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  • Originally posted by zubitos View Post

    I see that this year there are no clear favorites.
    Real, Barca, Fener, Efes, Oly, Pao, Monaco, CZ, Partizan, Maccabi, Milano, Valencia have very competitive rosters and are quite close to each other.
    For me, teams that performed well and kept most of their staff intact are favorites. If I had to hazard a guess, F4 favorites would be Real, Oly, Partizan, Fener.

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    • Mirotic just annonunced he isn't joining Partizan because of threats he recieved. For me this is just nonsense but whatever. I don't see him at Pao either then. Monaco closed the roster, Oly brought Sikma so Milano only left...???
      Last edited by Edgar; 07-22-2023, 12:01 PM.

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      • Mirotic is not coming to Partizan. He wrote on Instagram. It was clear that he had a deal with Partizan but those rumors about threats were true. He confirmed it and doesn't want to play in that kind of atmosphere, which is understandable.

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        • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

          For me, teams that performed well and kept most of their staff intact are favorites. If I had to hazard a guess, F4 favorites would be Real, Oly, Partizan, Fener.
          FB with this backcourt? XD even PAOs F4 entrance would be more probable.

          Real is the only team we can count on and I understand the hype around Partizan but its way too early for Oly.

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          • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

            Although I don’t like Calathes I agree that unless Fener has money to burn, it would be ok to keep him as a back up PG

            Lol at Bob though. Just mentioning the name summoned him. He will not rest until Calathes bamboozles the last team and rides off to the sunset.
            Calathes is becoming pretty successful western robber. Comes, collects money and rides away. I wonder who is the next victim? Maybe Pao?
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            • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

              Calathes is becoming pretty successful western robber. Comes, collects money and rides away. I wonder who is the next victim? Maybe Pao?
              Its the last station for him and I dont agree with the wording "robber". He never forced a team to give him millions. Its his right to demand the money of his contract. They all gave him millions voluntarily.

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              • Originally posted by Serbian_Layup View Post
                Mirotic is not coming to Partizan. He wrote on Instagram. It was clear that he had a deal with Partizan but those rumors about threats were true. He confirmed it and doesn't want to play in that kind of atmosphere, which is understandable.
                So I guess this means that he won't come to Greece either. He showed a weakness and now greek fans can easily exploit it

                Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                FB with this backcourt? XD even PAOs F4 entrance would be more probable.

                Real is the only team we can count on and I understand the hype around Partizan but its way too early for Oly.
                Nah, I disagree. Fener has a very strong front court and upgraded from Calathes. In addition you have the same coach that was one shot away from the F4. Obviously it's too early, I have no idea what will happen but if I were to give *an* opinion, I stand by what I said. Chemistry is very underrated imo.

                Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                Calathes is becoming pretty successful western robber. Comes, collects money and rides away. I wonder who is the next victim? Maybe Pao?
                Shhhhhh
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                • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                  Its the last station for him and I dont agree with the wording "robber". He never forced a team to give him millions. Its his right to demand the money of his contract. They all gave him millions voluntarily.
                  Yes, teams overpay players, but do you remember the situation, where player got buyout 2x in a row?
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                  • Nah, I disagree. Fener has a very strong front court and upgraded from Calathes. In addition you have the same coach that was one shot away from the F4. Obviously it's too early, I have no idea what will happen but if I were to give *an* opinion, I stand by what I said. Chemistry is very underrated imo.
                    Soft ass Sanli, sleeping pill Papagiannis and short Mobley is at most an average center rotation. The 2-3-4 positions look ok but 1 and 5 are disappointments tbh. Is Raul Neto really an upgrade to Calathes? I really doubt that and this Israeli guy as a backup for F4 ambitions could just be a bad joke.

                    There is not a single star level player.

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                    • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                      Soft ass Sanli, sleeping pill Papagiannis and short Mobley is at most an average center rotation. The 2-3-4 positions look ok but 1 and 5 are disappointments tbh. Is Raul Neto really an upgrade to Calathes? I really doubt that and this Israeli guy as a backup for F4 ambitions could just be a bad joke.

                      There is not a single star level player.
                      You're being unnecessarily harsh with your players. I mean, obviously I don't have a crystal ball but I think Fener has a very decent team and a very good coach. I think they will comfortably get to the playoffs and from there we'll have to see what the situation is and if they'll manage to get over that hump.
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                      • Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post

                        Yes, teams overpay players, but do you remember the situation, where player got buyout 2x in a row?
                        Calathes was solid most of the season and it makes no sense to pay him his full contract to leave rather than to keep him as a backup.
                        This is all on Itoudis. He knew exactly the player he was signing a year ago. And like Toruko wrote, it's not like their new PGs are massive upgrades.​

                        Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                        Soft ass Sanli, sleeping pill Papagiannis and short Mobley is at most an average center rotation. The 2-3-4 positions look ok but 1 and 5 are disappointments tbh. Is Raul Neto really an upgrade to Calathes? I really doubt that and this Israeli guy as a backup for F4 ambitions could just be a bad joke.

                        There is not a single star level player.
                        It must make Fener fans yearn for the days of Preldzic and Savas.

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                        • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                          So I guess this means that he won't come to Greece either. He showed a weakness and now greek fans can easily exploit it
                          Sloukas being safe and sound so far, is the best proof that he has nothing to worry about in Greece

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                          • But seriously where can Mirotic go? Milano signed Poythress, Kamagate, re-signed Hines, Voigtmann and Melli are staying. There is no place for him there. Olympiacos signed Sikma and said they are done with Mirotic. Monaco re-signed Motiejunas, signed Jaiteh, Hall and J.Brown re-signed and they brought Cornelie. Same like Milano, I don't see him there. Panathinaikos has space and needs starting PF...He said he doesn't want to be in the toxic enviroment with the fans so Greece maybe not his most desirable destination but honestly I don't believe in his reasons about some threats for not joining Partizan so anything can happen. And I don't see absolutely any other team that want and will sign him. Maybe Bayern will for once splash some cash? I've no idea...

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                            • Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                              But seriously where can Mirotic go? Milano signed Poythress, Kamagate, re-signed Hines, Voigtmann and Melli are staying. There is no place for him there. Olympiacos signed Sikma and said they are done with Mirotic. Monaco re-signed Motiejunas, signed Jaiteh, Hall and J.Brown re-signed and they brought Cornelie. Same like Milano, I don't see him there. Panathinaikos has space and needs starting PF...He said he doesn't want to be in the toxic enviroment with the fans so Greece maybe not his most desirable destination but honestly I don't believe in his reasons about some threats for not joining Partizan so anything can happen. And I don't see absolutely any other team that want and will sign him. Maybe Bayern will for once splash some cash? I've no idea...
                              I don't know man, this has taken a bit too long imo. Also, if the announcement by Partizan is true then I dislike him as a character and I wouldn't prefer him over Toko for Pao.
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                              • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                                I don't know man, this has taken a bit too long imo. Also, if the announcement by Partizan is true then I dislike him as a character and I wouldn't prefer him over Toko for Pao.
                                Yup, same. Shengelia every day before Mirotic. Their annoncement in other words say he didn't come to Partizan because of better offer somewhere else.

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