Real Madrid 2015/16

[Mr Chacho]

I think the european champion deserve a thread

Our history (founded the 22nd of Marc, 1931):

Regional competitions:

Comunity of Madrid tournament: 20 (1984-1985, 1985-1986, 1986-1987, 1987-1988, 1989-1990, 1991-1992, 1994-1995, 1995-1996, 1997-1998, 2000-2001, 2004-2005, 2005-2006, 2006-2007, 2007-2008, 2008-2009, 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012, 2012-2013, 2013-2014) and 8 times runner up

Castillan championship: 11 (1932-1933, 1941-1942, 1942-1943, 1943-1944, 1947-1948, 1948-1949, 1949-1950, 1952-1953, 1953-1954, 1955-1956, 1956-1957) and 8 times runner up

Regional championship: 8 (1957-1958, 1958-1959, 1960-1961, 1961-1962, 1962-1963, 1963-1964, 1965-1966, 1966-1967) and 1 time runner up

National competitions:

Spanish league: 32 (1956-1957, 1957-1958, 1959-1960, 1960-1961, 1961-1962, 1962-1963, 1963-1964, 1964-1965, 1965-1966, 1967-1968, 1968-1969, 1969-1970, 1970-1971, 1971-1972, 1972-1973, 1973-1974, 1974-1975, 1975-1976, 1976-1977, 1978-1979, 1979-1980, 1981-1982, 1983-1984, 1984-1985, 1985-1986, 1992-1993, 1993-1994, 1999-2000, 2004-2005, 2006-2007, 2012-2013, 2014-2015) and 11 times runner up

Spanish cup: 25 (1950-1951, 1951-1952, 1953-1954, 1955-1956, 1956-1957, 1959-1960, 1960-1961, 1961-1962, 1964-1965, 1965-1966, 1966-1967, 1969-1970, 1970-1971, 1971-1972, 1972-1973, 1973-1974, 1974-1975, 1976-1977, 1984-1985, 1985-1986, 1988-1989, 1992-1993, 2011-2012, 2013-2014, 2014-2015) and 19 times runner up

Spanish supercup: 4 (1984-1985, 2012-2013, 2013-2014, 2014-2015) and 4 times runner up

Prince of Asturias cup: 1 time runner up

International competitions:

Euroleague: 9 (1963-1964, 1964-1965, 1966-1967, 1967-1968, 1973-1974, 1977-1978, 1979-1980, 1994-1995, 2014-15) and 8 times runner up

Intercontinetal cup (World cup): 5 (1976, 1977, 1978, 1981 and 2015) and 2 times runner up

FIBA Saporta Cup: 4 (1983-1984, 1988-1989, 1991-1992, 1996-1997) and 2 times runner up

Korac Cup: 1 (1987-1988) and 1 time runner up

Eurocup-ULEB cup: 1 (2006-2007) and 1 time runner up

McDonald's championship: 1 time runner up

European supercup (not official): 4 (1984-1985, 1988-1989, 1989-1990) and 1 time runner up

Latin cup (not official): 1 (1952-1953)

Christmas tournament (not official): 26 (1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006) and 13 times runner up

Our roster:

23 (G) - Sergio Llull (Menorca, Balearic Islands, Spain) : 27 years, 190 cm and 94 Kg

13 (PG) - Sergio Rodríguez (Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Canarian Islands, Spain): 29 years, 189 cm and 80 Kg

17 (G) - Luka Doncic (Ljubljana, Slovenia): 16 years, 198 cm and 88 Kg

5 (SG/SF) - Rudy Fernández (Mallorca, Balearic Islands, Spain): 30 years, 196 cm and 84 Kg

20 (SG) - Jaycee Carroll (Utah State, USA): 32 years, 188 cm and 75 Kg

8 (F) - Jonas Maciulis (Kaunas, Lithuania): 30 years, 201 cm and 107 Kg

44 (SG/SF) - Jeffery Taylor (Norrköping, Sweden): 26 years, 201 cm and 102 Kg

33 (PF/C) - Trey Thompkins (Georgia, USA): 25 years, 208 cm and 111 Kg

6 (F) - Andrés Nocioni (Santa Fe, Argentina): 35 years, 203 cm and 102 Kg

9 (PF/C) - Felipe Reyes (Córdoba, Andalucía, Spain): 35 years, 204 cm and 118 Kg

14 (C) - Gustavo Ayón (Nayarit, Mexico): 30 years, 208 cm and 114 Kg

41 (C) - Guillermo Hernangómez (Madrid, Spain): 22 years, 210 cm and 115 Kg

Players on loan:

Murcia? - PG - Facundo Campazzo (Córdoba, Argentina): 24 years

Bilbao - PF - Álex Suárez (Menorca, Balearic Islands, Spain): 21 years


Everybody is welcomed to post here, always from the respect, of course. I will update the first post if it's necessary. Enjoy your posting here!

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Of course Madrid deserve it's own thread, I'm glad you've created it.

You can guess which topic I'm actualy the most interested in, what's the status with Dončič? Does inclusion in the first team means he'll stop playing for the youth teams and don't you think a loan to some lower level team would be better for his overall development?

[Mr Chacho]

Of course Madrid deserve it's own thread, I'm glad you've created it.

You can guess which topic I'm actualy the most interested in, what's the status with Dončič? Does inclusion in the first team means he'll stop playing for the youth teams and don't you think a loan to some lower level team would be better for his overall development?

