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  • #31
    Originally posted by Toruko View Post

    As long as the final four system stays there will always be a question mark. Remember 2012 the final four in Istanbul.
    Oh, ofc. But they might still be clear number 1 in the regular season.

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    • #32
      In Saras's place I would make just one replace and it cost 1.5 to 2 milions, That's Evans or Jones from Valencia. Considering that Zagars will be 1st pg(don;t know what will happen with Neto), I would keep Calathes as 2nd pg. Dorsey should stay as backup for Evans or Jones

      Zagars, Calathes
      Evans. Dorsey, Wilbeclown
      Biberovic, Pierre
      Davis, Sestina
      Papa, Motley, Sanli

      Pierre and Willbeclown have one more year contract, so I had to put them. This is F4 roster, though not the best , cos Pao, Real and Oly will probaly be even stronger next season

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      • #33
        Nunn renews with PANATHINAIKOS, probably for 2 years with nba clause for this summer. I guess it will be big with a date of expiration (for example 15th or 31st july) that nunn wont be able to get what he might want from the nba. I cant see any team giving him guaranteed contract with 6 or 7 millions per year, to tie his contract with PANATHINAIKOS, which will be somewhere between 3 and 3.5 million per year, without tax


        the rest are already known. hezonja will probably be the first transfer and we will look for a center to partner lessort (tavares, poirier some of the targets from what we have read, i would add daniel theiss fi he leaves the nba and he is exactly what ataman would have in his team and doesnt have this year, a shooting big. he imagined balcerowski as this guy, but it didnt work out). I have something else in mind though because DPG is a sadist and there is no way he wont make a move for vezenkov if he comes back. and that would be
        vezenkov-juancho
        lessort-mitoglou-antetokunbo

        Mitoglou is not a great shooter but he is perfect as a shooting center,check his games against loserbiakos where he mostly plays as a center and pulls fall or milutinov in the perimeter draining 3s and allowing us to get many offensive rebounds cause their center is 7 meters away from the basket


        apart from these 2 it will be either vildoza (doesnt look that good for him) or someone else. with sloukas,grant,nunn,grigonis as the backcourt, even if we dont get someone like micic, there are some good players to choose from. for example if valencia is kicked out of euroleague, chris jones would be a perfect fit.
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        • #34
          And nunn's renewal is "official' from DPG's story on instagram where he brought out the contracts
          Sasa Pukl for MVP

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          • #35
            Originally posted by saras View Post
            And nunn's renewal is "official' from DPG's story on instagram where he brought out the contracts
            With cat near the contract! What a guy! Hahahaha

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            • #36
              Great job for DPG. Nunn is worth more then 2.5 milions per season
              Regarding Larkin is payed almost 4 milions I think he deserves at least the same.
              But considering that Larkin is EL legend already and the best Efes;s player in history they maybe made a gift to him with one milion or two comparing what he delivers in this moment

              I am realy stuned with Nunn;s performance, it reminds me on Larkin's 2019/2020 season which is canceled by Euromafia

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              • #37
                Ok, so I was thinking a little bit already about next season. Panathinaikos made great run in the EL and this is already huge. Everyone in the squad has contract for the next year. Ataman loves Grigonis and he has 3 year contract so there is no way he will be 3rd option on SF or SG. Why is it Hezonja necessary then? Especially if we win everything I doubt Ataman would get rid of any player. So my only theory is that Vildoza will be out. But who will pick his 1.7M contract? No one! He will have to take a huge paycut...or maybe he will gamble and stay here and fight for the playing time like Grigonis did. Hezonja at 4 is not an option because Juancho stays 100%. DPG and fans love him. He is playing better and better and has huge contract and is a great lockeroom guy. Also idk what will happen with Grant. There were talks about contract till 2026. but nothing official and he plays not very good in the last couple of months but I am like 90% sure he will stay. So my only logic is that this is going to happen -

                PG - Sloukas, Grant, Moraitis(?)
                SG - Nunn, Grigonis
                SF - Hezonja, Papapetrou, Kalaitzakis
                PF - Mitoglou, Juancho
                C - Lessort, ?, Antetokoumpo

                Balcerowski will leave surely. Probably on the loan. So if Vildoza stays I doubt we will get anyone except center. There is no need. And Ataman as we know always plays with 8 players max. Idk, maybe as I look this squad one more PG/SG would be needed if some injury happens. Anyway, sweet problems!

