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  • #61
    Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
    I thought he was going to Monaco. Anyway, I really like this move if official.
    I like him too very much, but he is too similar with Osmani imo

    If this means that Willis is on exit doors I think it's ok. To be clear efes should keep Osmani, and if this is replace for him then I don't know

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    • #62
      Hm, so Calathes is the target for Monaco.

      Poirier is in advanced talks with Efes...

      Keenan Evans done deal for Olympiacos.

      Very, very interesting. Efes finally makes good moves. Crazy what Can did last summer.

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      • #63
        Vildoza is done. I give up. This guy is so mentally bad it's not even funny. Against Promitheas he had 5 turnovers in 10 minutes. 0 points. 2 turnovers were 5 seconds violations on the inbound when both times players were open. Then he gives the ball right in the hands on the lateral pass and just looks while fastbreak goes on...I heard people were booing to him. We were 1st in the league before the playoffs even before this game and this was perfect opportunity for him to gain some time and he does this. Moraitis plays 700 times better. If look can kill then Vildoza died 8 times today how Ataman watched him. There is no way he will stay next year. It's time for Vildoza to learn not Chinese but Mongolian! He is too bad even for China!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Edgar View Post
          Vildoza is done. I give up. This guy is so mentally bad it's not even funny. Against Promitheas he had 5 turnovers in 10 minutes. 0 points. 2 turnovers were 5 seconds violations on the inbound when both times players were open. Then he gives the ball right in the hands on the lateral pass and just looks while fastbreak goes on...I heard people were booing to him. We were 1st in the league before the playoffs even before this game and this was perfect opportunity for him to gain some time and he does this. Moraitis plays 700 times better. If look can kill then Vildoza died 8 times today how Ataman watched him. There is no way he will stay next year. It's time for Vildoza to learn not Chinese but Mongolian! He is too bad even for China!
          Yeah he was pretty bad and kinda ruined the vibe. I understand how someone can be unsatisfied with their work environment but if you're getting paid millions to do your hobby, I don't know man, just suck it up and be ready. It's just a couple of months and if you want you can leave after. You're not in a sweatshop making shoes and sweaters.
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          • #65
            vildoza probably wont even play in the greek playoffs cause we have 7 foreigners, looking for a center to replace balcerowski for these games and only 6 can play in each game. lessort wont be left alone against loserbiakos centers and their commandos in grey so vildoza will be the 7th in each game and will play only if someone is injured. papapetrou is playing well, so he can get more minutes from cyclist who can play as sg some minutes too.

            vildoza can go back to serbia and play for partizan or red star. he can forget about getting 1,7m/ year as well of course. maybe he wont even find half of them. if he decline an offer to be released cause he thinks he should keep on earning that amount of money, he can forget about seeing his girlfriend on daily basis as well, whom she looks like she cares more than PANATHINAIKOS. the past has shown (for example andrew andrews) that we have no problem keeping a player in the stands if he doesnt agree on leaving the team.
            Sasa Pukl for MVP

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            • #66
              His girlfriend is the only good thing about him. He had 2 good games in the whole season. Away vs Monaco and vs Valencia where he was the best on the court. Crazy how bad he is. Btw I watched Birch tonight against Gran Canaria. He is looking very good. He is still mobile...He would be very nice backup for the playoffs. I mean, he can't be worse than Balcerowski.

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              • #67
                So Tavares stays in Real, Hezonja to Barca if news is true, 7milion per season

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                • #68
                  Tavares staying is a great thing for all the teams that want Hezonja. I just don't see Hezonja in Barca at all. They don't have money in any sport department. Handball huge cuts, football only on free transfers and the, were doing the same last year in basketball except those non logical buyouts for Parra and Brizuela. I just don't see them giving 2.5M at least to Hezonja. Btw I am very interested now to see what C will Pao look for.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                    Tavares staying is a great thing for all the teams that want Hezonja. I just don't see Hezonja in Barca at all. They don't have money in any sport department. Handball huge cuts, football only on free transfers and the, were doing the same last year in basketball except those non logical buyouts for Parra and Brizuela. I just don't see them giving 2.5M at least to Hezonja. Btw I am very interested now to see what C will Pao look for.
                    I'm actually more excited by the prospect of getting Brown (if we get rid of Vildoza). Ofcourse this is all assuming that Brown will leave and that ppanish teams will drool over him (since he has a spanish passport). SO it could be all in my imagination I'm saying that because maybe now they won't have a big contract to offer to him. But maybe if they let Hezonja go then they will have money? No idea.

