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  • #16
    Originally posted by Edgar
    Honestly Can should lose his job. Playing Clyburn almost whole 3 quarters while he has 3 pts on 0/2 from the fg. Also being destroyed by PJ Dozier(!!!) and Nunnally. Forcing Jones so much who can't catch 3 alley oops in a row and is actually really bad defender.
    He is desperately trying to win him. Understandable.

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    • #17
      Honestly Can should lose his job. Playing Clyburn almost whole 3 quarters while he has 3 pts on 0/2 from the fg. Also being destroyed by PJ Dozier(!!!) and Nunnally. Forcing Jones so much who can't catch 3 alley oops in a row and is actually really bad defender.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Toruko View Post

        He is desperately trying to win him. Understandable.
        It might be if you don't have roster who should be in the playoffs. Also it's his 1st season as a coach and he doesn't have any credit. It's a big risk and until now very low reward.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Edgar View Post

          It might be if you don't have roster who should be in the playoffs. Also it's his 1st season as a coach and he doesn't have any credit. It's a big risk and until now very low reward.
          Efes gave him too few pieces and the whole player management was a big problem. I mean if you give Tibor Pleiss 0,9 Millions for 2 years and you have Jones and Zizic beside him with two pf with no EL experience there isnt much to do. What I am trying to say is that nobody seems to expect anything from him. Not with this roster.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Edgar View Post
            Honestly Can should lose his job. Playing Clyburn almost whole 3 quarters while he has 3 pts on 0/2 from the fg. Also being destroyed by PJ Dozier(!!!) and Nunnally. Forcing Jones so much who can't catch 3 alley oops in a row and is actually really bad defender.
            Clyburn is trying hard to prove you wrong

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Toruko View Post

              Efes gave him too few pieces and the whole player management was a big problem. I mean if you give Tibor Pleiss 0,9 Millions for 2 years and you have Jones and Zizic beside him with two pf with no EL experience there isnt much to do. What I am trying to say is that nobody seems to expect anything from him. Not with this roster.
              But still when you have Larkin-Thompson with Beaubois and Bryant coming from the bench you should play much better. They are not new pieces. He is forcing too much with rotations and his love for Jones is strange for real...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tonia View Post

                Clyburn is trying hard to prove you wrong
                Yeah, he started to play good immediately as I wrote that
                But still he is the only reason why Efes is not on +7, 8

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Edgar View Post

                  But still when you have Larkin-Thompson with Beaubois and Bryant coming from the bench you should play much better. They are not new pieces. He is forcing too much with rotations and his love for Jones is strang for real...
                  Basically, you are right but I still think that he deserves more credit. He started with TT Ankara also very bad and was able to create good chemistry at last and we need some more Turkish coaches beside Ataman.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                    Basically, you are right but I still think that he deserves more credit. He started with TT Ankara also very bad and was able to create good chemistry at last and we need some more Turkish coaches beside Ataman.
                    No, I agree with you. As a new coach he needs a credit but also some things he does seems like he is not the EL level. And if front office and the owner of Efes thinks that this team should be in the playoff convo and fight for F4(imo they should) then maybe Can isn't the one. But as you said, let him work, time will tell.

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                    • #25
                      Also, why no one gave chance to Sarica in the recent times?

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                      • #26
                        Was it no foul to Ponitka???

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                          Also, why no one gave chance to Sarica in the recent times?
                          Sarica knows one style of game and he needs certain player to do so. He is not able to create a system based on the talent on the roster and he is not a good offensive coach. His offense stuck too often. Very overrated if you ask me. I would rather give Atamans old assistant coach Sekizkok a chance rather than Sarica.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                            Sarica knows one style of game and he needs certain player to do so. He is not able to create a system based on the talent on the roster and he is not a good offensive coach. His offense stuck too often. Very overrated if you ask me. I would rather give Atamans old assistant coach Sekizk
                            Yeah he does really god job at Dacka. I mean, he has Timma in his team and they play good. That says all
                            I like Sarica. Maybe he should have more success in the BCL...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Edgar View Post

                              Yeah he does really god job at Dacka. I mean, he has Timma in his team and they play good. That says all
                              I like Sarica. Maybe he should have more success in the BCL...
                              Ataman for example is a great offensive coach. His offense flows all the time and his roster building is great but when it comes to give a reaction within a game he is too weak imo.

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                              • #30
                                What a monster this 180cm guy is(sorry Bob)
                                Alone against one of the best teams in EL. We all know that Partizan was one step from the title last season...
                                Efes has definitely the worst frontcourt in EL , but one of the best backcourts(together with CZ). Jones succeeded to be even bigger clown then Zizic

                                Efes needs new center asap

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