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  • Originally posted by Edgar View Post
    Vildoza per some sources done deal for Zvezda on 2 years contract. This might be the best thing I have heard through whole month! We will see will Panathinaikos try for Lorenzo immediately with that heavy buyout Maccabi is looking for or maybe wait summer... I would rather sign Miller-McIntyre than Lorenzo but that's just me
    It seems that Real Madrid is going to get Brown. I don’t know what the offer is but he’s Spanish passport is invaluable so I can see them going the extra mile for him.

    My thoughts on Porter are known here so I won’t tire you any further. All these people talking about second chances, not caring about his personal life etc, would have kicked him in an instant if it was some Pakistani immigrant that had similar behavior.
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    • PANATHINAIKOS will try to get micic. Mcintryre is the exact same case with thompson. Good in some lower tier teams with ball in their hands the entire time. This wont work in the best european team, PANATHINAIKOS.

      Lorenzo brown is good, but he is 34 years old. He has a spanish passport so he will end up in real anyway, they have a tradition of playing with old guards.

      Kevin porter junior would be a great alternative for micic. Im pretty sure he will look for any chance to go back to the nba, so his case will be open for a long time. Same goes for micic of course, so maybe rosters for the other teams will be closed and we can wait with patience. We have the best duo guards in euroleague already anyway. His behaviour out of court doesnt bother anyone apart from some feminists or some idiots that spend their entire day on dpg's instagram waiting for him to post something about any of his beliefs to start saying that is not proper for our president and stuff like that. Like we are gonna marry him. Porter junior can do whatever he wants outside of the cpurt as long as he is playing good in court. There are clauses to punish him if he does something that affects his in game performance
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      • Micic has a guaranteed contract for next year and a team option for 25 so it’s not up to him.
        3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019

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        • Mijatovic Definitely isn't capable to control Clyburn, or at least to make him as a part of the game plan. Though I am not sure that game plan even exists

          He is one man show and never mind if he is good or bad in that, but Efes depends on him too much. There is too much gambling on single player who takes mostly wild shoots and doesn't pass at all

          Regarding Mijatovic stayed, Efes must get rid of Clyburn at least. Contract is expired as I know

          Edit: Clyburn is type of player I like, his ball handling, shooting, penetrations.. But most on the world I hate selfish players and people. Basketball is team sport, so he should try maybe golf or chess
          Last edited by janketa; 05-19-2024, 01:19 PM.

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          • Originally posted by saras View Post
            PANATHINAIKOS will try to get micic. Mcintryre is the exact same case with thompson. Good in some lower tier teams with ball in their hands the entire time. This wont work in the best european team, PANATHINAIKOS.

            Lorenzo brown is good, but he is 34 years old. He has a spanish passport so he will end up in real anyway, they have a tradition of playing with old guards.

            Kevin porter junior would be a great alternative for micic. Im pretty sure he will look for any chance to go back to the nba, so his case will be open for a long time. Same goes for micic of course, so maybe rosters for the other teams will be closed and we can wait with patience. We have the best duo guards in euroleague already anyway. His behaviour out of court doesnt bother anyone apart from some feminists or some idiots that spend their entire day on dpg's instagram waiting for him to post something about any of his beliefs to start saying that is not proper for our president and stuff like that. Like we are gonna marry him. Porter junior can do whatever he wants outside of the cpurt as long as he is playing good in court. There are clauses to punish him if he does something that affects his in game performance
            Did you say the same for Grant? Codi is great floor general. Exactly what we need. Someone for 20 minutes per game to give everything. He is very strong and great defender and mutch better playmaker than Grant. Micic won't come. Y'all keep dreaming but that's not going to happen. Has contract in the NBA, plays great, franchise loves him and all reports from Charlotte are saying he will be backup for Lamelo.

