNP despite Gist's absence, evidently only Pedoulakis trusts him. I believe that if this situation continues he will protest, considering that Dimitri's project too is to launch him as well as other talents (Lountzis dnp too but this isn't a great surprise).

[R1ou]

Regarding Pana, Charalampopoulos again DNP despite Gist's absence, evidently only Pedoulakis trusts him. I believe that if this situation continues he will protest, considering that Dimitri's project too is to launch him as well as other talents (Lountzis dnp too but this isn't a great surprise).

Charalampopoulos usually gets around 20 minutes in the Greek league,the problem here is not the playing time.However he's too timid and barely attempts more than 4 shots per game,that's his main issue right now and the lack of motivation maybe.Lountzis on the other hand,due to his height is a promising project and because he's still 18 it's logical enough as you say not to get any serious PT on EL.But as well as Charalampopoulos,Lountzis gets some playing time at the local championship.

By the way,finally Bochoridis manages to show some signs of life and slowly cracks into Pao's rotation with James' absence.Let's see if after some years of drought,Pao will provide some players for the national pool(I'll add Pappas here).

[maccabeo]

Charalampopoulos usually gets around 20 minutes in the Greek league,the problem here is not the playing time.However he's too timid and barely attempts more than 4 shots per game,that's his main issue right now and the lack of motivation maybe.Lountzis on the other hand,due to his height is a promising project and because he's still 18 it's logical enough as you say not to get any serious PT on EL.But as well as Charalampopoulos,Lountzis gets some playing time at the local championship.

By the way,finally Bochoridis manages to show some signs of life and slowly cracks into Pao's rotation with James' absence.Let's see if after some years of drought,Pao will provide some players for the national pool(I'll add Pappas here).

i hardly admire this team- they hardly dramatically reduced budget, they lately have mediocre teams, but they are always alive. differently than my dead team with no future.

[Johnny7]

i hardly admire this team- they hardly dramatically reduced budget, they lately have mediocre teams, but they are always alive. differently than my dead team with no future.

They reduced their budget 2 years ago but it's way up again now. The opinion of their president changes every day so when he says something the next day he does the opposite.

[saras]

another trophy for the green emperor yesterday as we won the greek cup against aris in their court. we had won championship in the enemy's court(1999),we had won euroleague in the enemy's court(2002),so it was just a matter of time this would happen with a greek cup as well. 60th title for the basketball team and 22nd year in a row with at least one trophy.

now we emphasize in remaining euroleague matches to finish (under normal circumstances) 5th(if we win laboral) or 6th(if we lose) and try to get in the f4

[Victorious]

another trophy for the green emperor yesterday as we won the greek cup against aris in their court. we had won championship in the enemy's court(1999),we had won euroleague in the enemy's court(2002),so it was just a matter of time this would happen with a greek cup as well. 60th title for the basketball team and 22nd year in a row with at least one trophy.

now we emphasize in remaining euroleague matches to finish (under normal circumstances) 5th(if we win laboral) or 6th(if we lose) and try to get in the f4

It was a loss for our team. The hooligans took over the game. Gate 13 let our team down.

[bukefalos]

Nowadays, Olympiacos fans claimed that they are the best team in the last decade.
When I checked numbers of trophies, Panathinaikos clearly dominated the Reds

I do not understand why they are talking like this
It is getting funnier

[Tevfik1907]

Nowadays, Olympiacos fans claimed that they are the best team in the last decade.
When I checked numbers of trophies, Panathinaikos clearly dominated the Reds

I do not understand why they are talking like this
It is getting funnier

Of course Pana is better than Oly when it comes to championship numbers.

Pana ;

Euroleague: 6 titles; 1996, 2000, 2002, 2007, 2009, 2011
Intercontinental Cup: 1996
Greek National League: 34 titles; 1945-46, 1946-47, 1949-50, 1950-51, 1953-54, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1966-67, 1968-69, 1970-71, 1971-72, 1972-73, 1973-74, 1974-75, 1976-77, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1981-82, 1983-84, 1997-98, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11, 2012-13, 2013-14

Oly ;

Euroleague: 3 titles; 1997, 2012, 2013
Intercontinental Cup: 2013
Greek National League: 12 titles; 1948-49, 1959-60, 1975-76, 1977-78, 1992-93, 1993-94, 1994-95, 1995-96, 1996-97, 2011-12, 2014-15, 2015-16

And if not for Pana player Spanoulis' transfer to Olympiacos, they would stay at 1 Euroleague title, and Pana could win 1 or 2 more titles in these years.

[childress67]

Nowadays, Olympiacos fans claimed that they are the best team in the last decade.
When I checked numbers of trophies, Panathinaikos clearly dominated the Reds

I do not understand why they are talking like this
It is getting funnier

We are talking about euroleague success in this decade...if you don't know maths we are the only team with two euroleague titles this decade...of course pao history is by far better than oly...

[anthuan]

We are talking about euroleague success in this decade...if you don't know maths we are the only team with two euroleague titles this decade...of course pao history is by far better than oly...

This decade is not over yet man. There are 3 more championships and there is Fenerbahçe with Obradovic. I don't get surprised if we take every cup in the next years. Even 1 cup more + 3 f4 more makes us the best team in this decade.

[bukefalos]

We are talking about euroleague success in this decade...if you don't know maths we are the only team with two euroleague titles this decade...of course pao history is by far better than oly...

I checked last 10 years einstein.
european trophy + local trophy.

If Reds want, we can calculate from 2012.. loll

[saras]

Nowadays, Olympiacos fans claimed that they are the best team in the last decade.
When I checked numbers of trophies, Panathinaikos clearly dominated the Reds

I do not understand why they are talking like this
It is getting funnier

their presidents,eggeyed bros, are the funniest guys in greece. every time they talk to press they make us forget our real life problems and give us a reason to laugh so hard. 2 years ago they lost the final against real and they said the same things they said yesterday about fener(home court advantage etc) and that they were the best team of the last 7 (seven!!!!!) years. yesterday they said they are the best team of the last 9 (nine!!!!!) years. the counting starts exactly the year that there is no other team with more euroleagues than them. however panathinaikos also has 2 trophies in the last 9 years (2009,2011) and more than double local trophies,so....

ps1. they hang banners for even participating in the f4. thats the difference between panathinaikos and olympiakos. we consider success only lifting the trophy,they are happy even when they win nothing and they hang banners in their locker room to prove that (its not photoshop)


ps2. they keep on crying about f4 in opponents court,but they forget that greece has also hosted 3 f4s. 1993 in peiraius (olympiakos was disqualified and paok lost in the f4),2000 in thessaloniki (olympiakos was disqualified and panathinaikos won the trophy) and 2007 in athens when the team was already under their control and they were of course disqualified once more and panathinaikos won the trophy

ps3. you deserve the trophy,you go inside and win it against triple budget and the home team