EL2022/23 - The Final Four (Kaunas)

[ronmercer80]

27-2 rally

Game over, I think I won't watch the last quarter.

[Killer Bob]

Nothing helps with this kind of defense by Oly.

Sure it helps, but you can't play 1/1, iso offense. Where was pick&roll, where was inside game...? And coach has time outs exactly for stopping those big runs.

[Toruko]

Not even I could predict this outcome.

[Jazz]

I'm not sure about that. But however you look, Europe is just developing league for Nba.

Well if you're not sure then what sport do you think possibly rivals basketball for second place?
Let's keep in mind also that people also tend to overstate football's popularity globally. It's historically a non factor in major countries like the US and India. There's also a debate to be had about basketball being more popular than football in China.
We've also been hearing about the rise of the G League for about a decade now but it has never happened. That league is more of a threat to college teams than those in Europe.

[Jazz]

James, Okobo, Lloyd have a lot of flaws, but they're ballers. Oly best players are by definition role players.

I still believe Oly can make comeback, because James&co. are proven nuts.

Sloukas is one of the finest European guards of the past 20 years.

[Serbian_Layup]

Sure it helps, but you can't play 1/1, iso offense. Where was pick&roll, where was inside game...?

Monaco doesn't have inside game. They are made for ISO ball and they have been playing like that all season. Especially when they need to score. Their whole perimeter is ISO oriented. Aside from few post ups for Motiejunas or lob passes to Hall, they don't have any inside game.

[basketfann]

27-2 why Mike James is not in the NBA

[Killer Bob]

Sloukas is one of the finest European guards of the past 20 years.

You can't be serious.

[ronmercer80]

Monaco doesn't have inside game. They are made for ISO ball and they have been playing like that all season. Especially when they need to score. Their whole perimeter is ISO oriented. Aside from few post ups for Motiejunas or lob passes to Hall, they don't have any inside game.

Yes but I wouldn't emphasize only that. It could seem that the main problem is Monaco's attack, in fact what I see is that they stopped defending.

Oly 4/12 2pts in the first half, they started with 13/15 in the second one! Assists 10-1 (!!) in the third quarter.

[Jazz]

You can't be serious.

Generally he's not a flashy player but there's not many who have consistently made their teams better like he has. Look at the coaches he's worked with and the trophies he has won. No-one can doubt his leadership after this season.

[basketfann]

Yes but I wouldn't emphasize only that. It could seem that the main problem is Monaco's attack, in fact what I see is that they stopped defending.

Oly 4/12 2pts in the first half, they started with 13/15 in the second one! Assists 10-1 (!!) in the third quarter.

15-25 are regular points for Euroleague team! If you score 2 points 1/4 than game is lost in every pro level.

[Killer Bob]

Yes but I wouldn't emphasize only that. It could seem that the main problem is Monaco's attack, in fact what I see is that they stopped defending.

Oly 4/12 2pts in the first half, they started with 13/15 in the second one! Assists 10-1 (!!) in the third quarter.

Oly started to play as much as possible inside in second half. Smart coach would take time out after 1 minute and change his D. We all know that Obradovic is not smart.

[Serbian_Layup]

Yes but I wouldn't emphasize only that. It could seem that the main problem is Monaco's attack, in fact what I see is that they stopped defending.

Oly 4/12 2pts in the first half, they started with 13/15 in the second one! Assists 10-1 (!!) in the third quarter.

Right. Numerous backdoor cuts by Papanikolaou and Vezenkov, too easy like they haven't done scouting.

[Straight forward]

As expected Monaco is trash. Not exactly final 4 material.

[Toruko]

Generally he's not a flashy player but there's not many who have consistently made their teams better like he has. Look at the coaches he's worked with and the trophies he has won. No-one can doubt his leadership after this season.

He was 30 years old when he finally turned to leading player. I wouldnt count him as an all time guard but he is the last good Greek guard for sure considering how Lountzis has played.