Having a new roster means nothing. Efes had a new roster and went straight to final from 17th. Monaco reached the playoffs and was robbed from loserbiakos last year etc. The difference is that they dont have crowd, we even have that. Only reaching the playoff is not something to mention for a giant club like ours. even f4 is not a success unless we win it. Ending up 2nd or reaching the playoffs is ok for minor clubs like loserbiakos or zalgiris
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Originally posted by paspalj View Post
This quote tells everything one needs to know about your understanding of basketball. In all honesty I hope you’re right and I’m wrong though.Sasa Pukl for MVP
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Originally posted by Levenspiel View PostThe only issue is that it may take a significant time to build a team out of this completely new roster. The F4 is too ambitious as a real target IMHO (even though I'm sure Ataman is already talking about the title). Reaching the PO stage is not that easy either.
As you mentioned there are at least 8 other solid, established teams (with Oly), and I respectfully rank PAO somewhere between 7th to 9th here (same as Efes). We'll see, it will be a very interesting season.Sasa Pukl for MVP
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Originally posted by saras View PostHaving a new roster means nothing. Efes had a new roster and went straight to final from 17th. Monaco reached the playoffs and was robbed from loserbiakos last year etc. The difference is that they dont have crowd, we even have that. Only reaching the playoff is not something to mention for a giant club like ours. even f4 is not a success unless we win it. Ending up 2nd or reaching the playoffs is ok for minor clubs like loserbiakos or zalgiris
Obviously, PAO wants to get back to the titles, and the crowd is indeed a big factor, but this roster, IMHO, is not that convincing even for F4, especially right away.
hey, I've been terribly wrong many times.
PS. I really like Maccabi by the way, since last season, and they're a bigger favorite for getting back to their glory days5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.
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Originally posted by saras View Post
i dont have to prove my basketball knowledge to people like you dude. after all, the only thing you do is just critisize others, while you bring no arguments on the table. i mentioned teams, that proved that having a new roster means nothing. what did you do? nothing. as always.
You mentioned a *team* (not plural) that had success and then mentioned another team that *should* have made it if not olympiakos blah blah, some story you made up. So your “argument” is a statistical anomaly on all counts. But actually, this is also telling about the evidence that you need to consider something as a “proof”.3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019
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Originally posted by Jazz View Post
Toruko will surely know the truth.
Greek media reported that someone had parked a bit too close to his driveway and even though the guy apologized, Itoudis went completely off the rails on him. We need the Turkish reports!3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019
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Originally posted by paspalj View Post
Toruko is Itoudis’ neighbor confirmed
Greek media reported that someone had parked a bit too close to his driveway and even though the guy apologized, Itoudis went completely off the rails on him. We need the Turkish reports!
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Originally posted by saras View PostHaving a new roster means nothing. Efes had a new roster and went straight to final from 17th. Monaco reached the playoffs and was robbed from loserbiakos last year etc. The difference is that they dont have crowd, we even have that. Only reaching the playoff is not something to mention for a giant club like ours. even f4 is not a success unless we win it. Ending up 2nd or reaching the playoffs is ok for minor clubs like loserbiakos or zalgiris
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Originally posted by Toruko View Post
It is reported just as you said. According to the accuser Itoudis also insulted the Turkish culture and the way of living. It must have been a hard day for him.
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Originally posted by tonia View Post
It fits "perfectly" to use here the greek phrase for describing someone being furious, and say that Itoudis became Turk
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Originally posted by Toruko View Post
A Greek girl from my university time told me once that her grandma said the Turks will come and get her if she is not well-behaved. lol
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