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                • #38
                  I believe that we will look for maximum 3 players (sdna lackeys said 3-4). A SF, a C, and someone in place of Vildoza.
                  3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by paspalj View Post
                    I believe that we will look for maximum 3 players (sdna lackeys said 3-4). A SF, a C, and someone in place of Vildoza.
                    Then Papapetrou will play 2 mins per game. Never mind, he was always the guy for the big games at the end! If Vildoza is out I just hope they will not sign some player like Guy...I want good defender and playmaker. Calathes!

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                    • #40
                      Uros Plavsic new player of Zvezda. Very interesting move. He has incredible season in ABA league. Definitely 5 times better than Kuzmic or Gillespie.

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                      • #41
                        Ojeleye re-signed with Valencia....
                        he could find much better team. He would be perfect in Efes in my opinion...

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                        • #42
                          Would love super Mario coming back and Grigonis moving to the SG position, but I have a feeling he will try the NBA route. In that case, I'd try signing Mykhailiuk again, since I don't think you can find these characteristics in existing Euroleague players. If not, I can live with Papapetrou and Grigonis at the "3" position, depending on the Vildoza replacement.

                          As for the C position, I may be the only one, but I don't care for Tavares that much. He' s having a rather "meh" season (and with a multitude of gifted passing guards, like Real has) and I think he is about to have a huge dropoff in his performance due to age and style of play. Same with Vujcic when he came to Olympiacos. Plus, I can't see him as a traditional Ataman big. Ideally, I'd love Theiss coming back to Europe (that's the archetype of an Ataman big man) or even Poirier (quite an underestimated big). Balcerowski needs to go on a good loan, just like Mantzoukas. They have huge upside, and we need to help them achieve it.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by NESTOR View Post
                            Balcerowski needs to go on a good loan, just like Mantzoukas.
                            Balcerowski has already been a good contributor at a EC team. I'm not so sure what kind of loan would help.
                            3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019

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                            • #44
                              No euro team have 2 american g, usually the stars of an euro team, so unable to shoot from the arch and turnover machines, like Brown baldwin duo. The new season should start without them, first
                              Last edited by maccabeo; 05-08-2024, 04:54 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Grigonis son, yesterday. Even though he is young, he seems to understand the role of his father. Grigonis proved once again in this series, that he is nothing more than just a good spot shooter. And if things go bad in shooting, he is a total destruction both offensively and defensively. Kalaitzakis is more useful than him. Unfortunately they rushed to renew grigonis without any particular reason. We could have taken dorsey for example, who does pretty much the same things with grigonis and has proved in crucial games that he shows up, something grigonis never did. + a greek passport to get another foreigner. No wonder the cyclist is 30 years old and this is the first time he plays for a f4 team (in csska he was like the 5th guard) doing pretty much nothing.



                                My roster would be
                                Sloukas-Jones-Moraitis
                                Nunn-Dorsey (now grigonis)-Grant
                                Hezonja-Papapetrou
                                Juancho (he should be the starter and not mitoglou)- mitoglou - Mantzoukas
                                Lessort - Theiss - Antetokunbo


                                If they choose to have 7 foreigners instead of 8 to keep the same roster in greece, then i think we will go for calathes. With all those shooter around him+lessort who is probably the best pick n roll big guy after batiste, he should be fine for 15 minutes to end his career as he should be, playing for the euroleague favorites to try and get another title. he deserves it more than anyone else playing in the league right now
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