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  • Originally posted by tonia View Post

    I'm greek and I support our NT and all greek teams except for Olympiakos. Quite shocking, right?
    I add (perhaps not everyone knows that) that for Barcelona is severely PROHIBITED to wear white jerseys, this regards any sport activity of course, soccer, basket and the rest. For obvious reasons.

    Their rivalry is the strongest in the world.

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    • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

      I'm aware of sports rivalries, thank you

      I'm a Panathinaikos fan but I don't get any enjoyment from Oly losing. Especially when my team is in the shitter. I don't gain enjoyment from the misery of others. I prefer to be happy for my own team than using a proxy.
      Congrats but you know you don't belong to the majority.

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      • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

        I'm aware of sports rivalries, thank you

        I'm a Panathinaikos fan but I don't get any enjoyment from Oly losing. Especially when my team is in the shitter. I don't gain enjoyment from the misery of others. I prefer to be happy for my own team than using a proxy.
        Congrats men you have amazing way of thinking

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        • To be fair, we should underline that Pana's owner just said that Oly deserved the title more than Real.

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          • Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post
            To be fair, we should underline that Pana's owner just said that Oly deserved the title more than Real.
            I hope she peaks honestly but with him, it feels like it's easy to be gracious when your opponent has lost.
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            • Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View Post

              Yes, probably, but stats don't show everything, so i stay with my opinion.
              Hey, I thought the same right after the game, but also knew they would give it to Tavares.

              Sergio was the reason (in the basketball context, so not Llull) they made it to the F4, and won both games in Kaunas. He brought the title. I guess he doesn't care about the award.
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              • Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post

                I add (perhaps not everyone knows that) that for Barcelona is severely PROHIBITED to wear white jerseys, this regards any sport activity of course, soccer, basket and the rest. For obvious reasons.

                Their rivalry is the strongest in the world.
                But the funny thing is that on both the Real and Barca rosters are more than one player who played for the other team in the past.

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                • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post
                  Walkup 0/5
                  Sloukas 1/5
                  Vezenkov 2/8
                  Mckissic missing all 3 wide open threes in the 4th
                  Game over. They just needed one more. Someone had to join Canaan. And the whole 4th quarter Real was letting wide open shots for either Walkup or Mckissic. Nothing to take away from Mckissic though, I thought he was very good aside from those missed threes in the fourth.
                  Walkup was put into Calathes's shoes tonight, and the result was the same. On McKissic, I am not sure if it was intentional or bad defense. Sloukas and Vezenkov though could be heroes now if either of them made one more. Sometimes it just doesn't fall.
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                  • Originally posted by zubitos View Post
                    ooo man is so difficult. Whatever we say, we gave it to them. 1 minute, 4 points up and possession....We gave it to them.

                    But at the end......this is sports.​
                    Tough loss mate. Great season, just a tiny bit short of glory.

                    If it's any consolation, I think you won the prediction game this year, with 4/4 correct guesses for the Final Four. (so, Bob wasn't the only one who believed in Real)
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                    • Originally posted by Killer Bob
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                      But this time Chacho,made the difference, big player, born winner, just like Larkin did for Efes

                      BTW, Real with Chacho could have won the title last season too, in that awful final(the worst in histor
                      Last edited by Levenspiel; 05-22-2023, 07:23 AM.

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                      • Interesting that the same situation was in 3rd game when Guduric made his shoot a little bit early. Llull made exactly the same, even gameclock was the same, even Sloukas was one who took shoot after that, but seems that Oly used their amount of luck against Fener.

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                        • Originally posted by janketa View Post
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                          But this time Chacho,made the difference, big player, born winner, just like Larkin did for Efes

                          BTW, Real with Chacho could have won the title last season too, in that awful final(the worst in history)
                          seems Real fans have forgot back 11-10 years they were the loosers,final 4 2013 ,final4 2014 before they win in 2015.The thing i wanna say is that if you are in the final 4 you have to loose 1-2 times before you make it.Back then Llull Chacho were loosers and Spanoulis and Rice the winners.There is no need to underestimate nobody.This is Basket,some times luck smile at you some times not.
                          Last edited by Levenspiel; 05-22-2023, 07:25 AM.

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                          • Because I read weird things I want to explain some things.
                            Olympiacos with the arrival of Barzokas built a team with a medium budget and worked with them, adding new pieces every year. The result is that last year this team played beautiful basketball and while everyone thought they would fight for their entry into the PO, they managed to finish 2nd in the regular season and qualify for F4 losing at the last second their participation in the final.
                            So the team exceeded expectations last year as well.

                            So this year everyone thought it would be between 4th and 7th place.
                            Αgain, however, the team played dominantly throughout the year and managed to lose the trophy at the last second of the championship game.
                            So the team exceeded expectations this year as well if we look at it objectively.
                            nevertheless, I believe that we could have succeeded this year and last year, but when it comes to f4 everything can happen and it is also a matter of the day.

                            If I look at it completely objectively, the team is there at the highest level, the team fights every year for the trophy even though it does not start from the same starting point as the rest of the competitors in terms of budget. For this reason alone we should be proud of the team and this group of players. It really hurts to basically gift the trophy to the opponent, but we've experienced it from the other side as well.....so it's all good. It was meant to be like this.

                            I want to believe that the team will stay with the same core as much as possible and continue to fight at this level next year.

                            Proud of you guys.......in Bartzokas we trust.

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                            • Originally posted by papaluk4mvp View Post

                              seems Real fans have forgot back 11-10 years they were the loosers,final 4 2013 ,final4 2014 before they win in 2015.The thing i wanna say is that if you are in the final 4 you have to loose 1-2 times before you make it.Back then Llull Chacho were loosers and Spanoulis and Rice the winners.There is no need to underestimate nobody.This is Basket,some times luck smile at you some times not.
                              It's not only the win, but how they won it. 0:2 down against Partizan, missing important players in F4 and beating arch rivals in semis and then grandpapas having revenge in the final after 10 years.

                              It's very difficult to say someone is a loser, if he has won 11 trophies.
                              previously known as Beno

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                              • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                                It's not only the win, but how they won it. 0:2 down against Partizan, missing important players in F4 and beating arch rivals in semis and then grandpapas having revenge in the final after 10 years.

                                It's very difficult to say someone is a loser, if he has won 11 trophies.
                                i aggre with you 100%,but that is what they were saying back then after loosing the second final against Maccabi for LLull Sergio and Rudy.Like now they are doing for Oly players,Veze is characterized as a roll mediocre player and we all saw his great performance yesterday,or Sloukas is a mediocre guard with 9 finals and 3 titles and many many clutch winning shots,For God s shake he is doing something right to be there almost every year,there is no luck on it. We have the tendancy to judge people very hursh depending on a lucky winning shot or an unlucky lost one.
                                Last year again Real lost a final and again everyone was too old or too little to wear Real jersay. This year again they are heroes.This is Basketball

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