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            • Originally posted by Edgar View Post

              Did you say the same for Grant? Codi is great floor general. Exactly what we need. Someone for 20 minutes per game to give everything. He is very strong and great defender and mutch better playmaker than Grant. Micic won't come. Y'all keep dreaming but that's not going to happen. Has contract in the NBA, plays great, franchise loves him and all reports from Charlotte are saying he will be backup for Lamelo.
              Grant is a player with 300 games in the nba and was transfered to be the last guard in the backcourt. Mcintyre is a random 30 years old player, not a youngster, playing hia entire career for some random eurocup teams. PANATHINAIKOS is looking for someone to replace vildoza who earned 1.7million per year, not a 400K player like mcintyre. Thats the contract grant got after being by far the best player in eurocup.


              PANATHINAIKOS needs a top level guard, that can be either micic or another one. NBA is where we should look. Not another demarcus nelson
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              • Originally posted by saras View Post

                Grant is a player with 300 games in the nba and was transfered to be the last guard in the backcourt. Mcintyre is a random 30 years old player, not a youngster, playing hia entire career for some random eurocup teams. PANATHINAIKOS is looking for someone to replace vildoza who earned 1.7million per year, not a 400K player like mcintyre. Thats the contract grant got after being by far the best player in eurocup.


                PANATHINAIKOS needs a top level guard, that can be either micic or another one. NBA is where we should look. Not another demarcus nelson
                Yeah, obviously you watched Codi only against Pao this season and buzzer beater against Oly. Guy averages 10, 7, 5 by being one the best defenders and always defending best players in the other team. If he didn't play with Howard that takes 20 shots per game he would average 15 points at least. Lebron will come before Micic, at least he is free agent while Micic isn't! Some of Panathinaikos fans act like this is NBA2K. If Hezonja comes why would you need more scoring. Even if some great guard comes then usage of Sloukas and Nunn will decrease a lot! You are just destroying great team chemistry. Ataman never did that and certainly won't do it now. This team needs instead Vildoza one good lockeroom guy that will do everything that team needs in 15-20 minutes.

                And btw this what you said about Grant and McInytre is just funny. By that logic we shouldn't even sign Lessort because he never played in the NBA and came from the team that was one place above than Baskonia was this year. We should have sign Kaminsky that has a lot of seasons in the NBA! Stupid logic.

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                • Mcintyre didnt average 15 points because he averages 29% at 3pt line and below 70% at free throws. And thats not just a season, its his standard cause his shooting stats are the same every season. He is also a turnover machine, proven to be unable to play in the next level otherwise he would have done that already by the age of 30.

                  Lessort has played multiple seasons in euroleague and was voted in the best 5 last season and should have been in the playoffs, partizan was better in all games against real, baskonia lost 3-0, 2 games easily as well. You are the only one seeing similarities between partizan and baskonia who finished 9th.


                  PANATHINAIKOS needs a top guard,because sloukas is getting older anyway and misses many games, because vildoza was supposed to be starting guard and earns 1.7 million and he is the one to be replaced and not moraitis, because grigonis proved that he is just bad when it matters and because ataman depends mostly on guards, so the more the better. The team chemistry wont be destroyed because the team gets better players, 2 players will be replaced after all, vildoza and balcerowski and one will be added as better of the one used there (hezonja istead of thrashonis).

                  Btw i think you are one of those saying that the team cant go far with 7 players. Exact opposite of what you are writing above.

                  Hopefully ataman does what he did in all of his previous teams, adding many guards, he had 3 top guards every season (micic,larkin,beaubouis) plus simon and others to help. And he will make that again
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                  • Seems that I was right all the time about CZ and one of the best backcourts. They were destroyed with injuries during season, but at the end they showed real strenght, Partizan payed price, team that almost eliminated Real last season.

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                    • Obina
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                      I am huge fan of basketball but Euroleague is an amateur organisation and joke of competition.

                      Montenegrin football champion has guaranteed 940 000 € from UEFA just because they will play 1st round of qualification.

                      Let's not pretend that we have some elite basketball competition in Europe.

                      And Serbia is a giant in baskteball, ofc we deserve to have at least one club in best european competition.

                    • paspalj
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                      Originally posted by Obina View Post
                      Montenegrin football champion has guaranteed 940 000 € from UEFA just because they will play 1st round of qualification.
                      Ok but this is an unfair comparison. Euroleague is a joke, and could do much much better but comparing it to football is not a fair comparison.

                    • Obina
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                      OK but I think its even behind handball considering money and organisation.

