European Competitions 2023/24 - Signings & Rumours

[ronmercer80]

Gerson, the coach who was eliminated by zalgiris loosing the chance to play home f4 with the roster he had!! because we have two way to consider gerson career: the fact zalgiris scored one ft or dont. not mentioning sharp miracle. what a mediocre coach!

Yes, absolutely. We can discuss Ataman but there's no comparison, he is a far better coach, much more versatile.

I hope that rumours about Francisco (Peristeri) and Maccabi aren't true, an undersized pg that has nothing to do with the El level.

[saras]

The offer from PANATHINAIKOS to punter is 2,5M/year. We already have vildoza, i prefer him regarded as sg and not our main PG. we need a pass first pg, thats why we have made the offer to campazzo.
on the other hand from what we hear the last couple of days, the alternative is mike james, definetely not a pass first pg, maybe the exact opposite. of course there are not many pure point guards if not getting campazzo, thompson is one of them but he is headed to italy and i would not risk with him, he hasnt proved anything on the higher level yet. So my alternative would be getting also calathes if we get james.

James,calathes,vildoza,punter would be a good backcourt. plus moraitis for greek league, plus one more between guards and forwards. thomas if ataman wants a run and gun team or elijah bryant if he wants someone to bring more balance to the team between offense and defence with a guy that would accept being the man to do the dirty job.

then we have the forwards, i think hezonja will come back,his agent made a '' strange '' post yesterday on social media, with the croatian in green. 2 days after winning euroleague and making these kind of posts means that there's fire. the team wants him. i think he fits better as a PF. and can make room for both mantzoukas (as a PF) and papapetrou (as a SF).


So my roster would be built like this, considering the fact we must have at least 6 greeks in greek league, so having many foreigners above the number 6 would not be good for the chemistry of a team, that will by 80% be new. So 7 of them is fine i think

James,calathes,moraitis
Vildoza,punter, thomas
Bryant, papapetrou
Hezonja,mantzoukas
Papagiannis,lessort,antetokunbo

[papaluk4mvp]

Naz Mitrou Long->to Zalgiris via Urbonas

[paspalj]

Jesus christ please no more James and Calathes

[Levenspiel]

thanks a lot for the scouting report,really helpful !

I think he's considered a replacement for Tariq Black. in which case, that might be an improvement.

There was talk of getting him to Efes mid-season, but Ataman gambled on Singleton instead. We might have made the POs with Jones, as what he brings we badly lacked: athletism.

To be frank, I did not watch him a lot, but the scouts were split on him. Some really liked him, some thought he was not good enough for Turkish EL teams. Considering what Oly made out of Fall, McKissic etc, you might be optimistic, though, if the deal happens.

[ronmercer80]

no more James and Calathes

Agree 200% but I really hope that Monaco manages to get rid of the first one and his very high unjustified salary (2,6 millions/season).

[MikeMaccabiFan]

Yes, absolutely. We can discuss Ataman but there's no comparison, he is a far better coach, much more versatile.

Clown lives in alternate reality, in which Gershon didn't reach F4 in 2004.... Pathetic. Yes, he owes his Maccabi career to Sharp and Shelef, but after Zalgiris miracle Maccabi gave excellent F4, and next year thoroughly dominated EL.

And I disagree that Ataman is better. Ataman is good coach, but by any objective parameter he is much worse than Gershon. Ataman has negative balance in EL, FFS.
Pini, unfortunately, because of his character, didn't last long, and didn't came to Maccabi (also because of his character) when he was younger. He was brilliant game manager, not as good in scouting, but he had Blatt with him. Surely, there are few coaches who are better than Gershon (Zelico, Pasqual, Laso, Itoudis, Messina), but Ataman does not belong to that list. And while this season partially was bad because of injuries, but it wasn't anything to write home about from coach's perspective as well.

[dunks_and_steals]

Rolands Smits extends with Zalgiris till 2025-2026. Win for the greens. Smits would have been great fit for Monaco next year, but no buyout option for next season.

[Obina]

Vildoza is a decent player but not worth more than 800k.

He is attractive and very strong weapon in offence when he is on fire but also he is kind of lazy player and often struggling with motivation (especially if he is in troubles with women ).

I will not cry for him if he leaves. Faku is a different story but unfortunately he wants to play in Madrid.

About Zvezda, there are strong rumors about Kalinić and Polonara.

[tonia]

Bolomboy was seen buying boxes for moving. So, he is either moving to a different house or team..

[Jazz]

There is now talk of Barca reducing their budget by around 20-25%

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1508409/barcelona-reportedly-to-cut-budget-for-basketball-section/

The bulk of this saving should be produced through a reduction in the wage bill, which this season has been around 38 million euros. It will not be easy for the basketball section to carry out this important cut because this June 30 only four of the 16 first-team contracts expire, those of the player’s Kyle Kuric, Sertac Sanli, and Mike Tobey and the coach Sarunas Jasikevicius.

[MikeMaccabiFan]

There is now talk of Barca reducing their budget by around 20-25%

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1508409/barcelona-reportedly-to-cut-budget-for-basketball-section/

It is, reportedly, not only lack of success (however, before Saras, Barcelona didn't reach F4 much...), it's troubles of big football brothers catching up with basketball team. After all, most of the money comes from there.

[Jazz]

It is, reportedly, not only lack of success (however, before Saras, Barcelona didn't reach F4 much...), it's troubles of big football brothers catching up with basketball team. After all, most of the money comes from there.

This is a good point. And also helped them win their first ACB title since 2014.

[Toruko]

We have to see everything in relation. You cant spent over 40 millions every season and deliver just 3 F4 entrances. Its like giving you an apple for 100 Euros and you think its worth because you had never seen an apple before. Saras has build vulnerable rosters again and again. Additionally, he didnt cut a fine figure in the do or die games. I cant count him successful so I cant count ZOC successful with FB even if I must say ZOC made a far better job in Turkey.

[Jazz]

We have to see everything in relation. You cant spent over 40 millions every season and deliver just 3 F4 entrances. Its like giving you an apple for 100 Euros and you think its worth because you had never seen an apple before. Saras has build vulnerable rosters again and again. Additionally, he didnt cut a fine figure in the do or die games. I cant count him successful so I cant count ZOC successful with FB even if I must say ZOC made a far better job in Turkey.

How would you rebuild Barca's roster to meet their budget cuts and which coach would you hire?