EL2022/23 - The Final Four (Kaunas)

[papaluk4mvp]

And Real has Tavares and….who else?
couple of old guys,Hezonia with the bright mind or Musa.
Common see the whole picture,Oly is in every aspect the better team this year,that of course doesn’t guarantee he will win today

Real has a good team and good players and I didn’t want to show disrespect,but rosterwise there is no big difference in the quality.Chacho is a great player but has grown up,Lull the same and Musa has the future in fromt of him,Let’s see what will happen

[Shawshank]

I dont remember Jasikevicius being so calm and no emotions in last 20 years in both semifinal and 3rd place game

Something bad happend inside the team.

[Toruko]

I dont remember Jasikevicius being so calm and no emotions in last 20 years in both semifinal and 3rd place game

Something bad happend inside the team.

They have been failing to win for 3 years with one of the highest budgets. He is history, this happened.

[Shawshank]

They have been failing to win for 3 years with one of the highest budgets. He is history, this happened.

I still understand how that explain most emotional european basketball person showing zero emotions and being not himself

Saras win or lose always showed more emotions than average person in last 20 years

His body language is like he doesnt care at all

[Jazz]

Point is different, coach, who plays final tomorrow, had the need to express concern about European basketball struggling. It looks to me that problem is really big.

And no, it's not the same problem in football, Europe has with Mbappe and Haaland fantastic young players. Problem is only in basketball because we're developing young players for Nba. For example, Slovenian Jan Vide scored 27 points for Real against Barca in ANGT tournament yesterday. There are only 2 options, he will be good enough for Nba with 20 years or he won't ever be anything special. No chance that he plays in Europe, if his development goes like many expect. That's why you have players like Madar getting rising star award. This award is a joke nowadays, really talented 22 years old players should be in contention for MVP.

Football, while more popular than ever, has huge problems with talent production. A majority of the so called top players now are athletes rather than footballers. Defending is also a lost art. I don't think anyone can seriously say the leading European teams are better now than ten years ago. Look at this year's Champions League semi finalists as evidence of this.

[Killer Bob]

Football, while more popular than ever, has huge problems with talent production. A majority of the so called top players now are athletes rather than footballers. Defending is also a lost art. I don't think anyone can seriously say the leading European teams are better now than ten years ago. Look at this year's Champions League semi finalists as evidence of this.

Haaland has break al time record in Premier league this year.

[Jazz]

Haaland has break al time record in Premier league this year.

The context is he's playing for the most financially doped team in Premier League history against historically bad defences. A few months ago there was a serious debate about whether City were even better without him.

[Toruko]

Could we please return to basketball?

[Killer Bob]

yeah, similarly, I cannot shake my bitterness at Real for the dirty move in 2nd game vs Partizan. What's worse, if they win, is that some future self-help guru or a commercially-biased EL historian will take Llull's move as a great example of leadership or winning mentality, or whatever, when it all looked like it was over. Hope they go home empty-handed.

PS. Regardless of that, I think Oly is the better team, has a better coach, and should win this one.

End what was his move? It wasn't even clear unsportsmanlike foul. You see that in many games. Yes, it escalated into something more serious, but nobody forced Punter and Lessort to throw the punch.

[Killer Bob]

Could we please return to basketball?

Of course. Dirty Real is still more basketball team than friendly Oly, no matter what final result will be.

[Serbian_Layup]

Walkup, Canaan, Mckissic, Papanikolaou...Oly's perimeter defense is better and if they smother Real's guards, with expectation that Tavares/Fall will neutralize each other to certain extent, I think Oly will be closer to win. Oly's shooting is far from convincing though.

[Serbian_Layup]

End what was his move? It wasn't even clear unsportsmanlike foul. You see that in many games. Yes, it escalated into something more serious, but nobody forced Punter and Lessort to throw the punch.

LOL

[papaluk4mvp]

Of course. Dirty Real is still more basketball team than friendly Oly, no matter what final result will be.

More basketball meaning;

[Killer Bob]

Walkup, Canaan, Mckissic, Papanikolaou...Oly's perimeter defense is better and if they smother Real's guards, with expectation that Tavares/Fall will neutralize each other to certain extent, I think Oly will be closer to win.

Tavares is a class better than Fall. Oly should just target Tavares in every play in Q1, if they can force him into 2 fouls it's more or less game over for Real.

[Killer Bob]

More basketball meaning;

They're ballers, while Oly players are system players.