                    Hot Pao fan take (?): I don't care that much about Hezonja. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but his whole attitude towards Pao and the fans seems so fabricated to me that he rubs me the wrong way. I would much prefer to get an amazing PG like Brown and get an 6/10 SF rather than the other way around
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                      I'm actually more excited by the prospect of getting Brown (if we get rid of Vildoza). Ofcourse this is all assuming that Brown will leave and that ppanish teams will drool over him (since he has a spanish passport). SO it could be all in my imagination I'm saying that because maybe now they won't have a big contract to offer to him. But maybe if they let Hezonja go then they will have money? No idea.

                      Hot Pao fan take (?): I don't care that much about Hezonja. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but his whole attitude towards Pao and the fans seems so fabricated to me that he rubs me the wrong way. I would much prefer to get an amazing PG like Brown and get an 6/10 SF rather than the other way around
                      That is exactly what i am thinking. One game this season i remember there was timeout and he was on Madrid bench chanting PAO songs, that was so disrespectfull imo and fabricated and we all remember the way he left Panathinaikos. Also he doing the same thing with Partizan fans, he act like hardcore Partizan fan.. I just think he is attention queen (like Moneke who is doing this also with Zvezda and Partizan fans). But on other hand he is great player, probably the best on his position and he would be huge addition to PAO roster.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                        I'm actually more excited by the prospect of getting Brown (if we get rid of Vildoza). Ofcourse this is all assuming that Brown will leave and that ppanish teams will drool over him (since he has a spanish passport). SO it could be all in my imagination I'm saying that because maybe now they won't have a big contract to offer to him. But maybe if they let Hezonja go then they will have money? No idea.

                        Hot Pao fan take (?): I don't care that much about Hezonja. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but his whole attitude towards Pao and the fans seems so fabricated to me that he rubs me the wrong way. I would much prefer to get an amazing PG like Brown and get an 6/10 SF rather than the other way around
                        1. I would rather want Baldwin but he has contract but who knows what's going to happen with Maccabi next year. But I would still take Calathes with Hezonja rather than Lorenzo with let say Diallo(in my eyes 6/10 SF) because the way Papapetrou plays in Ataman's system + Grigonis that 6/10 SF wouldn't do anything and who knows would he play a lot at all.

                        2. I would love Hezonja because he can offer you a lot. He can be point forward, he can play basically 4 positions. I wouldn't have anything against Shields also. He would be incredible same as Hezonja also.

                        3. Well, he loved Pao since he was a kid. I saw interviews from him when he was still playing for Zagreb where he said he loves Pao and Diamantidis. About Partizan I fully agree. And even though basketball isn't maybe even a top 3 sports in Croatia a lot of people are kinda angry on him at least per comments in the newspapers because he is super contradictory. He had very nationalist statements in the past and now sudden love for Partizan...(he did say in the past he would want to play for Vujosevic because he makes players better though) It feels like he wants to be loved from some fan bases..That is so cringe especially when everyone in his hometown knows his way of thinking and that his family is like ultra nationalists, literally like Golden Dawn was in the Greece. So he won't go in Partizan definitely, I don't see him in Barca also at all. So it's Real, Pao or NBA.
                        Last edited by Edgar; 05-12-2024, 12:15 PM.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                          It feels like he wants to be loved from some fan bases..
                          Well, love demands sacrifices. Maybe you can't have a rowdy crowd to have your back *and* have 4 million per year You have to choose. I think that if he doesn't come this year this whole adoration thing will be finally put to sleep by Pao fans.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Edgar View Post


