EL2023/24 - Gameday 10

[Levenspiel]

Thread for this week's games.

[tonia]

I'm really impressed with Grant's improvement.
Balcerowski is still a little out of space

[tonia]

Asvel - Bayern game started first and as it seems will be the last to end..

[Edgar]

I think every PAO fan would accept 6-4 after 10 games. When you know we played first 3 games without Mitoglou, Juancho injured, Sloukas and Vildoza also missed couple of games, completely new team and 2 defeats in the overtime where we should win both games in the regular time...all in all I am satisfied. Improvement is very visible, Nunn still struggles with his 3pt shooting but his defense is actually pretty good and you can see he tries a lot. It will be okay. Vildoza sometimes plays like a crackhead but it is what it is Grant by far biggest positive surprise and "Lithuanian cyclist" also

[Levenspiel]

Euroleague must urgently fix that retarded FTs after offensive foul rule. It's beyond stupid.

PS. I am talking about the last offense in the 2nd OT of Asvel-Bayern game. Asvel's chance to win was stolen tonight.

[tonia]

Euroleague must urgently fix that retarded FTs after offensive foul rule. It's beyond stupid.

PS. I am talking about the last offense in the 2nd OT of Asvel-Bayern game. I think Asvel's win was stolen.

If there were no FTs, we would have OT3, but still Asvel would have a shot.
I wonder If there has been any OT3 played in EL

[EverGreen]

Welcome to Heaven and Hell.

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[Edgar]

Is it possible to see Itoudis being fired? 4 defeats in a row, next 3 games against Real in Istanbul and then Barca and Baskonia in Spain. I mean, he has problems with the injuries but still these players were his choice.

[Toruko]

Is it possible to see Itoudis being fired? 4 defeats in a row, next 3 games against Real in Istanbul and then Barca and Baskonia in Spain. I mean, he has problems with the injuries but still these players were his choice.

Most unlikely. They would have to pay him for the season and to get a new coach wont be cheap either. There are no player and no coaches on the market but the team looks horrible, especially Papagiannis is a pain in the ass.

[Edgar]

Most unlikely. They would have to pay him for the season and to get a new coach wont be cheap either. There are no player and no coaches on the market but the team looks horrible, especially Papagiannis is a pain in the ass.

That's what I thought. I never liked Itoudis. He was always very arrogant in my eyes and tries so hard to behave and copy Obradovic. And if there is 1 Panathinaikos fan who really wanted Papagiannis to leave that was me
Who knows, maybe next year Can will return to Fener's bench

[Toruko]

That's what I thought. I never liked Itoudis. He was always very arrogant in my eyes and tries so hard to behave and copy Obradovic. And if there is 1 Panathinaikos fan who really wanted Papagiannis to leave that was me
Who knows, maybe next year Can will return to Fener's bench

I would bet on Itoudis leaving at the end of the season. The entire plan turned out to be a disaster. FB has 5 bigs and cant get rebounds. Motley below average rebounder, Papagiannis horrible rebounder, Sanli horrible rebounder. There is no play maker who can feed the bigs properly. Papagiannis is a useless piece without Calathes. Your entire offense depends on the shooting performance of Wilbekin and the post creation of Hayes. This is insane.

The whole fucking game plan is based on targeting missmatches and they cant even make an easy layup. 1,5 Millions for Papagiannis is insane.

[Edgar]

I would bet on Itoudis leaving at the end of the season. The entire plan turned out to be a disaster. FB has 5 bigs and cant get rebounds. Motley below average rebounder, Papagiannis horrible rebounder, Sanli horrible rebounder. There is no play maker who can feed the bigs properly. Papagiannis is a useless piece without Calathes. Your entire offense depends on the shooting performance of Wilbekin and the post creation of Hayes. This is insane.

The whole fucking game plan is based on targeting missmatches and they cant even make an easy layup. 1,5 Millions for Papagiannis is insane.

I couldn't agree more. Their whole summer was messy. Last year they had the same problems and they didn't do absolutely anything to fix it.
Papagiannis is the biggest overpay in the last couple of years. Itoudis kept Dorsey just because of his ego to not let him go in PAO but can't stand him and doesn't play him and he had chance to get nice buyout.

[Levenspiel]

If there were no FTs, we would have OT3, but still Asvel would have a shot.
I wonder If there has been any OT3 played in EL

Yeah, true. It is rare for me to get so incensed about a neutral game. I typed too fast.

This rule is new, they called the same in Monaco-Efes game. I wonder which genius invented it.

[Levenspiel]

Is it possible to see Itoudis being fired? 4 defeats in a row, next 3 games against Real in Istanbul and then Barca and Baskonia in Spain. I mean, he has problems with the injuries but still these players were his choice.

Except for the first of half last season, his entire tenure so far has been disappointing. I don't think the injuries are a valid excuse. But, I have a feeling, they will bounce back, even if there is no easy way to fix the issue with the guards.

[Edgar]

Clyburn is so washed...it's crazy how Efes might have the best starting duo in the backcourt in the EL and also the worst rotation od big guys. Literally everyone is mediocre. Zizic didn't play good since Darussafaka, Willis has only 3 pt shot, Jones might be the worst p&r defender of all time, Osmani is for Gaziantep...and on all of that you have Can who plays lineups with Yilmaz-Zizic-Willis...taking off Thompson 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter when he plays great...