EL 2024/25 - Round 1

[coinho]

Some people here are to sensitive.
I said my opinion about Trinchieri which can be true or not, time will show.
Same as Edgar talked about "washed "Serbian players, which i am not thinking thats true but lets wait and see. In that thinking i can say that Edgar said it because he is Croatian, which i dont think it is case (i guess).
That is my opinion on Trinchieri thats it, not a big deal.. But if we want to talk about Zvezda-Partizan relations on Trinicheri case, i dont have any reason to dislike him for that. He even sued Partizan while he had statments in conference media like "do you think that i am here for money?" (when he was in Partizan).

[coinho]

Everybody or almost everybody here support some club, of course everybody support his club in many ways, even if it's not right.
But, he is first one who all the time tries to put discussion on infantile level.
On my comment about Zalgiris' play vs Barcelona, he responded about trash talks, and CZ last season.
It's insane.

Now, you can kiss each other.
Kiss the bride!

[Nemanja95]

Mate, just don't feed the trolls, please! I mean, I don't want to read opinion about our coach that is corrupted because of subjective perspective of Red Star fans. Yes, he coached Partizan, yes, everything about Partizan is bad and everything about Red Star is great, I can understand that, now, can we move to the topic, and that is the first round of EuroLeague, not who won Serbian cup three years ago.

Personally, I think that quality of teams in EuroLeague is declining. No more promising young players, even Americans are too old to truly be the great players that they used to be. This league is league of washed 30+ years olds trying to play competitive basketball. Real is weaker team than last year, and so is Barcelona, Milano, in Panathianikos main guards are Sloukas and Brown, and they are also past their prime years.

Magnificent night in Kaunas, great game, and important win. Iggy and Francisco were on fire, Iggy will be again offensive powerhouse in his team. We have many options at SF and PF positions, so even without our only true PF, we managed to play really great. Our goal should be to be in first ten teams in the end. So, to be ahead of Milano, Partizan, Bayern, Virtus and/or Red Star, that should be enough.

Everybody or almost everybody here support some club, of course everybody support his club in many ways, even if it's not right.
But, he is first one who all the time tries to put discussion on infantile level.
On my comment about Zalgiris' play vs Barcelona, he responded about trash talks, and CZ last season.
It's insane.

[coinho]

He is just pointing out the truth.

You think, as his lawyer?

I mean, only way to see that is to wait to finish this season or at least to wait for 10-15 el games. Othewise that is opinion which everybody can have.

[Toruko]

Why are u mad?

He is just pointing out the truth.

[coinho]

You think Zvezda is a playoff team? Yes, most of the Serbian players are washed. Kalinic plays good, not gonna lie but we will see can he keep like this during the season. Nedovic will not repeat again game like this probably in his life. Davidovac is useless. Dobric meh. Teodosic is done. You can't expect Zvezda to be in the playoffs with these players. Bolomboy will also not repeat last season. So you have Codi who was maybe 3rd best player in Baskonia last year as a main player. Canaan who had games last season where he played 8 minutes and who was horrible in every important game for Olympiacos and is horrible defensive player. Daum? DNP almost every game for Efes. Luka Mitrovic is probably your best big guy. That's horrible. I mean, Zvezda lost against Split

Why are u mad?

[Edgar]

Mate, just don't feed the trolls, please! I mean, I don't want to read opinion about our coach that is corrupted because of subjective perspective of Red Star fans. Yes, he coached Partizan, yes, everything about Partizan is bad and everything about Red Star is great, I can understand that, now, can we move to the topic, and that is the first round of EuroLeague, not who won Serbian cup three years ago.

Personally, I think that quality of teams in EuroLeague is declining. No more promising young players, even Americans are too old to truly be the great players that they used to be. This league is league of washed 30+ years olds trying to play competitive basketball. Real is weaker team than last year, and so is Barcelona, Milano, in Panathianikos main guards are Sloukas and Brown, and they are also past their prime years.

Magnificent night in Kaunas, great game, and important win. Iggy and Francisco were on fire, Iggy will be again offensive powerhouse in his team. We have many options at SF and PF positions, so even without our only true PF, we managed to play really great. Our goal should be to be in first ten teams in the end. So, to be ahead of Milano, Partizan, Bayern, Virtus and/or Red Star, that should be enough.

Yes, Barca and Real are weaker this season but Oly, Fener and especially Efes are much stronger. Maccabi is weaker but then you have Zalgiris, Baskonia and other teams...and they are all a little bit stronger than last year. So it's all the same at the end. And this year we have players from the USA like W.Gabriel, Nwora, Metu, maybe Dennis Smith, even Saben Lee to come here and they all had some kind of role in the NBA and are not old. + all Europeans that returned in their more or less prime years like Osman, Yurtseven, Garuba, Vezenkov...Idk, I would say quality is great. When I remember before 10 years what teams played in the EL...I will never forget Zielona Gora with Ponitka as a best player. Or Nanterre...or Cedevita! Good Lord....those teams would be 2-32 now.