                            3. Well, he loved Pao since he was a kid. I saw interviews from him when he was still playing for Zagreb where he said he loves Pao and Diamantidis. About Partizan I fully agree. And even though basketball isn't maybe even a top 3 sports in Croatia a lot of people are kinda angry on him at least per comments in the newspapers because he is super contradictory. He had very nationalist statements in the past and now sudden love for Partizan...(he did say in the past he would want to play for Vujosevic because he makes players better though) It feels like he wants to be loved from some fan bases..That is so cringe especially when everyone in his hometown knows his way of thinking and that his family is like ultra nationalists, literally like Golden Dawn was in the Greece. So he won't go in Partizan definitely, I don't see him in Barca also at all. So it's Real, Pao or NBA.
                            True, and because of that thing he is always "well welcomed" by Zvezda fans. I think Partizan is nowdays conisdered as "Yugoslovenian" club (not pure Serbian) and because of that thing Hezonja dont have animosity towards them, also Partizan fans gave huge applaude to Dino Radja when he was in Belgrade Arena like he was their ex LEGEND.. (Radja had some bad statmentes about Serbians, Edgar i am sure u know about it :P) and Radja never played for Partizan. I am not saying that they should boo every Croatian player in Belgrade but if they are consider themselfs as Serbians they cant applaude to people who had very bad statements for Serbians. Krunoslav Simon was in Arena for some Zvezda game and he didnt got either booed or applauded, and i think he is really great guy and didnt have any nationalists outburst ever.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                              Well, love demands sacrifices. Maybe you can't have a rowdy crowd to have your back *and* have 4 million per year You have to choose. I think that if he doesn't come this year this whole adoration thing will be finally put to sleep by Pao fans.
                              Yep, I also believe that. If he signs somewhere else like let say Barca or stays in Real there will be no more cheers for him. Going in the NBA is different story. But knows what he will do. He is so weird guy. When I read his interviews I am literally asking myself is he normal hahaha it literally feels like he is doing that on purpose to sound weird and different...but I wouldn't be shocked if he goes to Lietkabelis at the end

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by coinho View Post

                                True, and because of that thing he is always "well welcomed" by Zvezda fans. I think Partizan is nowdays conisdered as "Yugoslovenian" club (not pure Serbian) and because of that thing Hezonja dont have animosity towards them, also Partizan fans gave huge applaude to Dino Radja when he was in Belgrade Arena like he was their ex LEGEND.. (Radja had some bad statmentes about Serbians, Edgar i am sure u know about it :P) and Radja never played for Partizan. I am not saying that they should boo every Croatian player in Belgrade but if they are consider themselfs as Serbians they cant applaude to people who had very bad statements for Serbians. Krunoslav Simon was in Arena for some Zvezda game and he didnt got either booed or applauded, and i think he is really great guy and didnt have any nationalists outburst ever.
                                I fully agree. My father is Croatian, mom Greek. I lived in Croatia till I was 15 with spending some time in Greece during the year. Let say 3 months. Later I moved to Greece. I don't even speak Greek good but I understand it and now I am back in Croatia. So I consider myself Croatian but my parents never learned me to have anything against Serbia in general. And I have more respect for Milan Gurovic that says clearly "I don't like Croatians, bye" than for Radja(I don't think I hate someone more than him in Croatia, he destroyed our basketball federation) or Hezonja or even Kukoc. Radja is big nationalist, same as Ivanisevic in tennis, but they sit on 2 chairs. Hezonja is doing the same. I don't like people like them. And you are fully right about view on Partizan and Zvezda. In my hometown they don't like both but Partizan is considered like Yugoslavian club and that's why there will be very rare ocasions where something bad will happen when Partizan plays in Croatia. Obradovic always gets standing ovations in Croatia, even in Zadar, and in Zadar they don't like anyone hahaha...and if Pesic let say arrives in Croatia with Zvezda no one would applaude him, they would probably say a lot of bad things. It is what it is unfortunately but that's why I don't like Hezonja as a person because he is very fake for me. You just can't say things like he did about Serbia and Serbian people in general and then few years after you have huge love for Partizan fans...that's huge bullshit. But also Partizan fans are very similar. You can't call him in the club, sending love to him... and then week after Radja and Kukoc were on the Partizan's game you put the banner where you call them the worst possible(Radja deserves 100000 times worse)... Hezonja's father is like far-right oriented and his whole family(he is also!) and suddenly he is thinking about coming to Partizan...loooool....he just wants to be nice guy in the eyes of Gate13, Grobari...sheeesh, who knows maybe from next season he will start flirting with Fener's fans

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