F4: Fenerbahce - Panathinaikos

[Toruko]

Biberovic doesnt need to create for himself or for others right now. It will be enough if he makes the shots from the corner or forward positions. I expect Dorsey to start and if he makes his shots it will be a great start. Guduric raised from the deaths and Wilbekin can create as well. I didnt even mention Hayes Davis or Pierre who is considered to be a great spot up shooter himself. Hayes Davis will be almost unstoppable in the low post.

Fenerbahce has many more options in comparison to PAO.

[janketa]

Im talking about mid range shots from main ball handlers. Biberovic wont get any mid range shots cause he wont be in any 2 v 2 action as the ball handler. He will wait as a spot shooter if the ball reaches him.

As for dorsey he cant pass by his opponent if he tries to play a pick n roll. He will mostly do isos, dribble and shoot from the perimeter.


Ataman isnt known for his defence but efes had a great defence all those years and PANATHINAIKOS had the 2nd best defence this year (and i think 1st if we take in consideration our pace compared to loserbiakos for example).

Yes we realy play rare 2 on 2(mostly from Guduric), dorsey and wolbeclown play isos all the way, but when occurs position Dorsey is capable to make those shoots with high percentage, Biberovic also but again not from the p&r situations and I could agree about that with you. That is mostly Saras's fault because he don't use more the best and proved simple killing action .Ataman use it all the time, but tbh he always make roster that is capable of doing that. We don't have experts like Sloukas and Nunn, but I am sure it would be better if we at least try

[janketa]

I like Biberovic. This was his break-out year and he might turn into something special. Several times he got lost in physical games, but the last Monaco game showed he's improving there, too.

Yes, I think the same, but my complaint was like I wrote in previous post, he has body and more or less skillset to use more drible, shooting from pick and of the block, he has to penetrate with more accuracy, then he could be complete player.

[Victorious]

It’s a F4. Everyone can win the title. I preferred Fener over Monaco, because I supported Calathes, Papagiannis and Saras and because teams like Monaco don’t have a lot of pressure. Now this is highly interesting. Panathinaikos, Olympiacos and Fener fans will fill the arena. While Real are the favourites agains all opponents. Three former Panathinaikos players, Saras, Calathes and Papagiannis will take arms against Pao who will battle with former Efes coach Ataman and former Olympiacos and Fener glory child Sloukas. One for the books.

Sloukas may well end up playing a Final Four tournament against two of his former teams.

[janketa]

yes, but if needed he can turn the game into a wrestling match. Remember the ugliest EL final ever vs one of the best offensive teams? Maybe only after Limoges-Benetton ages ago.

Just one notice about that game, you probably remember, efes didn't played hard rock defense as much as Real players successed to miss all open shoots. We must be real

[Axl Rose Is God]

I expected MTA but refs didnt allow, and it is now a better match up with my fav Greeks. We will win this one easily, and beat Oly again in finals. But if it werent for us I would want PAO to get the title even tho they got the lowest life form on the planet, ergin.

[paspalj]

I expected MTA but refs didnt allow, and it is now a better match up with my fav Greeks. We will win this one easily, and beat Oly again in finals. But if it werent for us I would want PAO to get the title even tho they got the lowest life form on the planet, ergin.

Lol this post is a rollercoaster of emotions

[janketa]

VildoKING against wilbeclown , what a battle of titans, VildoKing is of course better but wilbeclown is dangerous cos when he bricks, ball enters basket of the table.

Further, VildoKing has better looking girlfriend, but wilbeclown has nicer shoes, he touchs them 150 times per game, he loves his shoes

51:49 imo and Pao goes to final, Oly will wait there

[R1ou]

Just one notice about that game, you probably remember, efes didn't played hard rock defense as much as Real players successed to miss all open shoots. We must be real

Could be a possible scenario but you forgot to inform EL to organise the f4 at your court so you may have a chance to win.

[Axl Rose Is God]

Cool storay bruh. Refs stole our title in Berlin and we will reclaim it this year, no escaping pain, you belong to us

[janketa]

Could be a possible scenario but you forgot to inform EL to organise the f4 at your court so you may have a chance to win.

Are you high dude, you are Oly fan are you? Don;t understand a word what is point of this post

[Edgar]

I can't even express how bad Vildoza is. Last game in 10 mins 0 pts, 5 turnovers. Today he played 23 minutes. He had 3 points 1/9. Brick by brick. He takes shots 10m far away from the basket. Even if Birch doesn't come for the Greek playoffs I would still put Balcerowski as 6th foreigner. Moraitis plays very good and 7 times better than Vildoza. Also Balce had great game today and he really tries while Vildoza only tries to piss off everyone. Worst 1.7M euros spent in the history of basketball! Well done to his agent.

[Spittifiz]

putting jokes aside i genuinely see pao ahead by a step. our big men are underperforming compared to pao. among motley, sanli, and papagiannis the player i trust the most is papagiannis and thats not a good feeling at all. neither wilbekin, dorsey, nor guduric are players who inspire confidence in critical moments. and if we end up in a close score situation towards the end i believe pao will come out on top. if fener wants to win they need to lead by 7-9 points from the beginning of the game. otherwise the possibility of all fener fans having a heart attack in the final minutes is not that low

[Edgar]

Does anyone knows someone who has tickets for the F4? I knew one guy but he sold his tickets even before series vs Maccabi. I literally tried everything. I even asked via some contacts in 1 of the headquarters of GATE 13 because I heard they were buying massive and even they are searching also for the tickets. So I am asking who the hell bought all those tickets from Greece? I am kinda losing hope. I need 2 of them! It would be perfect if someone from Greece knows someone who has tickets so I can solve that fast. I am not flying to Berlin because of the promise someone has whoever helps me will be awarded from me. Or if you know some forum, even agency where I can search...

[paspalj]

Does anyone knows someone who has tickets for the F4? I knew one guy but he sold his tickets even before series vs Maccabi. I literally tried everything. I even asked via some contacts in 1 of the headquarters of GATE 13 because I heard they were buying massive and even they are searching also for the tickets. So I am asking who the hell bought all those tickets from Greece? I am kinda losing hope. I need 2 of them! It would be perfect if someone from Greece knows someone who has tickets so I can solve that fast. I am not flying to Berlin because of the promise someone has whoever helps me will be awarded from me. Or if you know some forum, even agency where I can search...

I believe you do realize how many people are looking for those 2 tickets at the moment I think that unless you have a season ticket *or* you are willing to spend $1000 each *or* you find someone that is willing to sell at a fair price you're SOL. The platform that EL setup for tickets to be resold at a fair price is a complete stupidity because it offers zero incentives for people to sell there.