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  • Originally posted by tonia View Post

    There is no way Partizan would lose game 3, if there was no brawl at game 2. Therefore, Real deserved to win it for playing "smart"..
    No way?
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    • The competation is losing its reputation very fast. Ater the real - partizan match up does anyone really care this organisation? The movie which we watched was real comedy. Euroleague doing everything to kill its own organisation.

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      • Originally posted by tonia View Post

        You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.
        And you tend to forget that Real played without Tavares half of the first game and whole second game. We will not see the brawl with healthy Tavares, not to mention Poirier who is also important player for blancos. And we shouldn't forget that Partizan is not some fairytale team with small budget, they are state club with big budget which came out of nowhere, I mean they are not Zalgiris. Zalgiris can't sign players like this LeDay, like Punter, Exum or Lessort, Nunnaly, Papapetrou. And who is exactly the owner of BC Partizan? Like, we know who is owner or main sponsor of Real Madrid or Maccabi or PAO or Fenerbahce, but we don't know who owns BC Partizan? Serbian goverment? If we look what Partizan were in the last lets say two decades, they always struggled with money, they couldn't keep their best players, they couldn't sign stars like Obradovic or Exum. Zalgiris is a fairy tale team this year, and that's it, every other club in the Playoffs has money, good and expensive players, they are all the same to me.

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        • Originally posted by markkanen View Post

          And you tend to forget that Real played without Tavares half of the first game and whole second game. We will not see the brawl with healthy Tavares, not to mention Poirier who is also important player for blancos. And we shouldn't forget that Partizan is not some fairytale team with small budget, they are state club with big budget which came out of nowhere, I mean they are not Zalgiris. Zalgiris can't sign players like this LeDay, like Punter, Exum or Lessort, Nunnaly, Papapetrou. And who is exactly the owner of BC Partizan? Like, we know who is owner or main sponsor of Real Madrid or Maccabi or PAO or Fenerbahce, but we don't know who owns BC Partizan? Serbian goverment? If we look what Partizan were in the last lets say two decades, they always struggled with money, they couldn't keep their best players, they couldn't sign stars like Obradovic or Exum. Zalgiris is a fairy tale team this year, and that's it, every other club in the Playoffs has money, good and expensive players, they are all the same to me.
          You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.

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          • Originally posted by tonia View Post

            You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.
            That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.
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            • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

              That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.
              Real ended 3d in RS, with 1 win less than 1st Olympiakos. I believe that Real cared a lot to win last games in order the get the highest position possible. However, you are right, the fact is that Real will play in F4. This is all that we will remember in the future, not the way it happened.

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              • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                Real ended 3d in RS, with 1 win less than 1st Olympiakos. I believe that Real cared a lot to win last games in order the get the highest position possible. However, you are right, the fact is that Real will play in F4. This is all that we will remember in the future, not the way it happened.
                They needed 2 more wins to be first. And even if they were first not much would have change. I would say that Fener is better than Partizan and you need to win both games in F4.
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                • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                  You are right, with healthy Tavares Real easily lost by Partizan in Belgrade 3 games before the end of regular season and we saw no brawl.
                  Completely unimportant game for Real, but if you think that mighty Obrad delivers miracles and that Partizan can normally beat Real with 20 point difference, then you can live in that fantasy.

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                  • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                    That game was much more important for Partizan than Real. Last games in RS are more or less formality for the best clubs. And what are we even talking about, Real will play in F4 and Partizan is 1 away game from being eliminated in 1/4 of Aba league.
                    Right, Real received 104 points just because it was an important game for Partizan...they were just generous to Partizan...not like Partizan was good or anything like that...or maybe it had to do something with the fact that Partizan had 21-5 record in the last 4 months of the season. LOL

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                    • Originally posted by markkanen View Post

                      Completely unimportant game for Real, but if you think that mighty Obrad delivers miracles and that Partizan can normally beat Real with 20 point difference, then you can live in that fantasy.
                      Partizan before that brawl normally beat Real twice in Madrid with and without Tavares, which never happened to Real in the playoffs before, as far as I remember. Was that also fantasy? Were you expecting Partizan to beat Real both games in Madrid before the series started or would you call me a fantasy dreamer if I told you so? It seems the line between fantasy and reality is much thinner than you would think.

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                      • Originally posted by markkanen View Post

                        And you tend to forget that Real played without Tavares half of the first game and whole second game. We will not see the brawl with healthy Tavares, not to mention Poirier who is also important player for blancos. And we shouldn't forget that Partizan is not some fairytale team with small budget, they are state club with big budget which came out of nowhere, I mean they are not Zalgiris. Zalgiris can't sign players like this LeDay, like Punter, Exum or Lessort, Nunnaly, Papapetrou. And who is exactly the owner of BC Partizan? Like, we know who is owner or main sponsor of Real Madrid or Maccabi or PAO or Fenerbahce, but we don't know who owns BC Partizan? Serbian goverment? If we look what Partizan were in the last lets say two decades, they always struggled with money, they couldn't keep their best players, they couldn't sign stars like Obradovic or Exum. Zalgiris is a fairy tale team this year, and that's it, every other club in the Playoffs has money, good and expensive players, they are all the same to me.
                        Here is one fun fact - Partizan scored 48 points in the first half in which Tavares played every second and then scored like 10 points less in the second half in which Tavares didn't play. So, Real was closer to win with Tavares off the floor than with him on the floor. If you are looking for excuses for Real, I think I can find a lot more for Partizan

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                        • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post

                          Right, Real received 104 points just because it was an important game for Partizan...they were just generous to Partizan...not like Partizan was good or anything like that...or maybe it had to do something with the fact that Partizan had 21-5 record in the last 4 months of the season. LOL
                          Ok. To finish this nonsense, I will congrats you for winning 3x in a row against Real. Unfortunately it weren't the right 3 games.
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                          • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                            Ok. To finish this nonsense, I will congrats you for winning 3x in a row against Real. Unfortunately it weren't the right 3 games.
                            I agree. Partizan would have to find more dirty players to be able to win against Real in the right time

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                            • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post

                              I agree. Partizan would have to find more dirty players to be able to win against Real in the right time
                              Not exactly the truth, you had 2 dirty players too much.

                              And funny enough, you don't have enough players even to beat power house named Studentski centar at home.
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                              • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                                Not exactly the truth, you had 2 dirty players too much.

                                And funny enough, you don't have enough players even to beat power house named Studentski centar at home.
                                Yet again, you are mixing apples and oranges. Different context.

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