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  • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

    Yes I have seen Exum now crying out loud. I have to say that Obra and Punter behave much more like man should after difficult defeat. Respect.
    Unfortunately, can't say the same about Real players.

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    • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post

      Unfortunately, can't say the same about Real players.
      I have seen Llull and Punter talking pretty friendly after the match . And you should stop acting like Partizan's players are all innocent. Do you remember this?



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      • In all my years watching EuroLeague I don’t recall so much ill feeling. Three of the four playoff series have resulted in noticeable complaints on social media either about the officiating or how disciplinary decisions somehow favoured the team seen as the instigator. We also had further controversy and and a sense of injustice (perceived or otherwise) due to issues before and during the Euro Cup final.

        I’ve no idea if this feeling of discontent is also being felt by the clubs, but if it is might we see another Supro League in our lifetime?

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        • Originally posted by trey from mars View Post
          In all my years watching EuroLeague I don’t recall so much ill feeling. Three of the four playoff series have resulted in noticeable complaints on social media either about the officiating or how disciplinary decisions somehow favoured the team seen as the instigator. We also had further controversy and and a sense of injustice (perceived or otherwise) due to issues before and during the Euro Cup final.

          I’ve no idea if this feeling of discontent is also being felt by the clubs, but if it is might we see another Supro League in our lifetime?
          This is true, Maccabi also complains a lot.

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          • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post

            What exactly? Exum was benched with 4 fouls, Avramović didn't play due to injury and Madar is just a poor defender. Who was supposed to guard him? He got to the paint easily because Lessort was afraid of the contact with 4 fouls. And it's not like Rodriguez forgot to play basketball, even at 37 he was still the best playmaking guard in this series.
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            something like what Lull did in the 2nd game maybe?
            joking aside, the Rodriguez I remember recently could be slowed down by physical contact. yeah, quite limited options there, but I guess you had to try. He was getting into his spots and shooting quite comfortably.
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            • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

              I have seen Llull and Punter talking pretty friendly after the match . And you should stop acting like Partizan's players are all innocent. Do you remember this?



              The same character again.
              What the hell matter is other Partizan's game with those vs Real ? More then clearly Real used benefit due to fight. What we should discuss about ? We can discuss about court and who deserved more win. Undoubtedly, fight helped Real to win in this series.

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              • Originally posted by Nemanja95 View Post

                What the hell matter is other Partizan's game with those vs Real ? More then clearly Real used benefit due to fight. What we should discuss about ? We can discuss about court and who deserved more win. Undoubtedly, fight helped Real to win in this series.
                For sure not in game 5, where Partizan had full roster and Real didn't. And I would say that the biggest difference between game 2 , where Partizan was clearly better, and game 3 was Tavares playing, which has nothing to do with the fight. Game 4 was strange, because of everything that happened in Belgrade. That might have bigger influence that fight itself.

                Predicting what would have happened without fight is similar to predict, who would have won first 2 games, if Tavares wasn't injured. 4 of 5 games in the series were very close, only game when Real didn't have front court wasn't, I kinda doubt that would be much different without the fight. The only thing that I'm sorry is game 4, which shouldn't have been played.

                That other game matters, because Lessort basically did the same thing, which costed him the game against Real. It looks to me that he's pretty thin on nerves.

                Fight or no fight, Partizan had 3 games to qualify, Real being very crippled in game 5. They were close but not close enough to win. I would say that they have missed experience the most. Closing the series is always the most difficult.

                Real has won, but lost 2 very important players for F4, which will probably cost them dearly. So it wasn't exactly great series for them either.
                Last edited by Killer Bob; 05-11-2023, 04:32 PM.
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                • Partizan fans only crying about fight from game 2 and ignoring what happend in game 3 and game 4 and game 5 like those games didnt even happend and dont wanna see that partizan simply was outplayed by real experience in 3 diffrent game endings

                  When Punter didnt play game 3 and game 4 because of his crazy actions thats ale was deciding factor,but that Tavares playing only 20min in first 2 games was deciding factor why partizan got 2-0 lead in the first place they ignoring

                  Very objective fans

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                  • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post


                    Partizan fans only crying about fight from game 2 and ignoring what happend in game 3 and game 4 and game 5 like those games didnt even happend and dont wanna see that partizan simply was outplayed by real experience in 3 diffrent game endings

                    When Punter didnt play game 3 and game 4 because of his crazy actions thats ale was deciding factor,but that Tavares playing only 20min in first 2 games was deciding factor why partizan got 2-0 lead in the first place they ignoring

                    Very objective fans
                    I think it is easy to understand that it has different impact for the team to lose a player from injury compared to lose a player due to this kind of incidents that happened in game 2, which could and definitely should have been avoided, when Partizan was already 0-2 ahead. Real managed to make Partizan lose their concentration and this is how they outplayed Partizan.

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                    • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                      I think it is easy to understand that it has different impact for the team to lose a player from injury compared to lose a player due to this kind of incidents that happened in game 2, which could and definitely should have been avoided, when Partizan was already 0-2 ahead. Real managed to make Partizan lose their concentration and this is how they outplayed Partizan.
                      They still have to beat Partizan 3 times in a row, 2 away games and last at home without 2 very important players.
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                      • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                        They still have to beat Partizan 3 times in a row, 2 away games and last at home without 2 very important players.
                        You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.

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                        • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                          You tend to forget that after game 2, all Partizan needed to get the ticket to F4 was to win game 3. Losing the momentum and their concentration at game 3 was crucial.
                          Listening to you, I almost believe that they didn't even play last 3 games and winner of the series was announced immediately after the brawl.
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                          • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                            Listening to you, I almost believe that they didn't even play last 3 games and winner of the series was announced immediately after the brawl.
                            Real deservedly won the last 2 games, which would not need to be played if there was no brawl

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                            • Originally posted by tonia View Post

                              Real deservedly won the last 2 games, which would not need to be played if there was no brawl
                              And game 3 was won undeservedly?
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                              • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                                And game 3 was won undeservedly?
                                There is no way Partizan would lose game 3, if there was no brawl at game 2. Therefore, Real deserved to win it for playing "smart"..

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