EL2022/23 - The Final Four (Kaunas)

[Killer Bob]

If we're going to diminish Calathes based on his shooting then we can hardly put Papaloukas on a pedestal. Papaloukas declined super quickly after 30.
Spanoulis wasn't even Oly's best player in either the 2012 or 2013 F4's. He found a great situation in Oly where he got all the credit when they won and none of the blame when they didn't.

You don't want to die on that hill.

Before you're criticising Spanoulis in F4, you should look what Sloukas has done.

[Killer Bob]

Saras came prepared for zone D. But you still has to hit those open shots. I don't know, if they can continue like that. If they can, than it's over.

[Straight forward]

Jokubaitis lost couple of teeth, but gave a good sparkle from the bench IMO, Saras made mistake throwing in Nnaji, he's not ready yet, too many bad things offensively. Defensively he's the beast though. Tavares was huge factor at the start, but Real struggles to shoot so far. Mirotic traditionally choking, but hopefully will wake up. Satoranski providing offensively is huge plus, cause he's the guy who can easily become bleak offensively. Abrines and Kuric threes made a difference so far. The game is completely open, can go either way.

[Straight forward]

LOL, Jasikevicius always was saying that players have to plough the floor, Jokubaitis finally took it literally That's so spot on by some guy:

https://twitter.com/skweektv/status/1659631363853807618

[ronmercer80]

I am glad S.Obradovic agrees completely with me (lol).

Bad defence due to lack of aggressiveness was the initial problem in the second half, successively this caused also the problems on offence with Oly that acquired courage defending harder and harder.

[Killer Bob]

Now we know why Mirotic is 0:6 in F4.

[Killer Bob]

I am glad S.Obradovic agrees completely with me (lol).

Bad defence due to lack of aggressiveness was the initial problem in the second half, successively this caused also the problems on offence with Oly that acquired courage defending harder and harder.

And why he didn't call time out immediately and didn't even call the second?

[Jazz]

You don't want to die on that hill.

Before you're criticising Spanoulis in F4, you should look what Sloukas has done.

In 2012 it was the young players like Sloukas that brought Oly back from the brink.
In 2013 Spanoulis got outperformed in the final by Acie Law, the exact type of American player you claim no-one wants to watch.

[Straight forward]

Mirotic ready to chuck up Barca out.

[Killer Bob]

In 2012 it was the young players like Sloukas that brought Oly back from the brink.
In 2013 Spanoulis got outperformed in the final by Acie Law, the exact type of American player you claim no-one wants to watch.

You don't understand, there was always those kind of Americans, but we have stars too. Now we have only role players.

Look what is going up today, 2 former MVP's. 2 points together, total joke.

[Killer Bob]

Mirotic ready to chuck up Barca out.

Fuck, Saras benched him.

[Killer Bob]

Hezonja with pretty stupid shots too.

[Straight forward]

That's final 4 game. Not the trash we seen earlier.

[Jazz]

You don't understand, there was always those kind of Americans, but we have stars too. Now we have only role players.

You're saying Spanoulis was a star when he was actually being outperformed by exactly those Americans and by role players on those big occasions.

Sloukas doesn't have the ego where he demands to be the leader at the expense of the team.

[Serbian_Layup]

If we're going to diminish Calathes based on his shooting then we can hardly put Papaloukas on a pedestal. Papaloukas declined super quickly after 30.
Spanoulis wasn't even Oly's best player in either the 2012 or 2013 F4's. He found a great situation in Oly where he got all the credit when they won and none of the blame when they didn't.

Agree with this. Spanoulis was chucking quite a bit, it was Oly's rock solid team defense in those years that allowed Spanoulis to find his rhythm in games that he was underwhelming. Nothing to take away from him though, a great competitor. Calathes can't shoot, but when it comes to playmaking he is better than Spanoulis, while Diamantidis and Papaloukas are better than both.

Killer Bob

Saying that Teo is not near the top is just trolling.