[Edgar]

It;s strange but Efes won the game with the same players who lost against the same opponent playin game, minus Clyburn

Levenspiel and me were right that Clyburn leaving is the best reinforcement for Efes, Mijatovic's transfers were mediocre, both Johnson and Edgar's king Nwora

Please, remind me how Nunn played for Panathinaikos in the first 4, 5 games? I think he was shooting for 3 something like 1/25. We saw how season ended. Nwora will be good, he just needs more freedom like Lahahaharkin has = the most overrated player in the recent EL history.

[Edgar]

On the wings of Serbian "washed" players, Zvezda taking first W.
Kalinic is biggest signing for Zvezda this season and Nedovic had one of the best games since his return to Zvezda. Probably we should expect now 2-3 bad games from him but if somehow he keeps like this, opponents will have hard job to stop him.

You think Zvezda is a playoff team? Yes, most of the Serbian players are washed. Kalinic plays good, not gonna lie but we will see can he keep like this during the season. Nedovic will not repeat again game like this probably in his life. Davidovac is useless. Dobric meh. Teodosic is done. You can't expect Zvezda to be in the playoffs with these players. Bolomboy will also not repeat last season. So you have Codi who was maybe 3rd best player in Baskonia last year as a main player. Canaan who had games last season where he played 8 minutes and who was horrible in every important game for Olympiacos and is horrible defensive player. Daum? DNP almost every game for Efes. Luka Mitrovic is probably your best big guy. That's horrible. I mean, Zvezda lost against Split

[markkanen]

Civilized like you, who don't do anything else except you insult, provoke and troll.

Mate, just don't feed the trolls, please! I mean, I don't want to read opinion about our coach that is corrupted because of subjective perspective of Red Star fans. Yes, he coached Partizan, yes, everything about Partizan is bad and everything about Red Star is great, I can understand that, now, can we move to the topic, and that is the first round of EuroLeague, not who won Serbian cup three years ago.

Personally, I think that quality of teams in EuroLeague is declining. No more promising young players, even Americans are too old to truly be the great players that they used to be. This league is league of washed 30+ years olds trying to play competitive basketball. Real is weaker team than last year, and so is Barcelona, Milano, in Panathianikos main guards are Sloukas and Brown, and they are also past their prime years.

Magnificent night in Kaunas, great game, and important win. Iggy and Francisco were on fire, Iggy will be again offensive powerhouse in his team. We have many options at SF and PF positions, so even without our only true PF, we managed to play really great. Our goal should be to be in first ten teams in the end. So, to be ahead of Milano, Partizan, Bayern, Virtus and/or Red Star, that should be enough.

[janketa]

Wilbewclown true shooting against Pao last season: 6/29... 20%

Just for 3pt: 3/20... 15%

[janketa]

I had the same arguments back in the days on one of Maccabi forums about Wilbekin. I was one of the few that really didn't like Wilbekin especially the way Sfairopolous used him (by the way I don't like him as a coach, as human being he looks like a nice person but not as a coach ) and the salary that he was getting while the vast majority of Maccabi fans liked him. I think he is decent player but only as role guy and normal salary not star player salary, no more than that .
I wish him a fast recovory.

Most people don't like him, I am closest to your opinion because I had similar post last season during the biggest hype. As role player, payed 300-600k like other 10 minutes players he could be useful, or lets say less dangerous for his own team.

[Nemanja95]

sorry if i hurted ur emotions boy (:
but please try to act civilazed at least..

Civilized like you, who don't do anything else except you insult, provoke and troll.

[Toja]

Coach decision, he was out of 12 for ABA league match and yesterday he barely got any minutes despite the fact that both Bolomboy and Mitrovic had problem with fouls.
He is mobile for his height, i hope he will be part of our rotation in future games. When Teodosic come back from stupid EL suspension, it will be easy for our centers.

Yea I think he got some potential , hope he will get playing time to prove that. Thank you.

[coinho]

Why Uros Plavsic didn't get any minutes? saw him in some pre season games and he was good.

Coach decision, he was out of 12 for ABA league match and yesterday he barely got any minutes despite the fact that both Bolomboy and Mitrovic had problem with fouls.
He is mobile for his height, i hope he will be part of our rotation in future games. When Teodosic come back from stupid EL suspension, it will be easy for our centers.