Luka will be part of the first team, this is what Herreros said. Most probably he won't play youth tournaments and he will focused entirely on playing with seniors. Laso gave him a lot of minutes when he came with him. Lolaso believe in his potential and Paco Redondo will be there (he was the Junior's coach and now he will be Lolaso's assistant coach).
I think he is ready to play against senior players, he is a superstar but step by step, we should take care of him.

[Efesdxb]

Can we consider depth chart as follows:

PG: Sergio Llull - Sergio Rodriguez - Luka Doncic
SG: Rudy Fernandez - Jaycee Carroll
SF: Jeffrey Taylor - Jonas Maciulis
PF: Trey Thompkins - Andres Nocioni
C: Gustavo Ayon - Felipe Reyes - Marcus Slaughter - Guillermo Hernangómez

IMO at Euroleague, Hernangomez will be the men out of roster.

[Mr Chacho]

Can we consider depth chart as follows:

PG: Sergio Llull - Sergio Rodriguez - Luka Doncic
SG: Rudy Fernandez - Jaycee Carroll
SF: Jeffrey Taylor - Jonas Maciulis
PF: Trey Thompkins - Andres Nocioni
C: Gustavo Ayon - Felipe Reyes - Marcus Slaughter - Guillermo Hernangómez

IMO at Euroleague, Hernangomez will be the men out of roster.

Yes.

And in ACB league we can give rest to Nocioni or Reyes, thanks to Slaughter is cotonou and with Willy we have 5 "cupos" (with Doncic 6) and to play at ACB everyteam must have 4.

[Mr Chacho]

Thompkins officially: http://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2...trey-thompkins

[Mr Chacho]

Taylor officially: http://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2...jeffery-taylor

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Damn, after yesterday against Khimki, 15 points, 5 rebounds and 10 assists for Dončič against Unicaja. I know this Real without it's NT members is still a lot different team than it will be in a while, however that's far surpassing anything I'd expect from a 16 years old kid.

[Mr Chacho]

Damn, after yesterday against Khimki, 15 points, 5 rebounds and 10 assists for Dončič against Unicaja. I know this Real without it's NT members is still a lot different team than it will be in a while, however that's far surpassing anything I'd expect from a 16 years old kid.

Vs Khimki he was bad at shooting (2/11), but he ended with 9 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds for 18 of PIR (plus 3 steals). In two games vs Euroleague teams, he averaged :
12 points, 9.5 assists and 5 rebounds. Astonishing and a beast.

Joško, what do you think about this play?: http://kiaenzona.com/liga-endesa/car...a-video-41742/

Is that Doncic or Larry Bird?

[Mr Chacho]

We ended 3rd at Costa del Sol tournament after loosing both matches.

75:80 vs Khimki and 73:74 vs Unicaja

[Joško Poljak Fan]

https://vine.co/v/eFvBtt3DYD3

Damn. I'm trying to cool down the hype, considering what happened to Bečirovič, however Luka keeps surprising me.

[Mr Chacho]

https://vine.co/v/eFvBtt3DYD3

Damn. I'm trying to cool down the hype, considering what happened to Bečirovič, however Luka keeps surprising me.

We thought the same. Luka would have done a great job with Slovenia at this Eurobasket, Zoran was too alone.

[CoachZ]

https://vine.co/v/eFvBtt3DYD3

Damn. I'm trying to cool down the hype, considering what happened to Bečirovič, however Luka keeps surprising me.

He will be a stud, I like his work ethic and the way he approaches the game. Still a lot of holes to fill but I think more than that it will be key to:

- Go on loan somewhere in ACB instead of a Hezonja or less role in RM. Play 20+ minutes, and feel the game and compete. Best would be in a team with no special ambitions and results, where he can be relaxed and play like a champ.
- Avoid NBA switch Hezonja style. Play at least 1 full season in RM system as an important contributor.

If he manages to do those two things, he will be ready for someone to take a stab at him in NBA and give him minutes and keep the patience with his development.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

We thought the same. Luka would have done a great job with Slovenia at this Eurobasket, Zoran was too alone.

I still have troubles buying into "16 years olds playing a man's game". I wasn't much of a player myself, but at the age of 18 didn't let any talented 16 years old mess with me, including some U16 NT ones and I've got troubles realising how Luka is doing it that well against fully grown profesionals.

He was asked to join the NT, but people said he prefers to work individualy since he is playing for Real's first team and imo that's not unreasonable at all.

@CoachZ, agreed.

Mr Chacho, what are the expectations of Hernangomez this year? he seemed doing pretty well in the NT considering his minutes and experience.

[Mr Chacho]

I still have troubles buying into "16 years olds playing a man's game". I wasn't much of a player myself, but at the age of 18 didn't let any talented 16 years old mess with me, including some U16 NT ones and I've got troubles realising how Luka is doing it that well against fully grown profesionals.

He was asked to join the NT, but people said he prefers to work individualy since he is playing for Real's first team and imo that's not unreasonable at all.

@CoachZ, agreed.

Mr Chacho, what are the expectations of Hernangomez this year? he seemed doing pretty well in the NT considering his minutes and experience.

I am sure he will play a lot at ACB league, giving rest to Ayón. At EL, he will play, but less minutes.
Phil Jackson believe in his abilities and potential, so I will do the same.