EL2022/23 - The Final Four (Kaunas)

[paspalj]

How I'm not? What they have as main players?

I don't disagree with the statement that they are role players. I disagree that they couldn't win. What I mean is that Oly was a couple of different decisions away from getting the W. It wouldn't be a surprise if they won. It was the expected outcome.

[Jazz]

I don't think you are being fair here.

He's just relieved that Llull has finally caught up with Sloukas in terms of Euroleague titles won.

[Serbian_Layup]

You say the cheapest, I say it's up there with Oly 2012 in terms of balls.

I say cheapest because Real's defense was trash basically. A lot of good looks for Oly tonight. Most of their shots were wide open shots, those that they hit and those that they didn't. Real was just relying that they will miss, nothing else. But horrible defensive rebounding by Oly kept them close thoroughout the game. And of course, they used the chance they got.

[Shawshank]

Scariolo is playing box and one defense, a combined one on one defense and zone defense. Confusing if you are not expecting it.

That's how he beat Serbia in 2019. You cut off the best player/shooter on the perimeter (Bogdanović in that case) and put zone defense on the rest of the floor.

They beat LTU 2022 in 1/8 putting box in one on best ltu guard Grigonis too.

Lithuania were making those open jumpers for like 34minutes and leading in score for like first 37min,but at the end ltu nt also started missing those jumpers in that always changing zone and lost after overtime

Similiar to todays Olympiakos lose. Leading in score like 95% of playing time.That style simply works for spanish basketball school.

[Serbian_Layup]

Walkup 0/5
Sloukas 1/5
Vezenkov 2/8
Mckissic missing all 3 wide open threes in the 4th
Game over. They just needed one more. Someone had to join Canaan. And the whole 4th quarter Real was letting wide open shots for either Walkup or Mckissic. Nothing to take away from Mckissic though, I thought he was very good aside from those missed threes in the fourth.

[Dreamcatcher]

What is more incredible?

1) Real's path to a final being completely outplayed by Partizan after first 2 games in Madrid and the half of 5th game?
2) Llull's game winner after he hadn't done anything in the game before that shot. And how he got the ball at all instead of Rodriguez who was so good?
3) Not giving MVP to Rodriguez.
4) (as a bonus) Real's oldies in general.

[paspalj]

Walkup 0/5
Sloukas 1/5
Vezenkov 2/8
Mckissic missing all 3 wide open threes in the 4th
Game over. They just needed one more. Someone had to join Canaan. And the whole 4th quarter Real was letting wide open shots for either Walkup or Mckissic. Nothing to take away from Mckissic though, I thought he was very good aside from those missed threes in the fourth.

If Oly had just allowed a 2 pointer instead of an open 3 at +4 it would be a whole different ball game now. That's besides them not making a single simple play in the last minute. Also, the last shot could have been much better.

[paspalj]

What is more incredible?

1) Real's path to a final being completely outplayed by Partizan after first 2 games in Madrid and the half of 5th game?
2) Llull's game winner after he hadn't done anything in the game before that shot. And how he got the ball at all instead of Rodriguez who was so good?
3) Not giving MVP to Rodriguez.
4) (as a bonus) Real's oldies in general.

Although Sergio kept them alive and Llull handed them the trophy, Tavares is everything for current Real.

[Serbian_Layup]

What is more incredible?

1) Real's path to a final being completely outplayed by Partizan after first 2 games in Madrid and the half of 5th game?
2) Llull's game winner after he hadn't done anything in the game before that shot. And how he got the ball at all instead of Rodriguez who was so good?
3) Not giving MVP to Rodriguez.
4) (as a bonus) Real's oldies in general.

Tavares deserved for everything he did in the playoffs and of course against Barca. But this game Rodriguez was a game changer for Real. He kept them afloat and also managed to hit a big shot in crunch time.

[ronmercer80]

Walkup 0/5
Sloukas 1/5
Vezenkov 2/8
Mckissic missing all 3 wide open threes in the 4th
Game over. They just needed one more. Someone had to join Canaan. And the whole 4th quarter Real was letting wide open shots for either Walkup or Mckissic. Nothing to take away from Mckissic though, I thought he was very good aside from those missed threes in the fourth.

Ok the zone defence, but Oly started with 5/8 3pts and this means that they finished with 7/28.

The big question is if all this 3pts shooting was the right choice.

[Serbian_Layup]

If Oly had just allowed a 2 pointer instead of an open 3 at +4 it would be a whole different ball game now. That's besides them not making a single simple play in the last minute. Also, the last shot could have been much better.

Agree, poor decision making, especially since the moment when they got possession on +4 when Tavares let the ball out of bounds.

[Serbian_Layup]

Ok the zone defence, but Oly started with 5/8 3pts and this means that they finished with 7/28.

The big question is if all this 3pts shooting was the right choice.

Wide open shots. What else can you do on zone defense? But yeah, there were couple of hurried shots from Sloukas and Vezenkov.

[Dreamcatcher]

Although Sergio kept them alive and Llull handed them the trophy, Tavares is everything for current Real.

Yes, Tavares is everything. But this MVP is for 2 games in F4. Rodriguez was a game changer in both games. Tavares was pretty much stopped by Fall today.

[ronmercer80]

I say cheapest because Real's defense was trash basically. A lot of good looks for Oly tonight. Most of their shots were wide open shots, those that they hit and those that they didn't. Real was just relying that they will miss, nothing else. But horrible defensive rebounding by Oly kept them close thoroughout the game. And of course, they used the chance they got.

Agree but it was the only choice in order not to be killed by fouls under the paint considering the absences. Remembering also what happened to Fener (the fifth game).

[ronmercer80]

Tonia tonight will be a very happy girl.