                  • Originally posted by saras View Post
                    Mcintyre didnt average 15 points because he averages 29% at 3pt line and below 70% at free throws. And thats not just a season, its his standard cause his shooting stats are the same every season. He is also a turnover machine, proven to be unable to play in the next level otherwise he would have done that already by the age of 30.

                    Lessort has played multiple seasons in euroleague and was voted in the best 5 last season and should have been in the playoffs, partizan was better in all games against real, baskonia lost 3-0, 2 games easily as well. You are the only one seeing similarities between partizan and baskonia who finished 9th.


                    PANATHINAIKOS needs a top guard,because sloukas is getting older anyway and misses many games, because vildoza was supposed to be starting guard and earns 1.7 million and he is the one to be replaced and not moraitis, because grigonis proved that he is just bad when it matters and because ataman depends mostly on guards, so the more the better. The team chemistry wont be destroyed because the team gets better players, 2 players will be replaced after all, vildoza and balcerowski and one will be added as better of the one used there (hezonja istead of thrashonis).

                    Btw i think you are one of those saying that the team cant go far with 7 players. Exact opposite of what you are writing above.

                    Hopefully ataman does what he did in all of his previous teams, adding many guards, he had 3 top guards every season (micic,larkin,beaubouis) plus simon and others to help. And he will make that again
                    Yeah, I literally never said this. I have always been fan of short rotation when it matters the most instead of the style most Spanish coaches are doing that 10 players play 20 mins. Ok, we will see everything in the summer...

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                    • if true, brown out and feliz in ,would be great steps to start the market. waiting for baldwin out for another big step

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                      • Zeljko is by far the best coach in El history and I think he is still the best. But there is a big problem with roster making which started in Fener and now in Partizan. Hr didn't make such mistakes in Pao as I know.. There was always one or even two strong leaders in the team.

                        After Bogdan left we lost that and he wasn't capable to find replace, or at least Guduric wasn't that guy
                        In Partizan also he doesn't have such player like he had in Pao, he tried with Panter but it's obvious that Exum was real leader not him

                        The most important part is that his students, Itoudis and Saras copy his tactics and make the same mistakes, Itoudis in Fener and Saras in Barca. I won't be harsh on Saras cos we must wait his first transfer market in Fener, Until then he plays with Itoudis's roster, though he had opportunity to bring at least one player in the backcourt, which is the weakest part of the roster. But never mind, he made F4 and deserved some respect. But we definitely need big changes in guard rotation. I would keep only Calathes as backup pg. But in reality, we will have to keep players under Itoudis's contracts, so it will be just one player probably. It's very important which player will come.

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                        • Originally posted by janketa View Post
                          Seems that I was right all the time about CZ and one of the best backcourts. They were destroyed with injuries during season, but at the end they showed real strenght, Partizan payed price, team that almost eliminated Real last season.
                          Partizan have better induvidual players but Zvezda play as a team and have much better coach right now.
                          Sfero has 6 wins in a row against Zeljko.

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                          • Originally posted by coinho View Post

                            Partizan have better induvidual players but Zvezda play as a team and have much better coach right now.
                            Sfero has 6 wins in a row against Zeljko.
                            Maybe some frontcourt guys are better, but guards are not. Teo, Nedovic and Yago could teach them a lesson about basketball basics, especially Teo

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                            • Originally posted by janketa View Post

                              Maybe some frontcourt guys are better, but guards are not. Teo, Nedovic and Yago could teach them a lesson about basketball basics, especially Teo
                              Teodosic is stil one of the biggest leaders in EL, even with 37 y.o, when he enters court team always get big energy and he lead our game.
                              This finals from Yago was so suprised for me, i knew that he got talent but he was maybe our best players at finals (he got finals MVP) and he got big balls like Nedovic dont in my opinioin.
                              Yago always go on hard lay-ups and attack rim hard even if they are 2.15 centers there, Nedovic always when see big in a paint, go for some stupid flouters even if he got adventage, idk why he dont attack the rim, 3 choice are there for him : 1. 2 points, 2. 2 free throw shots 3. 2+1 .... He defenetly got talent but he has some problem.

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